Since: Sep 08

Abingdon, VA

#87 Jan 15, 2009
Agent Cranberry wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, you're lower than me, so what does that make you, sourpuss? Read your own post. You made the statement about that, not me. I just drew your attention to your gaffe.
what are you refering to sfb

“I hate stupidity.”

Since: Apr 08

Corbin, Ky

#88 Jan 15, 2009
Here is your post, NOTE WHERE IT SAYS: My wife and my income is below the Johnson City Tn average"

An unfortunate choice of words on your part.

Agent Cranberry I'm not drawing food stamps. My wife and my annual income is well below the Johnson City Tn average family income. I don't even have a laptop computer! I could go buy one I suppose, but I need the money for more important things like my mortgage payment, food and electric bills. Hey wait a minute...I may qualify for that 10 bucks a month...hum, in 5 or 6 years I could buy a laptop with the money I would save on groceries! No, I can't do that, there are people in much more need of that money than me including those kids you hide behind.
cem12

Johnson City, TN

#89 Jan 15, 2009
Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
I am a pretty decent Joe and by your standards i would never have been born. We who grew up on a farm worked at an early age to grow and raise what we ate.
You who remember the rugged individual type probably are out right lieing. Today people are not tied to the land. YOu new comers have bought the land and build your homes on it.
IN 1960 my brother bought a three bedroom brick home on a good sized lot for $19,000.00 and his payments were ninety one dollars a month. Today young people with simliar circumstances will never be able to afford to buy a home. There is no rental property aviable in Johnson County at a rate people can afford. You fine people mock and make fun of young folks who live in the pitiful public housing provided for low income people.
You have no shame , no respect for our cultural , no standards except your own. I dont like most of you and am glad i dont call you friend. All you want to do is look down your nose at people and strut around like a banty rooster. You aint nothing worth bragging about brother.
By the way, there are some of us around that you don't have to feel unfriendly toward. I never sold those newcomers any land, Bill.
There are those who would rather go through hardship.
Example, I have family members here and out of state who don't feel real friendly to those who did sell out their land, and then expect to hunt and fish and traipse all over the land that the owners have sacrificed to pay taxes on and keep. Oh, and the traipsing and all-but-camping-out happens AFTER they park the fancy trucks or SUVs on their property before the crack of dawn.

“I hate stupidity.”

Since: Apr 08

Corbin, Ky

#90 Jan 15, 2009
All my posts to you MSGT, have been intended to show you that there is no difference in you choosing to buy what is important to you, and my buying what is important to me. For quite a few years now, it has been cheaper to rent than to have to meet the mortgage, insurance and utility bills associated with owning a home. I saw this early on and made the decision to not become a home owner. The present day circumstances prove that I was right in that decision. If my opinions or what I do offends you then you are just incapable of understanding what I am saying or doing. The same options are open to you. If you choose not to use them, then that is your problem, not mine. Continue with your much higher cost of living if that is what you want.
cem12

Johnson City, TN

#91 Jan 15, 2009
P.S. I am glad A.C. accepts the $10.00 stamps available to him. He has the heart to turn right around and send more than that to the children's fund, so in my mind he's just donating for those stingy people who never tithe or donate to charities.
Somebody said we should stop the madness. I don't think food stamps are madness, but is self-reliance a thing of the past?

“I hate stupidity.”

Since: Apr 08

Corbin, Ky

#92 Jan 15, 2009
cem12 wrote:
P.S. I am glad A.C. accepts the $10.00 stamps available to him. He has the heart to turn right around and send more than that to the children's fund, so in my mind he's just donating for those stingy people who never tithe or donate to charities.
Somebody said we should stop the madness. I don't think food stamps are madness, but is self-reliance a thing of the past?
I pledged and started paying that $365.00 per year before I even became eligible for foodstamps. I don't feel the least bit guilty for accepting and using them.
Really tired

Johnson City, TN

#93 Jan 15, 2009
cem12 wrote:
P.S. I am glad A.C. accepts the $10.00 stamps available to him. He has the heart to turn right around and send more than that to the children's fund, so in my mind he's just donating for those stingy people who never tithe or donate to charities.
Somebody said we should stop the madness. I don't think food stamps are madness, but is self-reliance a thing of the past?
I am so tired of seeing this thread, No one is making any sense, if you know someone abusing the system report them, don't get on here and complain, do something about it. There is a reason why there is a Food Stamp program. Just take a look at Americas economy today. There is people who abuse it and there is people who need it and don't abuse, so try getting on the level of those in need.

Since: Sep 08

Abingdon, VA

#94 Jan 15, 2009
Agent Cranberry wrote:
Here is your post, NOTE WHERE IT SAYS: My wife and my income is below the Johnson City Tn average"
An unfortunate choice of words on your part.
Agent Cranberry I'm not drawing food stamps. My wife and my annual income is well below the Johnson City Tn average family income. I don't even have a laptop computer! I could go buy one I suppose, but I need the money for more important things like my mortgage payment, food and electric bills. Hey wait a minute...I may qualify for that 10 bucks a month...hum, in 5 or 6 years I could buy a laptop with the money I would save on groceries! No, I can't do that, there are people in much more need of that money than me including those kids you hide behind.
I was being sarcastic about buying the laptop with food stamp dollars. Grow up

Since: Sep 08

Abingdon, VA

#95 Jan 15, 2009
Really tired wrote:
<quoted text>I am so tired of seeing this thread, No one is making any sense, if you know someone abusing the system report them, don't get on here and complain, do something about it. There is a reason why there is a Food Stamp program. Just take a look at Americas economy today. There is people who abuse it and there is people who need it and don't abuse, so try getting on the level of those in need.
I have reported people that I did not know so it was impossible to follow up. Social Services do not report their findings to private citizens.

If agent cranberry truly gives freely to those in more need than himself then I apoligize for being rude to him. But it infuriates me to know that someone who can afford luxuries in life would draw social assistance. It throws a slightly better light on him that he freely gives, but it still boils down to accepting tax payer help while enjoying luxuries that many of those same tax payers who receive no help can't afford. I think it would be better for agent cranberry to deduct the $120 a year he receives from social services from his chairity contributions and let social services decide where that $120 could be better spent. With that I leave AC alone.

“I hate stupidity.”

Since: Apr 08

Corbin, Ky

#96 Jan 15, 2009
RetiredMSGT wrote:
<quoted text>
I have reported people that I did not know so it was impossible to follow up. Social Services do not report their findings to private citizens.
If agent cranberry truly gives freely to those in more need than himself then I apoligize for being rude to him. But it infuriates me to know that someone who can afford luxuries in life would draw social assistance. It throws a slightly better light on him that he freely gives, but it still boils down to accepting tax payer help while enjoying luxuries that many of those same tax payers who receive no help can't afford. I think it would be better for agent cranberry to deduct the $120 a year he receives from social services from his chairity contributions and let social services decide where that $120 could be better spent. With that I leave AC alone.
I'm a taxpayer too. You don't see me ranting about how those tax dollars are spent.

Since: Sep 08

Abingdon, VA

#97 Jan 16, 2009
Agent Cranberry wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm a taxpayer too. You don't see me ranting about how those tax dollars are spent.
No, I don't, but you should. We need to take control back. When we ignore what our government is doing we invite slavery under it.

“Not Worth Arguing About”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#98 Jan 16, 2009
RetiredMSGT wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I don't, but you should. We need to take control back. When we ignore what our government is doing we invite slavery under it.
What do you think of the six-year term for our senators? Its purpose was to "insulate the senator from public opinion" so that he/she could use "elite wisdom," according to Wikipedia, etc. Do you think it insulates the senator too well?

Since: Sep 08

Abingdon, VA

#99 Jan 16, 2009
elle1 wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you think of the six-year term for our senators? Its purpose was to "insulate the senator from public opinion" so that he/she could use "elite wisdom," according to Wikipedia, etc. Do you think it insulates the senator too well?
You propose a difficult question to answer. First off, if the senator is of high moral character who has the priorities of the people in mind instead of his or her own agenda then I don't believe it would matter if it's a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6 year term. I do believe that there should be term limits though. Elections should be held at regular intervals in order for the people to publically provide a senators report card for his term through the voting process.

The insulation factor you talk about is not so much in the senators hands as it is our hands. I believe all of us are guilty of laziness when it comes to checking up on what our elected representatives are doing. Some of us are better at it than others, some of us have more avenues to make those checks through the internet and through other media outlets. I must admit that I haven't done all I could do to make these checks. When all is going right in our world a lot of us, including me, tend to ignore many clear warning signs. It often takes a great awakening as with the finanical crisis we are currently suffering. The media tends to wake us up but we need to do our own research because you can't always depend on the media to tell you everything, nor the complete truth.

It's not easy to keep tabs on our government and our elected officials, but then again freedom has never been easy has it? I don't think Americans are lazy, they just need a wake up call once in awhile. I think we can all hear the ringing now and I believe we are going to see a lot of officials squirming in their seats.

“I hate stupidity.”

Since: Apr 08

Corbin, Ky

#100 Jan 16, 2009
RetiredMSGT wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I don't, but you should. We need to take control back. When we ignore what our government is doing we invite slavery under it.
One more thing, sarge, and then I will leave you alone also. Are you one of those people who believe that the Social Security program is also a welfare program? If so, do you plan to refuse it when you become eligible? That is, if you're not already receiving it. That would mean that you are accepting a government assistance check by the standards you employ. You are drawing your military retirement, and surviving on it, so why do you need SS too?

“I hate stupidity.”

Since: Apr 08

Corbin, Ky

#101 Jan 16, 2009
I'm curious about something else too, Retired Msgt. Are you the retired Master Sergeant who bought the old truck stop on 421 and ran it for several years? If so, then this isn't the first time you and I have exchanged words.
murty

Jonesborough, TN

#102 Jan 16, 2009
Food stamps should be for people who need them.
I know of people who sell them for half price.
I wish we could get just one mo. of food stamps.

Since: Sep 08

Abingdon, VA

#103 Jan 16, 2009
Agent Cranberry wrote:
I'm curious about something else too, Retired Msgt. Are you the retired Master Sergeant who bought the old truck stop on 421 and ran it for several years? If so, then this isn't the first time you and I have exchanged words.
No
pug

Burlington, CT

#104 Jan 16, 2009
nope.
Mr fair wrote:
<quoted text>Dont be so quick to judge!! Were you not raised on the system?
Bill

United States

#105 Jan 16, 2009
murty wrote:
Food stamps should be for people who need them.
I know of people who sell them for half price.
I wish we could get just one mo. of food stamps.
Bull Turds you can't sell them any more you have a debit card dumkoff. Liar liar your pants are on fire.
mr fair

Elizabethton, TN

#106 Jan 16, 2009
pug wrote:
nope.<quoted text>
Liar!!

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