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Hiram Abif

Georgetown, KY

#1 Sep 13, 2006
I'm telling all, go to this site...on the left-hand side, click on "rituals".....Here goes:

WWW.EPHESIANS5-11.ORG

Now their are no more "SECRETS"
LOL

AOL

#3 Sep 16, 2006
Hiram Abif wrote:
I'm telling all, go to this site...on the left-hand side, click on "rituals".....Here goes:
WWW.EPHESIANS5-11.ORG
Now their are no more "SECRETS"
That website left one out...they must sleep with a man at least once to join.
Ben

Raeford, NC

#5 Sep 24, 2006
Question: "What is Free Masonry and what do Free Masons believe?"

Answer: Free Masonry, Eastern Star, and other similar "secret" organizations appear to be harmless fellowship gatherings. Many of them even promote belief in God and good character. However, beneath this outward appearance, these secret societies hide anti-Biblical and anti-Christian beliefs and practices.
Ben

Raeford, NC

#6 Sep 24, 2006
Salvation from Sin:

The Bible’s View: Jesus became the sinner’s sacrifice before God when He shed His blood and died as the propitiation (payment) for the sins of the whole world (Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 5:8, John 3:16).

Mason’s View: The very process of joining the Lodge requires Christians to deny everything Christ accomplished on their behalf. A person will be saved and go to heaven as a result of his good works and personal self-improvement.
Ben

Raeford, NC

#7 Sep 24, 2006
The Doctrine of God:

The Bible’s View: There is one God. The various names of God refer to the God of Israel and reveal certain attributes of God. To worship other Gods or to call upon other deities is idolatry (Exodus 20:3). Paul spoke of idolatry as a heinous sin (1 Corinthians 10:14) and John said that idolaters will perish in hell (Revelation 21:8).

Mason’s View: All members must believe in a deity. Different religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam, etc.) acknowledge the same God, only call Him different names. Freemasonry invites people of all faiths, even if they use different names for the ‘Nameless One of a hundred names,’ they are yet praying to the one God and Father of all.
Ben

Raeford, NC

#8 Sep 24, 2006
The View of the Bible:

The Bible’s View: The supernatural and plenary inspiration of the Scriptures—that they are inerrant and that their teachings and authority are absolute, supreme, and final. The Bible is the Word of God (2 Timothy 3:16, 1 Thessalonians 2:13).

Mason’s View: The Bible is an important book. It is not the exclusive Word of God, nor is it God’s sole revelation of himself to humankind, but only one important book among many religious sourcebooks. It is a good guide for morality. The Bible is used primarily as a symbol of God’s will, which can also be captured in other sacred texts, like the Koran.
Ben

Raeford, NC

#9 Sep 24, 2006
The Doctrine of Jesus and the Trinity:

The Bible’s View: Jesus was God in human form (Matthew 1:18-24, John 1:1). Jesus is the second person of the trinity (Matthew 28:19, Mark 1:9-11). While on earth, He was fully human (Mark 4:38, Matthew 4:2) and fully divine (John 20:28, John 1:1-2, Acts 4:10-12). Christians should pray in Jesus’ name and proclaim Him before others, regardless of offense to non-Christians (John 14:13-14, 1 John 2:23, Acts 4:18-20).

Mason’s View: There is no trinity, therefore there is no doctrine of the deity of Jesus Christ. A mason cannot invoke the name of Jesus when praying, or mention His name in the Lodge. Suggesting that Jesus is the only way to God contradicts the principle of toleration. The name of Jesus has been omitted from many biblical verses that are used in Masonic writings. Jesus is on the same level as other religious leaders.
Ben

Raeford, NC

#10 Sep 24, 2006
Human Nature and Sin:

The Bible’s View: All humans are born with a sinful nature, are totally depraved, and need a Savior from sin (Romans 3:23, Romans 5:12, Psalm 51:5, Ephesians 2:1). The Bible denies that humanity, since the Fall, has within itself the capacity for moral perfection (1 John 1:8-10, Romans 1:18-25).

Mason’s View: Through symbols and emblems, Masons teach that man is not sinful, just “rude and imperfect by nature”. Human beings are able to improve their character and behavior in various ways, including acts of charity, moral living, and voluntary performance of civic duty. Humanity possesses the capability of moving from imperfection toward total perfection. Moral and spiritual perfection lies within men and women
Ben

Raeford, NC

#11 Sep 24, 2006
When a Christian takes the oath of Freemasonry, he is swearing on the following doctrines that God has pronounced false and sinful:

1. That salvation can be gained by man’s good works.

2. To accept and promote that Jesus is just one of many equally revered prophets.

3. Masonry makes Christian men swear that they will remain silent in the Lodge and not talk of Christ.

4. Masonry makes Christians swear that they are approaching the Lodge in spiritual darkness and ignorance, when the Bible says Christians are already in the light, children of the light, and are indwelt by the Light of the World—Jesus Christ.

5. By demanding that Christians take the Masonic oath, Masonry leads Christians into blasphemy and taking the name of the Lord in vain.

6. Masonry makes Christians falsely swear that the G.A.O.T.U.[Great Architect of the Universe], whom Masonry believes is the true God of the universe, is present in all other religions.

7. Masonry makes Christians falsely swear to the teaching that true worship can be offered in the Lodge to God without the mediatorship of Jesus.

8. By swearing the Masonic oath and participating in the doctrines of the Lodge, Christians are perpetuating a false gospel to other Lodge members, who look only to Masonry’s plan of salvation to get to heaven.

9. By taking the Masonic obligation, he is agreeing to allow the pollution of his mind, spirit, and body by those who serve false gods and believe false doctrines.



As you can see, Masonry denies and contradicts the clear teaching of Scripture and numerous issues. Masonry also requires people to engage in activities which the Bible condemns. As a result, a Christian should not be a member of any secret society or organization that has any connection with Free Masonry.
Sponge

Raeford, NC

#12 Sep 24, 2006
Hiram Abif wrote:
Actually, they do (almost) the inductee, while blind folded must feel down the front of everyone pants to make sure "all male bodies are present" if he feels someone who is a little to excited, he must "service" this gentleman orally in the presence of other "brothers."
During the final (master mason) degree in the blue lodge, a large female goat is escorted to the alter, and the final initiation process concists of having sex with this goat.
My husband is a mason. I remember him going to a meeting one time and he has never been the same since. Now I understand why he is so fond of goats.
I just feel so sorry for the goat......UMMMMMMMMM Are you sure about this?
Susan

Raeford, NC

#13 Sep 24, 2006
Hiram Abif wrote:
Actually, they do (almost) the inductee, while blind folded must feel down the front of everyone pants to make sure "all male bodies are present" if he feels someone who is a little to excited, he must "service" this gentleman orally in the presence of other "brothers."
During the final (master mason) degree in the blue lodge, a large female goat is escorted to the alter, and the final initiation process concists of having sex with this goat.
You know, I have been researching freemasons for several years, and I refused to accept this as truth until I found out it is true, with the exception some Blue Lodges use a Camel instead of a Goat. It is a sick world organization. Very sick!
Susan

Stokes, NC

#16 Sep 28, 2006
Believer wrote:
It's true Susan...a female goat is brought in before the alter, stimulation of the canidates "reproductive gland" is performed until it becomes stiff enough to fit inside the goat, then the canidate is required to "spill his sacred fluid" into the sacrificial chosen animal of Tubalcain (the masonic god).
After the "fluid letting" the canidate is stood up, places one hand on the holy bible and takes another "oath" promising lifelong secrecy to the aforementioned ceremony.
I am terribly ashamed to admit to this ritual, but as age marches on, I feel the need to tell a few of the rituals involved with this "secret organization" which is NOT very secret at all!
Take care and if your husband/boyfriend becomes a master mason (third degree)...smell his private parts when he returns home from his THIRD DEGREE ceremony.
How can this be true? How can my husband claim to be a fine Christian and be involved in activity like this? Of course there are other people in our church active in the same organization. Some of them teach Sunday School. Who do your leaders say Jesus is?
Amused

Coopersville, MI

#17 Sep 28, 2006
Wow. You people are dumbasses. I'm not a Mason but I've read quite a bit on them. If they are Satanic, you had better kiss the ground they walk on. 1/5 of the founding fathers were officially Freemasons, and many more probably were as well. They created the foundation for the country that is the envy of the world. If they were satanic, logic dictates that this country would have fallen into anarchy soon after its founding. They had the good sense to understand the secular and the religious both should play apart in this country. Granted, all Masons were not angels, but they never caused the atrocities like those committed in the name of Christianity. The Dark Ages, the destruction of the Great Library in Alexandria, the Crusades in Jerusalem, the Albegensian crusades in France, the Salem Witch Trials, the Indian Conversions in the America's were all genocidial acts comitted by psychotics, who perpetrated these acts in the name of God. The bible has been edited coutless times in 2000 years. Just because it says something in the Bible doesn't mean it comes from God. As far as I can tell Masons have been maligned by ignorance and religios fanatics. Anyone is able to join, that is a fact, you only need to have a belief in God.
Mason in East TN

Vero Beach, FL

#18 Sep 28, 2006
Amused wrote:
Wow. You people are dumbasses. I'm not a Mason but I've read quite a bit on them. If they are Satanic, you had better kiss the ground they walk on. 1/5 of the founding fathers were officially Freemasons, and many more probably were as well. They created the foundation for the country that is the envy of the world. If they were satanic, logic dictates that this country would have fallen into anarchy soon after its founding. They had the good sense to understand the secular and the religious both should play apart in this country. Granted, all Masons were not angels, but they never caused the atrocities like those committed in the name of Christianity. The Dark Ages, the destruction of the Great Library in Alexandria, the Crusades in Jerusalem, the Albegensian crusades in France, the Salem Witch Trials, the Indian Conversions in the America's were all genocidial acts comitted by psychotics, who perpetrated these acts in the name of God. The bible has been edited coutless times in 2000 years. Just because it says something in the Bible doesn't mean it comes from God. As far as I can tell Masons have been maligned by ignorance and religios fanatics. Anyone is able to join, that is a fact, you only need to have a belief in God.
Thank You.
Albert

Bayboro, NC

#19 Oct 1, 2006




Did God create everything that exists? Does evil
exist? Did God create evil?

A University professor at a well known institution of
higher learning challenged his students with this
question. "Did God create everything that exists?" A
student bravely replied, "Yes he did!"

"God created everything?" The professor asked.

"Yes sir, he certainly did," the student replied.

The professor answered, "If God created everything;
then God created evil. And, since evil exists, and
according to the principal that our works define who
we are, then we can assume God is evil."

The student became quiet and did not answer the
professor's hypothetical definition. The professor,
quite pleased with himself, boasted to the students
that he had proven once more that the Christian faith
was a myth.

Another student raised his hand and said, "May I ask
you a question, professor?"

"Of course", replied the professor.

The student stood up and asked, "Professor, does cold
exist? Have you never been cold?" The other students
snickered at the young man's question.
The young man contined, "In fact sir, cold does not
exist. According to the laws of physics, what we
consider cold is in reality the absence of heat.
Every body or object can be studied when it
has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body
or matter have or transmit energy.
Absolute zero (-460 F) is the total absence of heat;
and all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction
at that temperature. Cold does not exist.
We have created this word to describe how we feel if
we have no heat."

The student continued, "Professor, does darkness
exist?"

The professor responded, "Of course it does."

The student replied, "Once again you are wrong sir,
darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in reality
the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness.
In fact, we can use Newton's prism to break white light into
Many colors and study the various wavelengths of each
color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can
break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How
can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure
the amount of light present. Isn't this correct?
Darkness is a term used by man to describe what
happens when there is no light present."

Finally the young man asked the professor, "Sir, does
evil exist?"

Now uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course, as
I have already said. We see it everyday. It is in the
daily examples of man's inhumanity to man. It is in
the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the
world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.

To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist,
sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil
is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness
and cold, a word that man has created to describe the
absence of God.

God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what
happens when man does not have God's love present in
his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat,
or the darkness that comes when there is no light."

The professor sat down.

The young man's name -- Albert Einstein
Amused

Allendale, MI

#20 Oct 1, 2006
Albert wrote:
Did God create everything that exists? Does evil
exist? Did God create evil?
A University professor at a well known institution of
higher learning challenged his students with this
question. "Did God create everything that exists?" A
student bravely replied, "Yes he did!"
"God created everything?" The professor asked.
"Yes sir, he certainly did," the student replied.
The professor answered, "If God created everything;
then God created evil. And, since evil exists, and
according to the principal that our works define who
we are, then we can assume God is evil."
The student became quiet and did not answer the
professor's hypothetical definition. The professor,
quite pleased with himself, boasted to the students
that he had proven once more that the Christian faith
was a myth.
Another student raised his hand and said, "May I ask
you a question, professor?"
"Of course", replied the professor.
The student stood up and asked, "Professor, does cold
exist? Have you never been cold?" The other students
snickered at the young man's question.
The young man contined, "In fact sir, cold does not
exist. According to the laws of physics, what we
consider cold is in reality the absence of heat.
Every body or object can be studied when it
has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body
or matter have or transmit energy.
Absolute zero (-460 F) is the total absence of heat;
and all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction
at that temperature. Cold does not exist.
We have created this word to describe how we feel if
we have no heat."
The student continued, "Professor, does darkness
exist?"
The professor responded, "Of course it does."
The student replied, "Once again you are wrong sir,
darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in reality
the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness.
In fact, we can use Newton's prism to break white light into
Many colors and study the various wavelengths of each
color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can
break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How
can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure
the amount of light present. Isn't this correct?
Darkness is a term used by man to describe what
happens when there is no light present."
Finally the young man asked the professor, "Sir, does
evil exist?"
Now uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course, as
I have already said. We see it everyday. It is in the
daily examples of man's inhumanity to man. It is in
the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the
world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.
To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist,
sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil
is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness
and cold, a word that man has created to describe the
absence of God.
God did not create evil. Evil is the result of what
happens when man does not have God's love present in
his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat,
or the darkness that comes when there is no light."
The professor sat down.
The young man's name -- Albert Einstein
Not sure what your point is. I was just trying to point out the ridiculousness of the previous comments posted.
Ben

Rocky Mount, NC

#21 Oct 3, 2006
Mason in East TN wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank You.
You have read quite a bit about the masons. So, as you probably are aware, Satan is their god of light. Unfortunately, as you may know, the blue lodge masons are deceived, and this is not shared with them until later if ever, when they become a 17th degree mason. It is no longer a secret as Albert Pike would have it in the 1800’s. We live in the information age, and many non masons are laughing at their silly rituals, and pass words such as BOAZ, SHIBBOLETH, TUBAL CAIN, and MAH HA BONE. Then the secret word IAOM. The word expressed similar as “EE AH OH MM.” Most anything you want to know about them is available “on your desktop”.

Some of your talking points are true and that is really shameful about the American Indians and the psychotics during the Salem Witch Trials. It is also true about The Bible being edited many times during the past 2000 years. You would also agree, there have been many other psychotics that you would know about, but didn’t mention, such as Jim Jones, and the Branch Davidians with David Koresh etc. Although none of the above represent “main stream Christianity,” you have a valid point, and you don’t have to look much to find someone as bad,“fleecing the flock,” and taking advantage of others, as you say in the name of Christianity. So sad!

Masons have a tendency to talk about how mean God of Abraham was to many people in favor of Jewish people in the Bible. They promote dual and poly gods thus are way off track from the Bible and what Jesus would have us do. Many of them are leaders in the community and churches involved in corruption and sworn oaths to protect their lodge brothers…”The bottom line is Jesus is God, and if we do not accept Him, we will be left behind during the coming rapture. Blue Lodge Masons are brain washed and discouraged from talking about Jesus. Most will be left behind to serve in the world government during the seven years of tribulation. Who will you serve during this period? Unknowingly, to most people the organization to serve the antichrist is already in place worldwide.

Agreed, The Bible has been edited and translated into thousands of languages; I accept Jesus and plan to be with Him during those seven years of Tribulation. I read several translations, some of which have been paraphrased. I refuse to accept a lot of baggage the Pharisee would have me carry. It is a personal relationship. What are your plans? Do you know Him? This is not an endorsement for any organization, just a concern for your personal relationship with Jesus.

Peace...


Arcadia

Rocky Mount, NC

#22 Oct 4, 2006
Ben wrote:
Question: "What is Free Masonry and what do Free Masons believe?"
Answer: Free Masonry, Eastern Star, and other similar "secret" organizations appear to be harmless fellowship gatherings. Many of them even promote belief in God and good character. However, beneath this outward appearance, these secret societies hide anti-Biblical and anti-Christian beliefs and practices.
http://jesus-messiah.com/html/masonry.html

http://jesus-messiah.com/html/masonry.html
dax williams

Fredericton, Canada

#23 Oct 8, 2006
Last time
People For crying out loud Look to the BIBLE
Read it!
Dont stop at the verses that your
Pastor/preacher/read read read
The bible teaches that we are God
and the church tries to hide it. Very sinple ,read the book and be free
carla

Oxford, NC

#24 Oct 8, 2006
dax williams wrote:
Last time
People For crying out loud Look to the BIBLE
Read it!
Dont stop at the verses that your
Pastor/preacher/read read read
The bible teaches that we are God
and the church tries to hide it. Very sinple ,read the book and be free
You need to follow your own advice. You probably have never read the Bible. Jesus Christ is God. It is not too late for you. Turn away from the Masonic thing and seek Jesus. Please read:http://jesus-messiah.com/ html/masonry.html or be left behind.

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