Federal arrests of indigenous people sparks alarm among activists

Mar 16, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Herald

Manuel Valdes / Associated Press Luisa Sanchez , the wife of an indigenous farm worker from Mexico, holds her 9-month-old son Ismael in her apartment in Mount Vernon on March 4. The arrest of 16 of neighbors by ...

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delaneO

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Send them all back..but stop making it so dificult for folks to obtain a green card and ...do finger print all ...dont allow those with significant criminal behavior....I am a victim of some behavior on the part of three mexican men who looked as if they had starred in The good the bad and the ugly......I missed a very bad end....by 5 minutes......Every town in the US could adopt a Mexican town....to help make changes......build that wall on the boarder...........
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I do NOT want to adopt a freaking mexican TOWN..

OMG are you stupid?

Mexico can make its own changes to its disgusting impoverished communities.

Stay home- dont come here- or you will be thrown out.

I think that's all these people need to know.

Take your problems to your own government and let them sort you out. GAH!
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Finster wrote:
I do NOT want to adopt a freaking mexican TOWN..
OMG are you stupid?
Mexico can make its own changes to its disgusting impoverished communities.
Stay home- dont come here- or you will be thrown out.
I think that's all these people need to know.
Take your problems to your own government and let them sort you out. GAH!
LOL, it is more than one Mexican town Mexico wants us to adopt all their people that come here. Well, it is obvious this is a new 'tool', claiming they are indigenous and have ties here."Indigenous peoples are the direct descendants of the inhabitants who lived in the region before colonial times. They have a distinct culture, languages and history than those of their Hispanic counterparts" Not to mention, everyone that comes is now suppose to have an interpreter for , let's see: "In Oaxaca alone -- the Mexican state where the bulk of indigenous workers in Mount Vernon have come from -- 12 different languages are spoken,­Dominguez-Santos said. Fourteen percent of Oaxacans who speak an indigenous language don't speak Spanish, according to Mexican census figures. Mexico's government recognizes 162 living languages, plus some 300 dialects." So what? If they are here illegally they need to be returned I don't care what language or dialect they speak, English or one of the 300 dialects MX recognizes. More SOB (south of the border) sob stories. SOB/sob

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Finster wrote:
I do NOT want to adopt a freaking mexican TOWN..
OMG are you stupid?
Mexico can make its own changes to its disgusting impoverished communities.
Stay home- dont come here- or you will be thrown out.
I think that's all these people need to know.
Take your problems to your own government and let them sort you out. GAH!
In the main, I agree with the 'substance' of your remarks, but not the tone.

I've often asked the question of WHY is it that Canada —our northern neighbor— isn't invading for the same reasons the Mexicans are.

And every time I keep getting the same reply: Mexico lacks opportunity for its people.

It is the GOVERNMENT of Mexico which as reduced its peoples to absolute poverty by dint of the fact that 10% of the people own 90% of the land.

That is a condition which has persisted since the last European tyrants occupied the region.

The ultra-wealthy of Mexico are of European descent, have been a part of the government since the end of the last rebellion, and rule that land with an iron fist.

And finally there's this: Most Mexicans are in reality American Indians, and the same as the American Indians whom live north of the Grand River of the North (Rio Grande).

I'm not saying that we should simply dispense with the borders. What I AM saying is that Mexico needs to deal with its biggest problem of all: ITS GOVERNMENT and the land owners from the Europe who have been practicing oppression for fun and profit.
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I dont care if you dont agree with my "tone".. Im fed up.

ugh.. Ive been on the phone with the cops, code compliance and the health something or other- about the illegals down the street and their thumping car stereo.

At least the people Ive called have been ultra supportive-

Cops went out there because I heard a mewling crying noise-

It was either a cat, unlikely- or - a newborn baby.

Here's the thing.. the guy was gone- I think he left the kid alone while he ran to the store-

( I know this because I was beating on his door, which he wouldnt answer, to tell him to stop driving around my house with that freaking radio booming-)

The cops went out to see about the weird sound, and to tell him about the noise complaint.

I gave the cops his license plate number.. he had no front one..
Texas state law requires you have both.

Health dept called me a little while ago to tell me they sent him a certified notice about his loud music-

Nice hardworking people who just want a chance to be good citizens my fat (very pale) American Indian pimpled BUTT!

Forgive me for my tone- some days I am pushed beyond being polite.

( and I really seriously just enjoy being crude and mean)
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I dont care if you dont agree with my "tone".. Im fed up.
ugh.. Ive been on the phone with the cops, code compliance and the health something or other- about the illegals down the street and their thumping car stereo.
At least the people Ive called have been ultra supportive-
Cops went out there because I heard a mewling crying noise-
It was either a cat, unlikely- or - a newborn baby.
Here's the thing.. the guy was gone- I think he left the kid alone while he ran to the store-
( I know this because I was beating on his door, which he wouldnt answer, to tell him to stop driving around my house with that freaking radio booming-)
The cops went out to see about the weird sound, and to tell him about the noise complaint.
I gave the cops his license plate number.. he had no front one..
Texas state law requires you have both.
Health dept called me a little while ago to tell me they sent him a certified notice about his loud music-
Nice hardworking people who just want a chance to be good citizens my fat (very pale) American Indian pimpled BUTT!
Forgive me for my tone- some days I am pushed beyond being polite.
( and I really seriously just enjoy being crude and mean)
It is good to hear that you are getting some support and replies to your complaints. I wish CPS would go to his house, if he is leaving a baby alone that is very dangerous.

Did happen to read this. O M G what a joke they are worried about American's in Mexico, running up their health care costs. Your gonna love this one, Finster. Mexicans fear their way of life is being threatened with a few American's in Mexico.

"Mexicans: Americans GO HOME! "


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Some Mexicans fear threat to way of life with rapid growth of American residents

Not everyone is rolling out the welcome mat to Americans. Many Mexicans complain about the rapid growth of the American population in their neighborhoods, the threat they see to Mexican culture and language, and the possible drain on Mexico's inexpensive health care.

In San Miguel de Allende, the group Basta Ya is protesting the erosion of the language and the rising cost of living generated by the infusion of dollars into the local economy.

"They think Mexico, especially San Miguel de Allende, is an extension of their country," group member Arturo Morales Tirado said of the Americans who call San Miguel home. "It's not and won't be, no way."

http://forums.crosswalk.com/m_4219360/tm.htm

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Oh I know, I read that in some delight.

I had a friend who worked in the sleep meds clinic.

He is from Mexico- and he's gone home to a waiting practice he will share with his buddies who all graduated from med school together.

He's had a nice home also waiting for him and he says he's away from the violence and poverty.

I think about him and the lack of a middle class in Mexico.

He will be catering to the sleepless rich.

That's off topic, I know, but he's been on my mind.

He wants me to come visit.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAH~
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Oh I know, I read that in some delight.
I had a friend who worked in the sleep meds clinic.
He is from Mexico- and he's gone home to a waiting practice he will share with his buddies who all graduated from med school together.
He's had a nice home also waiting for him and he says he's away from the violence and poverty.
I think about him and the lack of a middle class in Mexico.
He will be catering to the sleepless rich.
That's off topic, I know, but he's been on my mind.
He wants me to come visit.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAH~
Wasn't it a hoot? Found it in the Mexico forum. Saw your nick & knew you would love it. Hey Finster, I remember how much you love to travel ;-)
Did you catch the new definition 'profile' of a domestic terrorist? Glen Beck mentioned it today so I googled it thinking, he was perhaps hamming it up a bit.
http://www.xanga.com/radicalramblings/6959760...

Sadly he wasn't. Please let me know what ya think.

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carol wrote:
<quoted text> Wasn't it a hoot? Found it in the Mexico forum. Saw your nick & knew you would love it. Hey Finster, I remember how much you love to travel ;-)
Did you catch the new definition 'profile' of a domestic terrorist? Glen Beck mentioned it today so I googled it thinking, he was perhaps hamming it up a bit.
http://www.xanga.com/radicalramblings/6959760...
Sadly he wasn't. Please let me know what ya think.
I'll tell you what I think: At any time the people of country allow themselves to be lead around by the nose in order to get something for nothing, then this is what you end up with.
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Now, I don't know about yourself, but there arrives that point in matters government where the elected and the anointed appointed declare that the rest of us —the People— are their property to be dispensed with at leisure to suit some amorphous plan, the details of which only they are aware.
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They pull the strings and we dance to suit them. Today the strings say: HATE THE MEXICANS!
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Yesterday the strings said: HATE THE IRAQIS! HATE THE AFHANS!
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Who knows what people we will be required to hate next?
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BUT IT IS all part of a 'grander' scheme. Think I'm kidding?
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If you're a reader, then the following will help get you up to speed on what's going to happen next:
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War is a racket, by Smedley Butler, Maj. Gen. USMC

http://lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisa...
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The Empire of 'THE CITY'(111 pages)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/813216/E-C-Knuth-Th...
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The STRINGS say hate the Mexicans?

oh.

So its NOT the thumping beaner polka music being played all day -

huh.

How COULD I have been so wrong!

It's strings. I will give this a lot of consideration.
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Actually, I think I know what youre saying, though I think in this instance you are dead wrong-

We go to war with people and we have to make them out as less than human.

We have posters, war propaganda.

Here's one- http://www.google.com/imgres...

And then we make peace with our enemy and after a bit, its like we never thought of them that way-

But in THIS case, with the illegals-

I think our govt WANTS us to be tolerant.

Our politicians court their supporters for votes.

Our own people turncoat on the country by hiring them out of greed for a bigger profit margin.

I dont think govt needs to tell me to be disgusted by the sheer numbers of illegals in my neighborhood.. I can do that ALL on my own volition.

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Actually, I think I know what youre saying, though I think in this instance you are dead wrong-
We go to war with people and we have to make them out as less than human.
We have posters, war propaganda.
Here's one- http://www.google.com/imgres...
And then we make peace with our enemy and after a bit, its like we never thought of them that way-
But in THIS case, with the illegals-
I think our govt WANTS us to be tolerant.
Our politicians court their supporters for votes.
Our own people turncoat on the country by hiring them out of greed for a bigger profit margin.
I dont think govt needs to tell me to be disgusted by the sheer numbers of illegals in my neighborhood.. I can do that ALL on my own volition.
You may either make enemies, or make friends.

Friends are easier to deal with ...
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You may either make enemies, or make friends.
Friends are easier to deal with ...
Gee I guess you haven't seen WHY most citizens are angry at the illegals and thier supporters.

Let me educate you...
www.mexica-movement.org
&fe ature=channel_page

Think they don't believe it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

General info on what has transpired.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Citizens are NOT stupid and we see what has happened. We actually see for ourselves what the illegals are doing.
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Highlander, I am reading the first link and going to the second. I know there is corruption & am aware of some of the connections. Halliburton/Cheney Bush's grandfather IBM & more.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/813216/E-C-Knuth-Th...

The Empire of 'THE CITY'(111 pages)

Could you please post what you want me to see on page 111 in the second link?

I will get back to you on the first one.

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Gee I guess you haven't seen WHY most citizens are angry at the illegals and thier supporters.
Let me educate you...
www.mexica-movement.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =a_YW3bilXpUXX&feature=cha nnel_page
Think they don't believe it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
General info on what has transpired.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Citizens are NOT stupid and we see what has happened. We actually see for ourselves what the illegals are doing.
I don't do 'YouTube' as it is a part of the google abyss.

So, I'll surmise that the tendered videos rankle over the matter of illegal aliens.

Well, I can't blame them for a number of reasons.

But you know? If they do a job that nobody else wants to do —for whatever reason— where's the beef?

They are here and that's a fact.

Now, here's a thought which you ~might not~ have considered: They are being allowed into this country to achieve an objective.

They are being allowed in by factions WITHIN the U.S. Government to achieve an objective.

The goal? THE GOAL is to foist upon the rest of us a NATIONAL ID CARD.

THE GOAL is that =>YOU<= WILL NOT be able to spend money ANYWHERE without that card.

THE GOAL is to virtually FLOOD the nation with so many illegals that YOU'LL BEG for something to be done.

WHAT YOU'LL END UP DOING IS SURRENDERING ALL OF YOUR LIBERTY IN THE NAME OF MONEY.

ARE YOU READY?

NO ID CARD? NO JOB, NO FOOD, NO GAS, NO BANK ACCOUNT, NO HOUSE, NO NOTHING.

ARE YOU READY?
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But you know? If they do a job that nobody else wants to do —for whatever reason— where's the beef?

Highlander-- you just lost me. That's IT.

WHAT a stinking freaking stupid- MYTH that statement is!

It angers me past reasoning with.

There IS no JOB that Americans wont DO that Illegals WILL..

the difference is- we want to be paid FAIRLY for our efforts and we want a SAFE ENVIRONMENT to work in!

I have worked, myself, in many places in my long life that the illegals have taken over and consider it something Americans wont touch.

I have washed dishes in restaurants, I have worked as an orderly in a nursing home-( my first paying job- I have been the wiper of other people's bottoms. It was a GOOD job and I felt like I was needed and I was certainly appreciated.)

I have thrown papers, I have been a delivery driver, I have worked as a cleaning person in homes and offices.

Ive painted, and done make ready and fixed holes in sheetrock.

I have worked in fast food establishments ( in my youth before I went vegetarian)

I have owned my own company, and Ive hired people who certainly were NOT illegals.

I have friends who have lawn care businesses-- that have gone under because they cant compete with illegal invaders who work for money under the table.

I have friends in the construction business, same thing.

I dont think this is all trickery to force us to have some kind of tracking device shoved up our noses.

I think this is all about turning the other way to not SEE what's in front of us because its RUDE, not PC-- and .. the politicians dont want to lose the hispanic vote.

I think its all relatively SIMPLE and not complicated.

Are you one of those Conspiracy Theorists?

one of my friends calls them "moonbats".
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Highlander wrote:
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I don't do 'YouTube' as it is a part of the google abyss.
So, I'll surmise that the tendered videos rankle over the matter of illegal aliens.
Well, I can't blame them for a number of reasons.
But you know? If they do a job that nobody else wants to do —for whatever reason— where's the beef?
They are here and that's a fact.
Now, here's a thought which you ~might not~ have considered: They are being allowed into this country to achieve an objective.
They are being allowed in by factions WITHIN the U.S. Government to achieve an objective.
The goal? THE GOAL is to foist upon the rest of us a NATIONAL ID CARD.
THE GOAL is that =>YOU<= WILL NOT be able to spend money ANYWHERE without that card.
THE GOAL is to virtually FLOOD the nation with so many illegals that YOU'LL BEG for something to be done.
WHAT YOU'LL END UP DOING IS SURRENDERING ALL OF YOUR LIBERTY IN THE NAME OF MONEY.
ARE YOU READY?
NO ID CARD? NO JOB, NO FOOD, NO GAS, NO BANK ACCOUNT, NO HOUSE, NO NOTHING.
ARE YOU READY?
Your conclusion as to the national ID card is correct. Your accepting illegal aliens and not blaming them is adding to the problems we face as American citizens. They use too many of our limited funds. Anchor babies allow them access to section 8 housing, they are able "the illegal aliens" to use "emergency Medicaid". They are uneducated and therefore the majority make little money. All of the illegal aliens that do work, use stolen social security numbers and harm the true owners of those numbers. They engage and bring more illegal activity, by forging and selling ID‘s, not to mention the major crime wave assaulting our nation by the Mexican Drug Cartels. The list is too long to mention here. Why don't you try to help stop the invasion of illegal aliens instead of excusing "not blaming" them? I simply do not understand your conflicting statements here. You oppose so much with vigor, yet excuse one of the most harmful things being done to this nation, by your acceptance of millions of people, here illegally.
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Highlander, another thought on your comment, "They are here and that's a fact."

Your logic is lacking in comprehension, let us take it to another level. We have bank robbers, rapist, child molesters, murderers, white collar criminals, scam artists,.... "They are here and that's a fact".

So, by your standard of redress we should let all those criminals go free too.
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I contacted the Hispanic Center in my City and asked them if they could give me a number to an agency that provides H2A Visa Workers, they didn't know. All they cared about was the fact that we are reporting American businesses and citizens that hire illegal aliens to the State for non-payment of payroll taxes. The State said they would gladly take any information we could provide and after they were done with the businesses and citizens they would then refer the matter to the IRS and DHS.

AMERICAN JOBS FOR AMERICAN WORKERS!
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sic balls, Carl- I need more coffee.

ugh. Highlander.. moonbat.

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