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Red-light camera flash doesn't always mean a ticket | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 21 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Feb 5, 2011, titled Red-light camera flash doesn't always mean a ticket | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

A red-light camera on Long Street is one of 20 at 18 locations around the city. That dreaded flash of light when you decide to go for it isn't always going to cost you.

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Columbus Citizen

Columbus, OH

#1 Feb 5, 2011
Got a nice picture of my wife in the mail. I thought I put it up to save but I think she got her hands on it sometime afterwards. I can't locate it anymore. The look on her face was pretty funny. Worth the cost of the ticket!
Archie Bunker on Steroids

Westerville, OH

#2 Feb 5, 2011
Damned doughnut eaters can collect without even getting their fat asses out of their car. Those cameras suck!
dirk

Powell, OH

#3 Feb 5, 2011
Archie Bunker on Steroids wrote:
Damned doughnut eaters can collect without even getting their fat asses out of their car. Those cameras suck!
lol @ hating on cops for upholding the law, pathetic.
otis

Tiffin, OH

#4 Feb 5, 2011
there is some common sense to the system. But I have seen far too many drivers zip through a right on red and never come close to a stop.

Another problem is that drivers suddenly think that a few snowflakes in the air is suddenly permission to run a light.
Just Another Voter

Columbus, OH

#5 Feb 6, 2011
Interesting that Reflex Traffic Systems is chartered in Australia, making it a "foreign" company. More of our tax dollars going overseas? Afterall, it is taxes that pay for police coverage, so we pay out to an Australian firm every time a red light is run in Columbus.
John Blutarsky

United States

#6 Feb 6, 2011
dirk wrote:
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lol @ hating on cops for upholding the law, pathetic.
It's far easier, safer and lucrative for the poolice to enforce laws with a nice financial return like red lights and speeding enforcement than riskier laws like rape, burglary, murder, assault etc....
Roybus

Columbus, OH

#7 Feb 6, 2011
Just Another Voter wrote:
Interesting that Reflex Traffic Systems is chartered in Australia, making it a "foreign" company. More of our tax dollars going overseas? Afterall, it is taxes that pay for police coverage, so we pay out to an Australian firm every time a red light is run in Columbus.
Thats funny,the rest of the world is saying the same thing about American companys.
Just Wanna Know

Hopkinsville, KY

#8 Feb 6, 2011
They have 6 fulltime officers making in excess of 60k in salaries, plus benefits reviewing photos? Six?
Tennessee Jerry

Madisonville, TN

#9 Feb 6, 2011
Just Wanna Know wrote:
They have 6 fulltime officers making in excess of 60k in salaries, plus benefits reviewing photos? Six?
Do you think that is relevant? Well, that's fewer and safer than it would take to run each driver down, write the ticket, etc. The review assures that it is an actual violation and it protects the driver's rights. Columbus isn't getting one penny that you violators aren't providing. Stop when you are supposed to and quit bellyaching. They have the red light camaras here in Knoxville too, I earned one of the pictures and a $50.00 fine. I repeat, I "earned" one of the pictures and a $50.00 fine.
Read the article that describes the fewer fatalities at the camara locations since they have been operating. There are a few more rear end collisions also called Assurred Clear Distance violations but they have not been serious accidents.
Actually, it's a great way to provide income for the city in tough times from those that deserve providing it. It seems the real issue is, the violators didn't get away with it and they are getting their feelings hurt.
How do you feel about the department stores having camaras to catch the shoplifters? They pay store security to monitor them and that cost is added to the products being sold. I'll bet you say, that sure is $ worth spending.
Tennessee Jerry

Madisonville, TN

#10 Feb 6, 2011
John Blutarsky wrote:
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It's far easier, safer and lucrative for the poolice to enforce laws with a nice financial return like red lights and speeding enforcement than riskier laws like rape, burglary, murder, assault etc....
It sure is and it's good that it is safer too. The officers don't have to run you down to give you the ticket you earned. It also frees up more officers that can enforce the more serious offenses. A good financial return is just what the city needs in these tough times. Where is the harm? The crybaby being caught? Are you suggesting that we terminate traffic court too? Get over it and stop when you are supposed to stop.
Tennessee Jerry

Madisonville, TN

#11 Feb 6, 2011
Just Another Voter wrote:
Interesting that Reflex Traffic Systems is chartered in Australia, making it a "foreign" company. More of our tax dollars going overseas? Afterall, it is taxes that pay for police coverage, so we pay out to an Australian firm every time a red light is run in Columbus.
Yep, they get US $. They get a % of every violation, the city gets the rest. It covers the cost of the officer's review and the city still earns a profit. So it's quite a stretch to say it tax dollars leaving the US. It is actually the $ from the violators. Tax dollars my a@@. Gee, I wonder if you forgot the TAX DOLLARS being collected from Reflex Traffic Systems?
Tennessee Jerry

Madisonville, TN

#12 Feb 6, 2011
Archie Bunker on Steroids wrote:
Damned doughnut eaters can collect without even getting their fat asses out of their car. Those cameras suck!
Yeh, I know. I hear that department stores can actually see a shoplifter stealing by watching their camaras. It's getting so you can't get away with breaking the law anymore.
Those running the red lights are risking my life...they suck. Those shoplifters add to the cost of the products being sold...they suck too.
How hard is it for your fat a@@ to hit the brake when you are supposed to stop?
Just Wanna Know

Hopkinsville, KY

#13 Feb 6, 2011
Tennessee Jerry wrote:
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Do you think that is relevant? Well, that's fewer and safer than it would take to run each driver down, write the ticket, etc. The review assures that it is an actual violation and it protects the driver's rights. Columbus isn't getting one penny that you violators aren't providing. Stop when you are supposed to and quit bellyaching. They have the red light camaras here in Knoxville too, I earned one of the pictures and a $50.00 fine. I repeat, I "earned" one of the pictures and a $50.00 fine.
Read the article that describes the fewer fatalities at the camara locations since they have been operating. There are a few more rear end collisions also called Assurred Clear Distance violations but they have not been serious accidents.
Actually, it's a great way to provide income for the city in tough times from those that deserve providing it. It seems the real issue is, the violators didn't get away with it and they are getting their feelings hurt.
Maybe in Knoxville you folks are flush with police officers working the streets. Unless it's a very major circumstance you can't find a cop with a search warrant in Columbus. Response times are high and I'm sure you won't find a shortage of people who could tell you they summoned the police for serious matters and waited in excess of 3 hours. I'm not in opposition to the cameras or the manner in which they are used. But 6 fulltime trained and most likely "very veteran" officers at a sum of almost half a million dollars per year to look at videos is not what this program was designed to do. It was meant to free up officers to provide the daily services that are required.
It certainly doesn't require 6 people to do this task. The city can use the funding from this project to hire responsible, ethical citizens who have common sense to review these videos and put cops out doing what cops should be doing.
Tennessee Jerry

Madisonville, TN

#14 Feb 6, 2011
Columbus Citizen wrote:
Got a nice picture of my wife in the mail. I thought I put it up to save but I think she got her hands on it sometime afterwards. I can't locate it anymore. The look on her face was pretty funny. Worth the cost of the ticket!
I saved mine. I actually still have my picture from Germany in 1963 for speeding.(That's 1963) I also, have one for a running red light in 2009 here in Knoxville. It was cheaper than if an officer had run me down and no points. My wife still enjoys telling me "I told you so". Oh, I never come close to running that red light anymore. That is also worth the cost of the ticket.
Linda

Galloway, OH

#15 Feb 6, 2011
1.Invasion of privacy
2. Money grubbing vampires
3.1984 control of the people
When a law is unjust...do not comply.
Topper

Bowling Green, OH

#16 Feb 6, 2011
You see more & more of those dark plastic covers over license plates....
Tennessee Jerry

Madisonville, TN

#17 Feb 6, 2011
Linda wrote:
1.Invasion of privacy
2. Money grubbing vampires
3.1984 control of the people
When a law is unjust...do not comply.
Linda, Linda. You certainly posted you comment just to get a reaction. Otherwise, your elevator doesn't go all the way to the top.
1. Can't be. You are a public street with your violation reviewed by a officer of the city.
2. All ticket income is provided by the citizens who violate the law. If you don't want to give your "blood", stop when you are supposed to stop.
3. What control? It's your foot, your brake.
What law is unjust, stopping at a red light? You are advocating running the red light because you don't want to pay the ticket.(Hope my mother isn't comming the other way with the green light.)
Thinker

Columbus, OH

#18 Feb 6, 2011
What a PR piece for the camera gang.

How many tickets were issued and upheld for police vehicles not found to be in an emergency? I bet zero.
that SOB in Reynoldsburg

Reynoldsburg, OH

#19 Feb 6, 2011
Linda wrote:
1.Invasion of privacy
2. Money grubbing vampires
3.1984 control of the people
When a law is unjust...do not comply.
Yer up late tonight!

You drinking catpiss with vinegar chasers?

I'll bet you've never read 1984.

When a law is unjust use the law to fight it unless you are planning on declaring your independence or seceding.
RMB

Delaware, OH

#20 Feb 6, 2011
Watch out criminals. When committing a crime, you'll hear, "smile, you're on candid camera". A photo and subpoena will be sent in the mail.

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