mt vernon is a bad place to live
Victoria

Brooklyn, NY

#41 Jan 19, 2009
I am thinking of buying a home in Mount Vernon, NY. Some of the posts have me thinking whether this is a good idea. Tell me more about the city.
babooo

Bronx, NY

#42 Jan 19, 2009
If it was 1958 it would be a great place to buy a home. Try and stay away from 3rd st between 2nd
and 5th ave. Why are you thinking of buying a home
in Mt. Vernon? Are you crazy?
TheDon

San Jose, CA

#43 Jan 19, 2009
Victoria wrote:
I am thinking of buying a home in Mount Vernon, NY. Some of the posts have me thinking whether this is a good idea. Tell me more about the city.
The north side of Mount Vernon is still a very nice place. North of the Cross County Parkway is expensive but the most desirable. East of Gramatan Ave. and north of E. Lincoln Ave is still okay.
The 12 homicides in 2008 happened in a 2 square mile area of south Mt. Vernon. Don't even go south of the New Haven line train tracks.
captainstewart

Brentwood, NY

#44 Jan 20, 2009
We live in the Fleetwood area of Mt Vernon. It is very pretty and we love our house. My family feels very safe. Clearly there are parts of Mt Vernon that are not good places, and they need more attention. The high school has a terrible reputation and it brings down the values of the homes. I am told that the middle schools are OK. My kids did not go to school in Mt Vernon. We knew all this in advance of buying our home here, and we got a great home for a great price in a beautiful neighborhood. My neighbors take very good care of their properties. To simply say that Mt Vernon is a bad place to live is inaccurate.

Captian Jack

Bronx, NY

#45 Jan 21, 2009
Why didn't your kids go to Mt. Vernon Schools?
Fleetwood is not the Mt. Vernon we are talking about. I was born and raised in Mt. Vernon and
it has really changed and not for the better.
Lord Jim

Bethlehem, CT

#46 Jan 27, 2009
The Ginger Man wrote:
That was the "Embassy" on E. 3rd St.
Also the "Biltmore" on 5th Ave. near 1st St.
I also had a Argus route on 3rd and 4th ave. with 90 customers the same time period.
Yes Mt. Vernon was a great town, what happened?
I attened Sacred Heart School on 5th Ave.
Loved the "Feast",the Pool,the movies and as a
little "nipper" I would ride the trolley .
But I guess "change has come to Mount Vernon".
I was born in Mt. Vernon 1944 went to Scared Heart & AB Davis, shopped on 4th Ave. went to the Bee Hive for Ice Cream had an Argus paper route, went to the Embassy Theater every Saturday and learned how to kiss, love, fight, drive and
hate in Mt. Vernon, the problems of My Mt. Vernon started along time ago, when well meaning people did things that they didn't understand and then watched as their plans feel on hard times. I moved to Bethel, Ct in 1976 looking for a new MT. Vernon but it never felt like home. I'll probably go to my event horizon still thinking in my heart that Mt. Vernon and Knopp's Deli is my true HOME.
Lord Jim

Bethlehem, CT

#47 Jan 27, 2009
I was born in Mt. Vernon 1944 went to Scared Heart & AB Davis, shopped on 4th Ave. went to the Bee Hive for Ice Cream had an Argus paper route, went to the Embassy Theater every Saturday and learned how to kiss, love, fight, drive and hate in Mt. Vernon, the problems of My Mt. Vernon started along time ago, when well meaning people did things that they didn't understand and then watched as their plans feel on hard times. I moved to Bethel, Ct in 1976 looking for a new MT. Vernon but it never felt like home. I'll probably go to my event horizon still thinking in my heart that Mt. Vernon and Knopp's Deli is my true HOME.
The Ginger Man

Bronx, NY

#48 Jan 30, 2009
Lord Jim, we are the same age. I went to Sacred
Heart and AB Davis. I grew up a couple of blocks
from the Embassy Theater. We had to go to the Bee
Hive every 1st friday after Communion--remember that? My Argus Rte. was 4 Ave. & 3rd Ave. between 3rd & 4th street. Do you remember the "6 Street woods" down on Sandford Blvd. I used to swing from the vines like I was Tarzan.
Do you remember the "tracks"? If you remember them we grew up in the same neighborhood. Anything I need in life I could find down at the "tracks". How about the Carvel stand on Fulton and
Sandford Blvd.--Best hot dogs I ever ate.
And Johnnys' Pizza--best pizza I ever ate.
I guess I could go on and on--sure miss old Mt.
Vernon.
The Ginger Man

Bronx, NY

#49 Jan 30, 2009
Just remembered--the "tracks" were also called
the "cut". It ran from Sandford Blvd. up to 3rd St.
Took the city years to fill it up.
TheDon

Santa Ana, CA

#50 Feb 1, 2009
The Ginger Man wrote:
And Johnnys' Pizza--best pizza I ever ate.
Johnny's is now on W.Lincoln Ave., a couple of blocks off Gramatan. I haven't eaten there in a while because my wife doesn't like REALLY thin pizza. It is fabulous though. It's being run by the younger generation of the family. My friends and I used to love going there when it was down on Gramatan Ave. We called it "pizza with an attitude" because of the owner's volatile personality. He was a nice guy though. We used to have fun with him once and a while by taking turns asking for a slice-'and please slice it in half so I can share'- even though there was a sign right there stating: "NO SLICES".
Had pizza at Joe's in Fleetwood a few weeks ago. Still fantastic. Even though they expanded a little, the original dining area still has the same tables and seating from when I was a little kid. I always go there many times when I'm in town because the pizza here in CA. just doesn't measure up. I'll definitely hit Johnny's soon. Just talking about it is making me hungry.
The Ginger Man

Bronx, NY

#51 Feb 1, 2009
Johnny's had the same "attitude" when they were
on 3rd St. Between 3rd and 4th Ave and that was in the 50's. I had one of them on my paper rte. on
3rd Ave.(never gave me a tip). I still remember the red and white checkered table cloths. Another great place for Pizza was by the 241st. Subway .
What area in MV are you from?
TheDon

Santa Ana, CA

#52 Feb 1, 2009
The Ginger Man wrote:
Johnny's had the same "attitude" when they were
on 3rd St. Between 3rd and 4th Ave and that was in the 50's. I had one of them on my paper rte. on
3rd Ave.(never gave me a tip). I still remember the red and white checkered table cloths. Another great place for Pizza was by the 241st. Subway .
What area in MV are you from?
I grew up in Fleetwood and moved to CA. in the late 80's. I used to go back every other month but now I limit it to just a couple of times a year.
The pizza place your referring to on 241st. is Peppino's. My dad used to wake me up on Saturdays,(around noon) after going out the night before, to go down there and get him a couple of spinach slices. The place went downhill in the early 90's after the original owners sold. I passed by the place over the holidays but didn't go in. That whole area now is predominately Jamaican/Caribbean.
bob

New York, NY

#53 Jul 3, 2009
i know the city,s crime rate is up but pennington elementry is completly safe
Howard

New York, NY

#54 Jul 7, 2009
I grew up in MT Vernon and i have seen it go down the drain. As more african americans moved into MV it has become trash. They have ruined this once beatiful town. What a shame. If this town only had white people it would be much nicer. Cant beleive how one race can move in a ruin this town. What loosers!!!!!!!!!! The dam blks ruined mount vernon
Hal 1944-1961

Abington, MA

#55 Feb 14, 2010
Also born in MtV in 1944, went to Davis, so probably knew Lord Jim and Ginger Man. I lived on the Ozzie and Harriet street of Oakland Ave. between Rt. 22 and Hawthrone Terr. where everyone knew everyone else and all the kids played together.

I left for college at Mich. State after graduation and came back only once to drive around before our 25th reunion which (tellingly) was held at a hotel in White Plains.

I see nothing extraordinary about the changes described here. Cities and towns adjacent to urban centers change with the population shifts and some, but certainly not all, families move seeking a more suburban life but they or their children bring big city problems with them, especially when housing isn't too expensive.

This has nothing to do with race!

I feel lucky to have grown up in post-war Mt. Vernon where we really didn't lock our doors and at least once a year our elementary school teachers came for lunch at every student's house.
laughingatmonkey s

Mount Vernon, NY

#56 Feb 21, 2010
mt vernon was fine until it was over run with blacks.

now....the people that pay the taxes here cant send their children to school here because of the savage animals that have ruined the school system.

anywhere blacks go turns to shit...its a shame,not for them but for the people that have to live with them.

do a demographics search....stay away from anyplace with more then 5% black population in it...once these pieces of shit get somewhere....its all down hill

Since: Feb 10

Mount. Vernon, NY

#57 Feb 22, 2010
I was a third generation Mount Vernonite. Born in 1954 on the west side. I could see the Bronx and Yonkers from my tenement roof.

To better understand how Mount Vernon deteriorated so badly, you have to have been here during what the old timers call the regime change.

Let's call it the "old" regime and the "new" regime. The old regime ended with Mayor Tommy Sharpe, God rest his soul. His well intentioned but misguided vision handed the keys to City Hall to head of the Democratic party in town. Make no mistake about this: Mount Vernon has not had a Mayor since the new regime has taken over. Every Mayor since The new regime seized power has been a puppet.

The puppeteer sits in another office in City Hall, a commissioner in fact, of an obscure office, quietly pulling the strings. This person had a vision. A vision to make up for all the real and perceived injustices of his people. He has squandered through the years the coffers of the city that the hard working taxpayers fill every year. Why do you think a widow living on say, Rich Avenue has to pay close to $5000 per year? She goes down to city hall for help, gets ingnored by some young power-tripping authoritarian from the new regime painting her nails until she deigns to grant her an audience. When she does, she grimaces at the old woman who is "different" than her and obviously benefitted when the old regime was in power. No help is forthcoming and she gets sent on her way. The next person in line is more "like" her, part of the new regime, and gets greeted with a smile and forms to fill out to help reduce the taxes on his home in well, a "different" part of town.

Old regime, new regime. No wonder the major taxpayers have left their beloved city. Decades of misguided funds squandered on useless programs and building projects that supposedly were to benefit the new regime and their children who went right back to gangsta thuggery after a few rounds of basketball at the new state of the art sports/recreation/culture-reso urce center that benefits no one from the old regime, but gives the new regime a sense of pride.

The old regime sadly are dying out and moving out. No problem. The new regime has only to ask for grants from the "new" new regime higher up in the government. Make no mistake, the puppeteer knows how to raise funds. Pay attention those who cling to the old days and the culture you once held so dear. This city has no place for you.

I am a new poster here and would like to add some insight and memories of old Mount Vernon.

God bless and protect those who built this town and help keep their memories joyful ones.
fleetwood resident

New York, NY

#58 Feb 28, 2010
I live in the fleetwood section of MV and i love it here, we've been living here for about 6 years and to me this was one of the best moves ever.
I understand the bad things that people say about the city but the reality is that there are 2 MV, the south of the New Haeven line and the north side.
I would not move to the south side because its horrible this is true, but living in the north side feels like a small town or hamlet, the streets are beautiful the houses are amazing the feel of the place is just great overall.

TO JUST SAY THAT MOUNT VERNON IS HORRIBLE IS NOT TRUE BECAUSE THERE IS AN ENTIRE HALF OF THE CITY THAT IS AMAZING.
MeanDonnaJean

Brooklyn, NY

#59 Jun 27, 2010
yOUNG sHAD wrote:
im a 15 year male in mountvernon ya make us look like buch of gang banggerz husslerz robberz and shiit lik dat mountvernonz a good place to live if u not talkin bout anny 1 trying to act like u hard u good i lived in mountvernon my hole life but i travel and i go places every state got there bad and good placees. lady thatz suckken off ct i have fam dat live in waterbuury it a good place travel south copple milez u get the hood dont try to put down my hom3town ya town of brookfeid i bet behind doorz therz plennty chidren doing drugz and haven sex
The lovely grammar and spelling above shows the "quality education" our children are receiving in this hellhole called Mt. Vernon.

Enough said.
Anthony

Bronx, NY

#60 Jun 30, 2010
ok if you'r not from mount vernon shut your mouth, okay?
because half of you clue-less idiots live no where near mount vernon.
granted, mount vernon is not the best area, there are much worse places, and there are really nice areas in mt. vernon that most of you probably wouldnt even consider to look at becuase your ignorant, insensible people, who need to straighten out their stories

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