OK might propose open carry - Time fo...

OK might propose open carry - Time for MO, too!

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Ozarkian

Eldorado, IL

#1 Jan 27, 2011
I read where Oklahoma is considering submission of a bill for open carry weapons. I think this is a great idea for those who qualify.

Since: Dec 09

Burlington, IA

#2 Jul 28, 2011
Is that carrying a firearm that is not concealed? If so, it already is legal in Missouri to carry a firearm as long as it's visible if you aren't a CCW holder.
Ozarkian

Carterville, IL

#3 Dec 1, 2011
guitarist81 wrote:
Is that carrying a firearm that is not concealed? If so, it already is legal in Missouri to carry a firearm as long as it's visible if you aren't a CCW holder.
I don't think MO has an open carry law, but would be interested in the statute that allows it if you know it. I'm specifically referring to handguns, not rifles, etc. Actually, it seems kind of silly that we need "permission" for something that is actually a constitutional 2nd amendment "right."

Since: Dec 09

Burlington, IA

#4 Jan 4, 2012
There are no statutes in Missouri that deny the right to open-carry a handgun as long as it is visible from one side, the front, and back of the person carrying said handgun.
aur56

Monett, MO

#5 Jan 4, 2012
The 2nd ammendment right to carry a gun, never referred to the kinds of weapons that people own today. The right to defend your home and feed your family has little to with people who own war type weapons.
Hertz

Nixa, MO

#6 Nov 15, 2012
aur56 wrote:
The 2nd ammendment right to carry a gun, never referred to the kinds of weapons that people own today. The right to defend your home and feed your family has little to with people who own war type weapons.
How much water should my toilet use per flush? How many flushes per day?
Hertz

Nixa, MO

#7 Nov 15, 2012
When I get pulled over and the officer says, "Any guns in the car I need to know about?" What are they asking? Could they be any more vague? Why would he need to know? I assume they mean unlawful firearms, because in Missouri you dont need a ccw to carry concealed in your car. I'm thinking this is a type of strategy they use to get you out and search your car. I've actually had police jokingly ask if I had bombs or explosives, probably hoping I would say "no go ahead and take a look". Guess they'll try anything nowaday.
Ozarkian

United States

#8 Feb 4, 2013
We have to be able to defend ouselves. The police can't live up our pant leg.

Since: Dec 09

Burlington, IA

#9 May 29, 2013
Hertz wrote:
When I get pulled over and the officer says, "Any guns in the car I need to know about?" What are they asking? Could they be any more vague? Why would he need to know? I assume they mean unlawful firearms, because in Missouri you dont need a ccw to carry concealed in your car. I'm thinking this is a type of strategy they use to get you out and search your car. I've actually had police jokingly ask if I had bombs or explosives, probably hoping I would say "no go ahead and take a look". Guess they'll try anything nowaday.
When they ask that they are asking for their own safety. For instance, let's say someone gets pulled over and gives consent to search the vehicle. The officer, not knowing there is a pistol under the driver's seat, reaches under, hits the trigger and is a victim of a gunshot wound. It may be accidental, however, knowing that firearm is there would have prevented it. That's why they ask. Furthermore, if you allow an officer to search your vehicle, you have the right to say they can't search the glovebox. You also have the right to stop the search whenever you wish to do so.

Since: Dec 09

Burlington, IA

#10 May 29, 2013
aur56 wrote:
The 2nd ammendment right to carry a gun, never referred to the kinds of weapons that people own today. The right to defend your home and feed your family has little to with people who own war type weapons.
Enlighten me. What kind of weapons did it refer to? You can't sit there and tell me that my 30-06 hunting rifle won't kill just as dead as a so-called "war type weapon."
Hertz

Monett, MO

#11 Jun 5, 2013
guitarist81 wrote:
<quoted text> When they ask that they are asking for their own safety. For instance, let's say someone gets pulled over and gives consent to search the vehicle. The officer, not knowing there is a pistol under the driver's seat, reaches under, hits the trigger and is a victim of a gunshot wound. It may be accidental, however, knowing that firearm is there would have prevented it. That's why they ask. Furthermore, if you allow an officer to search your vehicle, you have the right to say they can't search the glovebox. You also have the right to stop the search whenever you wish to do so.
Yes, I realize all of this. This was not the point I was making. What I'm wondering is.. if I answer yes, I have a gun in the car are they going to "ask" me to step out of the car and try to escalate the situation. Does having a legal firearm in the vicinity of my vehicle where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy constitute "probable cause" for a search? Does the officers safety come before my rights as an American? No one is forcing them to be a law enforcement officer.

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