Since: Aug 12

United States

#22 Sep 9, 2012
Yes but what's the point of quitting cold turkey if you know your just going to relapse again. Suboxone is a proven safe long term medication, the latter is not. It's busy bodies like YOU who are the people who judge and call us junkies because were on this life saving medication. It's always what you "saw your friend go through, or you heard about." It's not always about wanting off the drugs, addiction is SO much stronger than "want" it doesn't give a shit what you "want" and by the way you talk i can tell that you haven't been through it. i can remember back when i was using, and compare it to how i am now. Not only has suboxone changed how i feel on a normal daily basis, but being on suboxone is going to the doctor, proving your not taking anything else, having the want to go to work and live by the rules. I'm a happier, healthier person than before. The only thing you can argue is that we're not 100% sober, well i also drink coffee, that too is an addictive drug. And might as well call anybody who has more than one or two drinks or more per month not sober either if you want to be truly technical about it. There is no point, it doesn't matter, because I'm not harming you or anybody else by living the way i do.
Snapperhead

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#23 Sep 9, 2012
Mr. Right.. you should change your name..

6 out of 10 from rehab go right back to dope... that's true. Obviously you don't know much about recovery except that 'your way' is the only way... so what are you addicted to? Oh, doesn't matter... I almost forgot. Cold turkey is fine for those that can do it, however, most people can't. You're a judgemental hypocrit ,,l,,

People like you should stick to whatever you do know something about.

You'd make a great 'average Christian' and by that I mean talking one thing and doing the exact opposite. Showing up on Sunday and being a fake but being a jerkoff Monday thru Saturday.
mr right

Mount Sterling, KY

#24 Sep 9, 2012
Hey drughead o I meant snapperhead at least I'm not a jerk head all week long you should change your name to jug head or meat head "DEAD FROM THE NECK UP".

Since: Aug 12

United States

#25 Sep 9, 2012
The thing is "mr right" is snapperhead hit the nail on the head. Cold turkey is near impossible, and also not safe by any means. I don't wish addiction on anybody, but i wish more people could understand what it's like without actually going through it. It's one of those things, like dying for instance(as morbid as it is) you CAN'T know what it's like without experiencing it. You can't know how awful it is even if your own flesh and blood tells you about it vividly, and quitting cold turkey almost never works out, people will tell you otherwise, but there is still time. Once it's in your system, you will always fantasize about it.
mr right

Mount Sterling, KY

#26 Sep 9, 2012
helipiro wrote:
The thing is "mr right" is snapperhead hit the nail on the head. Cold turkey is near impossible, and also not safe by any means. I don't wish addiction on anybody, but i wish more people could understand what it's like without actually going through it. It's one of those things, like dying for instance(as morbid as it is) you CAN'T know what it's like without experiencing it. You can't know how awful it is even if your own flesh and blood tells you about it vividly, and. quitting cold turkey almost never works out, people will tell you otherwise, but there is still. time. Once it's in your system, you will always. fantasize about it.
It works if u want it to
first off people shouldn't never get on drugs. It's caused so many divorces. Stealing. Even killing there only family members. I have no sympathy for a drug head or a drug dealer. And people like you take up for them.and as far as suboxzones are concerned you can get hooked on them too.cause
I've seen dealers and user sale them too just go too Walmart parking lot and watch people go to pharmacy and get them and go straight to the parking lot and sale them.they always set at the far end of parking lot. And then tell me how good they work. How can they work if u sale them and don't take them.
Johnny Ringo

Mount Sterling, KY

#27 Sep 9, 2012
As long as they are legitimately trying they are to be commended and encouraged in my book. Apathy and denial are the enemies of recovery.
Snapperhead

Mount Sterling, KY

#28 Sep 9, 2012
mr right wrote:
Hey drughead o I meant snapperhead at least I'm not a jerk head all week long you should change your name to jug head or meat head "DEAD FROM THE NECK UP".
weren't listening were ya'? I used to be a drug user and abuser. I am not anymore. The old me would've argued with you but the new me doesn't need to.

Suboxone is a drug. People will abuse it and sell it to people who wish to get high.

If a man or woman is SERIOUS about getting off an addiction to pain medicine Suboxone may be the answer to their problem. They should try cold turkey & going to meetings first. They should try for a good while as well.

This thread was started for folks who HAVE TRIED but failed. I am a Suboxone success story. I wanted to share with others that there is help outside meetings alone. Some of us couldn't make it LONG TERM with just meetings. Suboxone enabled me to be live. I no longer need ANY drug to get by.

If you're not an addict you probably have no business in this thread helping TWHART someone else's recovery.

Just think "Mr Right", you may have just helped convince someone that there is NO HOPE FOR THEM.

I was trying to tell them that there IS HOPE for them.

I will now 'go back' on my word & call you a dim witted douche bag.
mr right

Mount Sterling, KY

#29 Sep 9, 2012
Snapperhead wrote:
<quoted text>
weren't listening were ya'? I used to be a drug user and abuser. I am not anymore. The old me would've argued with you but the new me doesn't need to.
Suboxone is a drug. People will abuse it and sell it to people who wish to get high.
If a man or woman is SERIOUS about getting off an addiction to pain medicine Suboxone may be. the answer to their problem. They should try cold . turkey & going to meetings first. They should try for a good while as well.
This thread was started for folks who HAVE TRIED but failed. I am a Suboxone success story. I wanted to share with others that there is help. outside meetings alone. Some of us couldn't make it LONG TERM with just meetings. Suboxone enabled me to be live. I no longer need ANY drug to get by.
If you're not an addict you probably have no business in this thread helping TWHART someone else's recovery.
Just think "Mr Right", you may have just helped convince someone that there is NO HOPE FOR THEM.
I was trying to tell them that there IS HOPE for them.
I will now 'go back' on my word & call you a dim witted douche bag.
please don't call me none of your family names. A douche bag is you're sister.
Snapperhead

Mount Sterling, KY

#30 Sep 9, 2012
well at least you didn't deny the 'dim witted' part.
mr right

Mount Sterling, KY

#31 Sep 9, 2012
Snapperhead wrote:
well at least you didn't deny the 'dim witted' part.
I can see why you can't get a job.you jerk

Since: Aug 12

United States

#32 Sep 9, 2012
It's like talking to a brick wall. I guess your the smartest person alive,congratulations. Several people here telling you first hand how it's worked for them and legitimately given their life back, yet your second hand "knowledge" is all you can argue. You think people just start using painkillers for the f**k of it??? You must be lucky enough to never have had a broken back in three spots and NEEDED painkillers to get five minutes of sleep. That's how it starts you twat. Painkillers give you the will to fight when you think your going to die from the mere pain your in, not because you say f**k it one day and decide to see what getting high is all about. Same as the majority of addicts that get dragged down this godforsaken path. It's all so simple in your perfect little brain "duhh...don't start doing drugs in the first place..." that's your argument. I hope the devil grabs your thigh one day, you wont even know it happened until your in too deep, then you can kick and fight your way back like the rest of us are doing just to have people like you try to break us down, and for what? To feel like you know what your saying because you talked to someone who observed a car in the corner of thank walmart parking lot selling suboxone? If it was prohibition, they'd be selling moonshine and you'd be wasting your worthless breath on that. we have a prodigy on our hands people, mr right knows EVERYTHING!!! All he can do is come back with stupid drughead! or talk shit about my mother or some dumb shit like i care. Guess what, this druggy is most likely more successful than you!
Snapperhead

Mount Sterling, KY

#33 Sep 9, 2012
mr right wrote:
<quoted text>I can see why you can't get a job.you jerk
Oh, I can get a job.. I'm still awaiting another one that pays $25 per hour. Sue me for having an education, Mr. Wrong.
mr right

Mount Sterling, KY

#34 Sep 9, 2012
Snapperhead wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, I can get a job.. I'm still awaiting another one that pays $25 per hour. Sue me for having an education, Mr. Wrong.
I have a job that all I have to work is 6 or 9 months out of the year. And set back and enjoy the rest of the year.and I've only got a high school education and make 45
To 65$ per hour plus the use of my truck.
Wise

United States

#35 Sep 9, 2012
I agree with helipiro. Everyone is saying "oh let's ban all pain clinics!" or ban all pain doctors. Um hello? There is people out there with legitimate pain who need that medicine! Some abuse it an some don't! You think that my 75 year old grandmother is a druggie because she takes lortabs for her pain? NO. You think my mom who has hernieated disks and carpal tunnel is a druggie because she takes pain medication? NO. People really really need to loosen up and get their panties out of their asses. NOT EVERYONE who takes pain meds is a freakin druggie! And I applaud mr snapper head for his success I wish you all the best and it's good to hear someone who has overcome it and has spoken out.
mr right

Mount Sterling, KY

#36 Sep 10, 2012
Wise wrote:
I agree with helipiro. Everyone is saying "oh let's ban all pain clinics!" or ban all pain doctors. Um hello? There is people out there with legitimate pain who need that medicine! Some abuse it an some don't! You think that my 75 year old grandmother is a druggie because she takes lortabs for her pain? NO. You think my mom who has hernieated disks and carpal tunnel is a druggie because she takes pain medication? NO. People really really need to loosen up and get their panties out of their ass. es. NOT EVERYONE who takes pain meds is a. freakin druggie! And I applaud mr snapper head. for his success I wish you all the best and it's good. to hear someone who has overcome it and has spoken out.
No one said she was a drug head when u read something try hard to understand it.pain clinics and Dr are great it's because people are going just for the money they can make I've had shots in my spine I've had a stimulation box put in my back that operates from a remote control I have slip disks in my back and neck. Pain medication is fine if you take it right. But you get a tolerance to it where it don't work just like morphine. If the Dr is a good Dr he will switch you back and fourth on different medicine.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#37 Sep 10, 2012
Yes people go so they can sell their prescriptions. We all agree that it's wrong. But your calling US out for being addicts and being on the suboxone program. We started out no different than "wise" grandmother,and have found a way to get our lives on track. You, mr right, are bashing us for that.

“Madness is genius.”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#38 Sep 10, 2012
I am glad to see some success stories and let me CONGRATULATE you all. I have witnessed so much destruction of life, love, and happiness at the hands of addiction. I was beginning to wonder if it was really true, that one could ever overcome such a powerful force, I have watched so many struggle. I have never had an addiction (a plus side to my being a control freak- I gotta be in control of me) but I understand how it happens and the progression. I applaud anyone who can live again after being in that hell.
mr right

Mount Sterling, KY

#39 Sep 10, 2012
helipiro wrote:
Yes people go so they can sell their prescriptions. We all agree that it's wrong. But your calling US out for being addicts and being on the suboxone program. We started out no different than "wise" grandmother,and have found a way to get our lives on track. You, mr right, are bashing us for that.
No you are not seeing both side's of the street. I know people
That have got hooked on suboxones too.I'm not saying it won't work but you got to make it work too.it takes two to tango.
old hippy

Morehead, KY

#40 Sep 10, 2012
mr right wrote:
<quoted text>It works if u want it to
first off people shouldn't never get on drugs. It's caused so many divorces. Stealing. Even killing there only family members. I have no sympathy for a drug head or a drug dealer. And people like you take up for them.and as far as suboxzones are concerned you can get hooked on them too.cause
I've seen dealers and user sale them too just go too Walmart parking lot and watch people go to pharmacy and get them and go straight to the parking lot and sale them.they always set at the far end of parking lot. And then tell me how good they work. How can they work if u sale them and don't take them.
Mr. and I use that term loosely, Wright, your a f___ing idiot!!
Wise

United States

#41 Sep 10, 2012
I know what your saying I'm just tryin to make a point. I must have worded it wrong. But I would really like people to understand that without those meds older people would have it rough. I have seen numerous topics on here about banning pain clinics it's not right just because some abuse it. Anybody who overcomes this disease is a strong person. I remember when I got my wisdom teeth pulled out they gave me lortabs and Ibuprofen. I flushed the lortabs and took the others. I don't see how yo get high off them things they didn't do squat for my pain.

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