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Nurse forced to assist in abortion sues Mt. Sinai Hospital second time

There are 9 comments on the Examiner.com story from Apr 29, 2010, titled Nurse forced to assist in abortion sues Mt. Sinai Hospital second time. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

Nurse Cathy Cenzon-DeCarlo Alliance Defense Fund says that their attorneys have filed a lawsuit Friday against Mt.

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“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#1 Apr 30, 2010
Clearly, hospitals need to get rid of nurses who can't do their frigging job, which is NOT second-guessing what constitutes an emergency. There are many nurses who are more than willing to do their jobs without needing to be treated like fragile mental patients.

Does this mean that a white supremacist nurse doesn't have to treat blacks? Do those who find homosexuality an abomination not have to treat gays?

Where does "conscience" intersect with "doing your damned job"?
Lux et Veritas

Minneapolis, MN

#3 Apr 30, 2010
New specter looms for the Party of Death: Rep. Joe Pitts' bill to enforce the Hyde Amendment ensures freedom of choice (novel phrase, that) for hospitals and medical practitioners.

"NONDISCRIMINATION ON ABORTION.—‘‘(1) NONDISCRIMINATION.—A Federal agency or program, and any State or local govern- ment that receives Federal financial assistance under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act),
may
not—‘‘(A) subject any individual or institutional
health care entity to discrimination; or ‘‘(B) require any health plan created or regulated under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act) to subject any individual or institutional health care entity to discrimination, on the basis that the health care entity does not provide, pay for, provide coverage of, or refer for abortions."

Rep. Pitts said of H.R. 5111, the Protect Life Act, which has 57 Republican and Democrat co-sponsors,“A majority of Americans have consistently shown they oppose federal funding for abortion. The new health care law is riddled with loopholes that allow taxpayer subsidies for coverage that includes abortion.

“I’m proud to have strong support from both sides of the aisle. I never want protecting life to be a partisan issue.”

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#4 Apr 30, 2010
Where was this scumbag when the majority of americans made it clear they didn't want to pay for bush's dirty little invasions?
Lux et Veritas wrote:
New specter looms for the Party of Death: Rep. Joe Pitts' bill to enforce the Hyde Amendment ensures freedom of choice (novel phrase, that) for hospitals and medical practitioners.
"NONDISCRIMINATION ON ABORTION.—‘‘(1) NONDISCRIMINATION.—A Federal agency or program, and any State or local govern- ment that receives Federal financial assistance under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act),
may
not—‘‘(A) subject any individual or institutional
health care entity to discrimination; or ‘‘(B) require any health plan created or regulated under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act) to subject any individual or institutional health care entity to discrimination, on the basis that the health care entity does not provide, pay for, provide coverage of, or refer for abortions."
Rep. Pitts said of H.R. 5111, the Protect Life Act, which has 57 Republican and Democrat co-sponsors,“A majority of Americans have consistently shown they oppose federal funding for abortion. The new health care law is riddled with loopholes that allow taxpayer subsidies for coverage that includes abortion.
“I’m proud to have strong support from both sides of the aisle. I never want protecting life to be a partisan issue.”
Forever Life

Erie, PA

#5 Apr 30, 2010
cpeter1313 wrote:
Clearly, hospitals need to get rid of nurses who can't do their frigging job, which is NOT second-guessing what constitutes an emergency. There are many nurses who are more than willing to do their jobs without needing to be treated like fragile mental patients.
Does this mean that a white supremacist nurse doesn't have to treat blacks? Do those who find homosexuality an abomination not have to treat gays?
Where does "conscience" intersect with "doing your damned job"?
Treating blacks and gays? Not the same thing. You didn't know that? We are talking about murdering someone, not "treating" them.
Forever Life

Erie, PA

#6 Apr 30, 2010
cpeter1313 wrote:
Where was this scumbag when the majority of americans made it clear they didn't want to pay for bush's dirty little invasions?
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LOL, when you are wrong you try to change the subject. Too funny.
Lux et Veritas

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Apr 30, 2010
Forever Life wrote:
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LOL, when you are wrong you try to change the subject. Too funny.
Pro-aborts always get squeamish when people with functioning consciences show ethical propriety. Their discomfort is that of Lady Macbeth: "Yet do I fear thy nature; It is too full o' the milk of human kindness."

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story... -- "Hospital apologizes to nurses over abortion decision"

A hospital on Long Island issued an apology Wednesday for disciplining nurses who refused to participate in an abortion.

Nassau University Medical Center now says the nurses did nothing wrong when they said they morally opposed taking part.

It's been the hottest of hot button issues for years. The dust, is now only settling after a fight over abortion between Nassau University Medical Center and the union representing its nurses.

"Quite frankly, it's even difficult for me to talk about, cause it's not a good issue," said Jerry Laricchiuta, the President of CSEA Local 830.

Laricchiuta sees a lot of discipline cases cross his desk. This one is especially sensitive. Nine of his members were suspended by NUMC, for refusing to take part in an abortion.
"We are here to protect our workers rights, and our members have the right to object to perform an abortion if they so choose," explained Laricchiuta.

At the root of this case, is a heartbreaking story. A pregnant woman checked herself in when her water broke at just 14 weeks. A fetus isn't viable outside the womb until 16 weeks. Doctors said the baby simply would not survive. So, instead of waiting days for the mother to give birth, they recommended an abortion, and she agreed.

But in labor and delivery, nine nurses on duty refused to assist because the baby still had a heartbeat, and the mother's life was not in jeopardy. Still, the hospital suspended them all.

"It was clear that management had the wrong set of facts," said NUMC CEO, Arthur Gianelli.

Weeks later, Gianelli admitted, it was all a management mix-up. Nursing managers had thought the mother was in danger when she really was not.

Once the union stepped in, the hospital reversed the suspension. Gianelli also personally apologized to all nine nurses while promising a full review.

"I made the determination that these disciplines were not in order, we rescinded the disciplines and apologized directly to the nurses because I felt they were owed that, quite frankly," said Gianelli.
Lux et Veritas

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Apr 30, 2010
Forever Life wrote:
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Treating blacks and gays? Not the same thing. You didn't know that? We are talking about murdering someone, not "treating" them.
Link on Bart Stupak's bishop's diocesan website: "Abortion is not health care because killing isn't healing."

Bart will soon have plenty of time on his hands to engage his bishop on that topic.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#9 Apr 30, 2010
Oh, get over yourself. If anyone is being murdered, feel free to call the cops.

in point of fact, the PATIENT the nurses are supposed to be dealing with are the WOMEN, not the fetuses.

The issue here is a nurse's "conscience", and my reply was cogent.
Forever Life wrote:
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Treating blacks and gays? Not the same thing. You didn't know that? We are talking about murdering someone, not "treating" them.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#10 Apr 30, 2010
If some douchebag is going to talk about acting on the people's desires, then they need to be consistent.
Forever Life wrote:
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LOL, when you are wrong you try to change the subject. Too funny.

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