Parts of private Cedar Beach accessib...

Parts of private Cedar Beach accessible to public

There are 33 comments on the Newsday story from Feb 22, 2009, titled Parts of private Cedar Beach accessible to public. In it, Newsday reports that:

At Cedar Beach in Mount Sinai, there is a playground and nearby is a sign that reads "private beach ahead." I have heard mothers scold children who crossed that apparent property line, but I believe that either ...

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Uncle Rob

Belmar, NJ

#21 Mar 3, 2009
The people who own these homes know perfectly well that their property ends at the high tide mark and sometimes even before that for access. They try to intimidate the public with their signs. I hope you guys stick together, and when the weather gets nice, Fishermen, Dog Walkers, and people who enjoy the beach will show up in mass. Maybe the sign people and local townships will realize the can of worms they opened.
fisherman

Stamford, CT

#22 Mar 3, 2009
Mark Lesko and Tim Mazzei will be guest speakers at the Next Meeting of the Rocky Point Civic Association. The meeting is March 5 @ 7:30 p.m. at the VFW Hall

These are the two candidates for the Special Election on March 31, 2009 for Brookhaven Town Supervisor.

If you are a Brookhaven resident, try to attend the meeting and have your voice heard. We can let them take away our basic right to use the beach.
towelhead

Bronx, NY

#23 Mar 4, 2009
I enjoy pooping on the beach
fisherman

Stamford, CT

#24 Mar 5, 2009
Nice turnout at this meeting tonight, close to 50% of the people there were fisherman !

Next meeting is on the 18th in Shoreham. if you care about your rights as a citizen to access th beach, please come to this meeting and make your voice heard.
shoreline belongs to ALL

Belmar, NJ

#25 Mar 15, 2009
Summer Breeze wrote:
Stay off my beach.
It IS NOT YOUR BEACH it belongs to the citizens of the State of New York. You have never and WILL NEVER own the shoreline.
Mario

Riverhead, NY

#26 Jun 7, 2010
Party at Ralph's...tonight we protest!
VOTES

Trenton, NJ

#27 Oct 23, 2010
During several of the past elections, your town supervisors and counsil persons gave away many public beaches and marina's such as the case in Mastic beach and Mount Sinai they did this all for votes! Mastic beach before the creation of consil districts controlled alot of who was elected in the town no matter where you ran. What bothers me is that these politicians mostly Grucci and Lavalle don't boat so why do they care about Marina's they gave away this land without voter approval only to prevent the rest of the public from enjoyingit, and we still pay for the Marina's in Mastic beach, all the improvements etc. The Donagan patent which granted the land to the residents to enjoy without them being restricted to the water or beaches over-rides any restrictions they try to put into effect today, the town has been challaged on this and lost everytime thus stating they cannot lock you out or prevent you from getting to or enjoying the water this includes all villages to so if you ever get denied access to the water get an attorney and sue the town village or anyone else that stops you and get a copy of this document the Donagan Patent and use it the say your rights were violated, you will win everytime! but sue in federal court damages are awared alot higher.
VOTES

Trenton, NJ

#28 Oct 23, 2010
I would of poked the scu*bag in the eye with the tip of the pole then acted like it was an accident. if everyone does this maybe this politcally appointed a**hole would get the messgae and move back to NYC
fisherman wrote:
The town of Brookhaven has stated that anyone who possesses a fishing rod on Shoreham Bach, which is a public beach will be issued a summons. Can you imagine that, people pay huge taxes for access to resources yet the town will summons them for stepping on to the beach with a fishing rod. PTD guarantees peoples rights to the water ( see below). Brookhaven town is prohibiting access to the beach and violating the PTD.
"The Public Trust Doctrine provides that public trust lands, waters, and living resources in a State are held by the State in trust for the benefit of all of the people, and establishes the right of the public to fully enjoy public trust lands, waters and living resources for a wide variety of recognized public uses".*
In New York State the public trust waters are the waters of the State, and the public trust lands are the lands now, or formerly, beneath those waters to the high water mark. The living resources inhabiting or dependent on these lands and waters are also subject to the Public Trust Doctrine. On Long Island, as a result of colonial era grants, some of these public trust lands are held by the towns.
The Public Trust Doctrine is particularly important in establishing the public's right to use and pass over the foreshore of tidal waters. In Tucci v. Salzhauer (336 NYS2d 721), a case involving the use of land in Hempstead Harbor, the court defined the public's rights in the foreshore:
When the tide is in, he may use the water covering the foreshore for boating, bathing, fishing, and other lawful purposes; and when the tide is out, he may pass and repass over the foreshore as a means of access to reach the water for the same purposes and to lounge and recline thereon.
New York courts have long upheld the principle stated in Illinois Central Railroad v. Illinois, 146 U.S. 387 (1892). In this landmark case, the Supreme Court held that the state cannot divest itself of its public trust interest. The court said that the state's title to underwater land:
Suzie Q

Centereach, NY

#29 Sep 23, 2012
Hahahahahahaha
Pearls before Swine wrote:
Any of youse douchebags walk on that beach with your mutts I give ya load of buckshot up yer crapper.
Ms Kay

Bronx, NY

#30 Jul 3, 2015
Summer Breeze wrote:
Stay off my beach.
It's not your beach, do your legal research. New York residents pay state taxes for these beaches & all other public land. Approaching someone who is on a New York State beach is considered harrassment and in the state of New York is treated thusly: "In addition to the criminal punishments, a harassment conviction could have other negative consequences. Many employers will not hire anyone with personality traits that could lead to a civil lawsuit. An individual convicted of harassment could also be charged with emotional damage in a collateral lawsuit." So you see, trying to prevent another NY State resident access to these beaches, not your beach, can result in a good bit of discomfort for you from people who know their legal rights as it pertains to access to public land. There is also an avenue for a civil lawsuit additionally. Lastly, there is also the Donagan Patent that although old as all get out, is still legally upheld. So quit whining and share the dadgum beach, afterall, we have quite graciuosly shared it with you all this time.
David Lee

West Hempstead, NY

#31 Jul 1, 2016
Greasey Guierllmo wrote:
hope you dont mind stepping on my broken corona bottles,the cops wont bother me,I am an undocumented immigrant
The only racist ignorant comment behind a fake name. Coward.
Dog walker

Clarksburg, NJ

#32 Sep 5, 2016
Are you allowed to walk your dog on the beaches of the North Shore if you are below the high tide mark?
Local Town

Holbrook, NY

#33 Sep 15, 2016
So, in conclusion, are dogs allowed at Cedar Beach? years ago I was told that I could not walk with my dog at the boardwalk. What is the law, not local homeowners signs, am I allowed to sit on the sand with my pooch ? Anybody know ?

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