Guilty plea in newborn's death

Full story: Newsday 115
A Mount Sinai teenager admitted in court Thursday that she left her newborn baby to die after secretly delivering in her bathroom shower. Full Story
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annoyed

Scranton, PA

#114 Feb 20, 2007
formerly of Ronkonkoma wrote:
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WHAT A CROCK! You most certainly are not related! I know of the family they happen to be related to my landlord when I lived in NY (just last year as a matter of fact). They are immigrants here from Turkey and the girl barely spoke English when they moved here from Ankora. I explained the culture and custom in a earlier post here SINCE I know much about it..My Ex in NY is also Turkish, they DO NOT tolerate this type of behavior coming from their girl children. There are most definatley reasons as to why she let her baby die. And I am sure she regrets what she has done but its been done and nothing anyone says is going to change that!
no nothing is going to change it. and there are alot of crap that arent tolerated and i dont agree with it either, because if certain things were different in our culture and the way our parents and grandparents thought, then maybe she would have went and gotten some help.
annoyed

Scranton, PA

#116 Feb 21, 2007
formerly of Ronkonkoma wrote:
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My bad, I don't remember the Turkish town but I do know in translation it means Greasy River - and I do know your kind, such a terrible thing to happen huh? Too bad her life will never be the same, but as the saying goes here in America, "You make your bed and you lie in it" She should never forget SHE caused the death of her child and her parents ignornace contributed to it. And the bouy SHOULD have done the right thing and marry her and this would NEVER have happened. So it seems many people are to blame for this babys death!
i already said that her parents are to blame too and that she will live with it for the rest of her life and also that she will never forget it either. what do you mean you know my kind and yeah it is a terrible thing and i know she shoudnt forget it either
nicole

New York, NY

#117 Feb 21, 2007
formerly of Ronkonkoma wrote:
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My bad, I don't remember the Turkish town but I do know in translation it means Greasy River - and I do know your kind, such a terrible thing to happen huh? Too bad her life will never be the same, but as the saying goes here in America, "You make your bed and you lie in it" She should never forget SHE caused the death of her child and her parents ignornace contributed to it. And the bouy SHOULD have done the right thing and marry her and this would NEVER have happened. So it seems many people are to blame for this babys death!
Let me just point out something. My best friend got pregnant at 22 and had her child last march at age 23. She is a single mother with no involvement to the father. It's obviously not easy, and of coarse her parents weren't exactly thrilled but she did what she had to do to get by, and none of us could be any happier right now. We all love this child and all help her out.

This girl is 19, she's not a child. If at 19 you don't know what happens when you get pregnant or don't have enough brains to do some research or seek help, your a jackass. You learn about this stuff in school now and the internet is a wonderful tool to use to learn about anything. Obviously she was not mature enough to handle the situation, which at 19 I understand is probably tough. But no matter what, she should have handled the situation much differently than she did, and should be punished. You cannot blame her actions on other people, such as her parents, or the baby's daddy. She's a big girl! If no one else knew, how can you hold them responsible?
annoyed

Scranton, PA

#118 Feb 21, 2007
nicole wrote:
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Let me just point out something. My best friend got pregnant at 22 and had her child last march at age 23. She is a single mother with no involvement to the father. It's obviously not easy, and of coarse her parents weren't exactly thrilled but she did what she had to do to get by, and none of us could be any happier right now. We all love this child and all help her out.
This girl is 19, she's not a child. If at 19 you don't know what happens when you get pregnant or don't have enough brains to do some research or seek help, your a jackass. You learn about this stuff in school now and the internet is a wonderful tool to use to learn about anything. Obviously she was not mature enough to handle the situation, which at 19 I understand is probably tough. But no matter what, she should have handled the situation much differently than she did, and should be punished. You cannot blame her actions on other people, such as her parents, or the baby's daddy. She's a big girl! If no one else knew, how can you hold them responsible?
thats true you cant hold anyone else responsible. and im not saying to anyone that she shouldnt be punished. she should, and she will and everything else. if she couldnt think of the consequences she shouldnt have done it i know that.

i know what should happen and is going to happen. the bottom line with me is that its just hard to read somethings on these things even though i know how it should be anyway. and ive read so many that this one happened to be my breaking point. to everyone i said some things i shouldnt have. thats all. shes my family but she hass no choice to take what is coming to her because in the end it happened.

Since: Feb 07

Colorado Springs, CO

#119 Feb 21, 2007
annoyed wrote:
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thats true you cant hold anyone else responsible. and im not saying to anyone that she shouldnt be punished. she should, and she will and everything else. if she couldnt think of the consequences she shouldnt have done it i know that.
i know what should happen and is going to happen. the bottom line with me is that its just hard to read somethings on these things even though i know how it should be anyway. and ive read so many that this one happened to be my breaking point. to everyone i said some things i shouldnt have. thats all. shes my family but she hass no choice to take what is coming to her because in the end it happened.
I've held my tongue because you and I haven't exactly seen eye to eye. But I have to ask, if these posts were so hard to read and it caused you such anguish and hurt, why would you read them? Why would come back time and time again and renew your hurt? You say you're close to this girl, but how could you allow yourself to read this stuff? People on these forums are brutal. They say ugly, hurtful, terrible things because of the anonymity. Because they feel safe enough to say (or type) things they wouldn't normally say out loud, to someone's face. I myself can get pretty vicious, but I try to be honest and intelligent in what I post. Not for nothing, but you should not read these posts anymore. You're too close to the situation and your view is too narrow. There is nothing on this forum that is going to be constructive, nothing that is going to help comfort you or your relatives. Stop torturing yourself. Help the girl, that's where you can do the most good.
annoyed

Scranton, PA

#120 Feb 21, 2007
Born in Brooklyn wrote:
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I've held my tongue because you and I haven't exactly seen eye to eye. But I have to ask, if these posts were so hard to read and it caused you such anguish and hurt, why would you read them? Why would come back time and time again and renew your hurt? You say you're close to this girl, but how could you allow yourself to read this stuff? People on these forums are brutal. They say ugly, hurtful, terrible things because of the anonymity. Because they feel safe enough to say (or type) things they wouldn't normally say out loud, to someone's face. I myself can get pretty vicious, but I try to be honest and intelligent in what I post. Not for nothing, but you should not read these posts anymore. You're too close to the situation and your view is too narrow. There is nothing on this forum that is going to be constructive, nothing that is going to help comfort you or your relatives. Stop torturing yourself. Help the girl, that's where you can do the most good.
I guess because I can't run away from it, it's here, I'm curious... and just like you said it's easier to deal with it all online then it is person to person

“Sqaud Up”

Since: Dec 06

Long Island

#121 Feb 22, 2007
annoyed wrote:
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thats true you cant hold anyone else responsible. and im not saying to anyone that she shouldnt be punished. she should, and she will and everything else. if she couldnt think of the consequences she shouldnt have done it i know that.
i know what should happen and is going to happen. the bottom line with me is that its just hard to read somethings on these things even though i know how it should be anyway. and ive read so many that this one happened to be my breaking point. to everyone i said some things i shouldnt have. thats all. shes my family but she hass no choice to take what is coming to her because in the end it happened.
Hey Annoyed,
I have a question for you, and im not being nasty or sarcastic, I seriously would just like to know the answer.
If she wasnt related to you... if you just read someone was ultimatley to blame for their new born babys death and got 30 days in jail.. would you think thats enough?
Or if someone else suffocated your new born baby and they got 30 days would that be ok with you?
Its sad that she was that scared of her parents or upbringing to do this. Again, im not tryng to be hurtful or anything im just curious what you think
annoyed

Scranton, PA

#122 Feb 22, 2007
who else could it be wrote:
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Hey Annoyed,
I have a question for you, and im not being nasty or sarcastic, I seriously would just like to know the answer.
If she wasnt related to you... if you just read someone was ultimatley to blame for their new born babys death and got 30 days in jail.. would you think thats enough?
Or if someone else suffocated your new born baby and they got 30 days would that be ok with you?
Its sad that she was that scared of her parents or upbringing to do this. Again, im not tryng to be hurtful or anything im just curious what you think
i would think just the same way you guys would. its werid when something like this does happen in the family, whatever you do think and believe somehow goes out the window.

“Sqaud Up”

Since: Dec 06

Long Island

#123 Feb 22, 2007
annoyed wrote:
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i would think just the same way you guys would. its werid when something like this does happen in the family, whatever you do think and believe somehow goes out the window.
Yup thats very true. My close family friends or myslef have never been in your situation, but there were certain things I believed strongly about death dying afterlife... all went out the window when it hit too close to home.. so i can certainly relate to that.
Whaaat

Centereach, NY

#124 Dec 14, 2007
i cnt believe this girl... she was brave enough to deliver a a baby in the shower but she wasnt brave enough to let it leave. what surprises me more was the courts decision of only 30 day in prison. it is a shame, this just lets us to think that killing innocent babies is completly ok!! the bitch should have gotten a worst a lot worst punishment!!!!!!!
Anonymous

Centereach, NY

#125 Feb 11, 2008
im guessing she was a hore

“Sqaud Up”

Since: Dec 06

Long Island

#126 Feb 26, 2008
amazing to me how people are sent to prison from 6 months to 10-15 years for selling drugs..
but taking a living breathing human being, that cannot protect itself, 30 days...
hhmmmmmmm
wooww

Roslyn Heights, NY

#127 May 15, 2009
Brian wrote:
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what kind of name is zehra anyways, sounds like the child is in a better place then with her....
you guys need to chill out...she was obv confused and scared. im prettys sure she didnt mean to kill the baby. she was prob scared of what to do with it. theres two sides to every story..you dont even know the girl...and zehra is a turkish name hun
wooww

Roslyn Heights, NY

#128 May 15, 2009
annoyed wrote:
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no i wasnt in the same situation.
shes MY family, and quite honestly, she is the one who cries herself to sleep everynight, shes the one who has to live with it for the rest of her life, shes the one who has nothing left in her to even stand up to her self. so dont tell me im wrong for thinking certain things, and im not a malicous person and its not fair that your all assuming that of me. and say what you want in the end, because i know what she is going through. and yes it breaks my heart that she did what she did. no one deserves that, be the baby or her. she does have a conscience and quite honestly she isn't the same person she once was. shes broken down anyway, and any time in jail for her, there will be nothing left of her.
and im sorry if i hurt you guys and said some things that i said. i dont mean it its just reading some of these things are hard and they hurt. and you guys are all entitled to your opinions thats why your here.
i apologize.
i agree withh you 100%....i know this girl and she is a very very nice personn and for alll of you guys to judge her like this is not rightt.
Turkish

Oakdale, NY

#129 Sep 4, 2010
wooww wrote:
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i agree withh you 100%....i know this girl and she is a very very nice personn and for alll of you guys to judge her like this is not rightt.
I read all of these comments and annoyed who's name is bahar (i noe this b.c i myself is also related and i was able to figure it out) is cousins with zehra and i am very close to her to. She says that she was unconcious after giving birth but she was able to cut the cord. I gave birth and right after delivering your body gives a rush of hormones to help with the pain and you feel so relazed and renewed with energy. This girl is now 23 or 24 im not sure and is going to get married in 2 months. she did not get punished enough. i noe her too and yes she had a hard time for 2 years but thats it. and the community everyone talks about and how turkish people are so bad is not true. her father would not have killed her if she would have let them noe right away they would have made her get married thats all. now she is getting married to someone else and in extravegant wedding. its like nothing happened. She tells people she didnt noe what she was doing and that is not true she told me she went into the shower (b.c she did her research and planed this out n knew that water births are easier) she put a scissor by her to cut the cord and when she was done she told her mother she was going to her friends house. If she was not planning to kill this baby she would have told her mother she was going to her friends when the labor pains started. Soooo Bahar shut up you dont noe ****

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