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Concrete kills driver: Concrete kills driver on the northeast e...

There are 49 comments on the The Morning Call story from Mar 17, 2009, titled Concrete kills driver: Concrete kills driver on the northeast e.... In it, The Morning Call reports that:

A 13-inch chunk of concrete that flew Friday through the windshield of a car being driven by a Monroe County man on the Pennsylvania Turnpike in Carbon County , killing him, was kicked up out of damage in the ...

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Winston

Montréal, Canada

#1 Mar 17, 2009
Sounds like it was from the road not being properly maintained. Nice how they want to call it a freak accident. i have to maintain my car, brakes, tires....but I guess our roads can fall apart.
Betty

Brodheadsville, PA

#2 Mar 17, 2009
I see LAWSUIT
BigBadWolf

Philadelphia, PA

#3 Mar 17, 2009
Winston wrote:
Sounds like it was from the road not being properly maintained. Nice how they want to call it a freak accident. i have to maintain my car, brakes, tires....but I guess our roads can fall apart.
No worries.. obama has put aside 40 billion for just this.. Lets see how it is actually spent though.
wow

Allentown, PA

#5 Mar 17, 2009
Something smells fishy... They say the piece of concrete was 13 inches by six inches by six inches and weighed "over a pound." Wouldn't a chunk of concrete that size weigh at least 30 pounds? And why not just tell us what it weighed anyway. You'd think that anytime a motorist is killed by an airborne chunk of concrete one of the first things investigators would do would be to weigh it. You'd think, but that would probably be too logical for these "geniuses." There's probably a lot more to this story, and since this is Pennsylvania, we'll probably never get the full details. Thanks Keystone Cops!
amazed

Brecksville, OH

#6 Mar 17, 2009
God bless the family & the people who were in the car with him.
My opinion

Allentown, PA

#7 Mar 17, 2009
To think that we actually PAY to use this highway!
taz

Morrisville, PA

#8 Mar 17, 2009
how traggic, my heart goes out to his family and the passenger who had to witness all of this. my prayers are with you....
Proff Louie alternator

Bethlehem, PA

#9 Mar 17, 2009
That area has always been bad.After the freeze, all kinds of monster pot holes emerge and of course, that material has to go somewhere.I remember sig-zagging all over the highway trying to avoid blowing a tire or breaking an axle.Staties know this area and no-one does anything about it until a death occurs..go figure...

“God Bless Our Soldiers!!!!”

Since: Nov 07

Bethlehem

#10 Mar 17, 2009
That is a freak accident. How Sad!

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Bethlehem

#11 Mar 17, 2009
My friend was a victim of the "winter potholes" On Rt22 several years ago her brand new car hit a deep pothole and blew the tire and she lost control. There was a broken down semi on the side of the road and she zigzag around on 22 luckily didn't hit anyone, but she drove right under the side to the tractor trailer. In a miracle the seat broke recliner her back or she would have been splattered against the truck. It turned her car into a convertible. So anyway, she broke her collar bone, but she's fine today.
No she never sued - she said it was an accident and if the truck wasn't there she would went flying towards 378 and hit a pole and who knows. I'm thankful to have her.
God Bless the Family and friends
real life

Schnecksville, PA

#13 Mar 17, 2009
Guess our tolls will be going up to cover the lawsuit.
vet

Frisco, TX

#14 Mar 17, 2009
wow wrote:
Something smells fishy... They say the piece of concrete was 13 inches by six inches by six inches and weighed "over a pound." Wouldn't a chunk of concrete that size weigh at least 30 pounds? And why not just tell us what it weighed anyway. You'd think that anytime a motorist is killed by an airborne chunk of concrete one of the first things investigators would do would be to weigh it. You'd think, but that would probably be too logical for these "geniuses." There's probably a lot more to this story, and since this is Pennsylvania, we'll probably never get the full details. Thanks Keystone Cops!
there is a piece of that size missing from the onramp bridge that leads to the north bound side. it is directly over the right hand lane of the north bound side of the turnpike. it appears to be deteriation not damage from traffic.
Ben Dover

Lavallette, NJ

#15 Mar 17, 2009
You people are pathetic, always looking for someone to blame for an accident. The road could be maintained every minute of the day and this could still happen. The road experiences freeze-thaw cycles and no material can withstand an infinite number of cycles. Its called material engineering and its far beyond the intelligence of the usual lehigh valley native, the same ones who like to blame all our probs on Obama lol. You people would cry and complain if the road costed anymore to construct or maintain, but the minute something breaks you want someone's head. Yes, this was a tragic accident, but it doesn't matter how much money u throw at the problem u can't design a highway for freak accidents such as this one.
Staberdearth

Allentown, PA

#16 Mar 17, 2009
I could see this scenario happening from a near miss that I had on Route 70 westbound near Belle Vernon some years ago. A car in front of me lost its muffler and tail pipe. It slid right at me. I braced and the assembly must have slid smoothly and flatly under my car because I neither felt nor heard anything. I looked in the rear view mirror just in time to see the whole assembly hit a rut in the highway and kick up right into the grille of the vehicle behind me. A foot higher and it would have hit the windshield.
Wondering

Norristown, PA

#17 Mar 17, 2009
Finally, some decent writing in this paper.

My condolences to the victim's family.

It seems like we might need more money for infrastructure improvements. I guess guess fighting the two Bush wars has left our coffers depleted.

Oh well.
The Mind boggles

United States

#18 Mar 17, 2009
My opinion wrote:
To think that we actually PAY to use this highway!
Never thought of it that way... Makes wonder WHERE the toll$$ goes.....!
Crybabies

Allentown, PA

#19 Mar 17, 2009
Ben Dover wrote:
You people are pathetic, always looking for someone to blame for an accident. The road could be maintained every minute of the day and this could still happen. The road experiences freeze-thaw cycles and no material can withstand an infinite number of cycles. Its called material engineering and its far beyond the intelligence of the usual lehigh valley native, the same ones who like to blame all our probs on Obama lol. You people would cry and complain if the road costed anymore to construct or maintain, but the minute something breaks you want someone's head. Yes, this was a tragic accident, but it doesn't matter how much money u throw at the problem u can't design a highway for freak accidents such as this one.
I agree all a bunch of pathetic crybabies
John

United States

#20 Mar 17, 2009
Ben Dover wrote:
You people are pathetic, always looking for someone to blame for an accident. The road could be maintained every minute of the day and this could still happen. The road experiences freeze-thaw cycles and no material can withstand an infinite number of cycles. Its called material engineering and its far beyond the intelligence of the usual lehigh valley native, the same ones who like to blame all our probs on Obama lol. You people would cry and complain if the road costed anymore to construct or maintain, but the minute something breaks you want someone's head. Yes, this was a tragic accident, but it doesn't matter how much money u throw at the problem u can't design a highway for freak accidents such as this one.
I agree 100%. A good portion of the people in the area think because the have a computer they know everything what a bunch of morons.
RtrvrMom

Kansas City, MO

#21 Mar 17, 2009
Staberdearth wrote:
I could see this scenario happening from a near miss that I had on Route 70 westbound near Belle Vernon some years ago. A car in front of me lost its muffler and tail pipe. It slid right at me. I braced and the assembly must have slid smoothly and flatly under my car because I neither felt nor heard anything. I looked in the rear view mirror just in time to see the whole assembly hit a rut in the highway and kick up right into the grille of the vehicle behind me. A foot higher and it would have hit the windshield.
Yup, had a 2 ft piece of rebar bounce off of the highway, into my windshield,off of the frame and it took out my headrest. On 78.
Scariest thing that ever happened to me while driving.
Can't take your eyes off of the road for a second, even then there's no sure bet that you'll return home safely.
carelessfills

Lakewood, NJ

#22 Mar 17, 2009
Most likely the mcall's writer's and editor's ignorance as opposed to anyhting fishy. Their known for their sloppy reporting and wouldn't be smart enough to know intuitively that your ("wow's") estimate is right.
6"x6"x13" is more than a 1/4 cubic ft and over a 1/100th of a yard of concrete, and a yard is a little over a ton, so that is over 20 pounds. Your 30 pounds is a good engineering estimate, too.
Another rough estimate is it's about the size of two bowling balls.
If this size is right, it's hard to believe that another passing vehicle would lift it into someone windscreen.
wow wrote:
Something smells fishy... They say the piece of concrete was 13 inches by six inches by six inches and weighed "over a pound." Wouldn't a chunk of concrete that size weigh at least 30 pounds? And why not just tell us what it weighed anyway. You'd think that anytime a motorist is killed by an airborne chunk of concrete one of the first things investigators would do would be to weigh it. You'd think, but that would probably be too logical for these "geniuses." There's probably a lot more to this story, and since this is Pennsylvania, we'll probably never get the full details. Thanks Keystone Cops!

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