Arizona to get unaccompanied immigrant youths

There are 20 comments on the WGAL-TV Lancaster story from Jul 15, 2014, titled Arizona to get unaccompanied immigrant youths. In it, WGAL-TV Lancaster reports that:

That's where federal officials are expected to send dozens of unaccompanied children Tuesday -- and where protesters on both sides of the issue are expected to turn out.

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fYI

Corsicana, TX

#22 Jul 16, 2014
something from Fox ...
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/07/16/flow-...
note: the assertion may or may not be true, the immigrants don't line up to be counted.

Short of something like Hadrian's wall I doubt that the border can be closed ... note: Hadrian's was about 70 miles, to close the Southern US-Mexico border it would be about 2000 miles. The question is Can we afford to build it or, stated differently, Can we afford not to build it?
shakey

Warrenville, IL

#23 Jul 16, 2014
Betrayed wrote:
Future terrorists, contraband, drugs, gangs, and even Asian diseases will enter the US through the Canadian border as well as through the air via airlines. The Chikunguya entered Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina via air from Haiti.
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The US has just given permission to Costa Rica, Argentina, Dominican, Republic, and others to kick out the Nicaraguan, Paraguayan, and Haitian from those respective countries.
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As always, if you China or India physically next to the US, there will be 30 million chinese or India in the US. Canada is doing well because its economy is 110% based and integrated with the US without the rigorousity and regulations third world countries faced when the export to the US. Now California and Florida are producing almost the same agriculture that Central America and the Caribbean produce thus denying those countries an export market.
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As always, natural resources are taken out of third world countries and they are pushed to consume the finished products of first world countries and somehow, the third world countries must find the finances and products to trade.
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Welfare takers or remittances of the dollar or job takers or violence or drugs or diseases or hostile cultures were about the same complaints the white as*holes said of their German, Jews, and Italian cousins. Nothing new. It is all predictable.
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As always, the Hispanic should not vote for the GOP ever. No votes for the KKK, Gypsy, rednecks, hillbillies, and Aryan supremacy. And those pseudoHispanics who think that hating Hispanic will open the white doors to them are truly mistaken. Limbo is for you brother nobody wants you! FK Paul Rodriguez, FK Limbaugh, FK O'Reilly and his hole and FK Dobbs and his fecal sack!
You evidently have not traveled the US much....the Asian explosion has already happened, and in case you haven't heard so are many of those diseases which were eradicated in the 50's and 60's, like polio, leprosy and the like.

Also, If you lose your job some day, I hope it's not to a "white as*hole" as you put it, but rather to an illegal or an offshore worker and maybe you'll understand. When your company closes down in the US because they decided to outsource everything, then tell us how you feel. Denying them and export market? Are you kidding me! Go to a dollar store and look at the labels to see where the majority of the products are from...India and China.
Really

Las Vegas, NV

#24 Jul 16, 2014
ohbama and holder at their best. Come to America, we will take care of you. Law breakers everywhere are making a joke out of the U.S. And the ones that want these illegal aliens here should have to pay for them.
Lets put out the word that ALL TERRORISTS are welcomed here too.
IMPEACH OHBAMA AND FIRE HOLDER. They are criminals with titles.
Planning and scheming behind the American publics back.
FKG cowards and you idiots voted for this worthless, lying, pos ohbama. How do like the change? STUPID
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#25 Jul 16, 2014
shakey wrote:
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as americans, the "gun huggers" have that right. the illegals do not have the right to invade this country. you might feel differently if your state were being bombarded with illegals.
It must have been a proud moment for you when your beloved "gun huggers" threatened a bus full of kids headed to a YMCA camp. Somehow I get the feeling that if somebody shoved a gun in your kid's face you may feel differently. Maybe not.

Since: Mar 09

The Left Coast

#26 Jul 16, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
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It must have been a proud moment for you when your beloved "gun huggers" threatened a bus full of kids headed to a YMCA camp. Somehow I get the feeling that if somebody shoved a gun in your kid's face you may feel differently. Maybe not.
Can't tell if you hate guns or love Young Men's Christian Association.
FYI

Corsicana, TX

#28 Jul 16, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
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It would only apply to people who come in the future.
One thing that people overlook in all of this is that even without this law, they would still be protected because people from El Salvador and Honduras have Temporary Protected Status (TPS). That means people from these countries are allowed to stay in the US and are provided with work permits. El Salvador has been under TPS since 2001 and Honduras has been under it since 1998. They were granted this status because of the poor conditions in those countries at the time. Clearly the conditions are much worse now.
Of course the usual suspects will blame Obama for no reason, but the TPS laws were part of the Immigration Act of 1990.
I suspect you are correct on the ex post facto, anyway there will likely be legal action if there is a reachback. What are you doing on Topix you have a brain, and are not Zoro's mimic like most here.
by the way:
The Senate bill was introduced 7/15/2014 as S 2611 and has been Read twice and referred to the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. As of 7/16 there has been no summary and the text is not yet available but will be, eventually at https://beta.congress.gov/legislation . All three co-sposnors are Republican.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#30 Jul 16, 2014
FYI wrote:
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I suspect you are correct on the ex post facto, anyway there will likely be legal action if there is a reachback. What are you doing on Topix you have a brain, and are not Zoro's mimic like most here.
by the way:
The Senate bill was introduced 7/15/2014 as S 2611 and has been Read twice and referred to the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. As of 7/16 there has been no summary and the text is not yet available but will be, eventually at https://beta.congress.gov/legislation . All three co-sposnors are Republican.
It is refreshing to see a thoughtful person on Topix.

That law would expedite things, but it is a drop in the bucket. There are currently 220 immigration judges in the US handling the 375,000 asylum cases that are already in court proceedings. 40 more judges may help some, but hopefully the current media obsession with these kids does not cause delays in the other cases that they never noticed.
ronnie

Draper, UT

#31 Jul 16, 2014
If Joe's in charge, those kids will be screaming for there PARENT'S TO bring them back... He's a good old disciplinarian, which these people don't have equipped inside of there brains....morality doesn't exist in this culture... BTW 15% of Hondoras population live here illegally..... WTF.
Deo Vindice

Sacramento, CA

#33 Jul 16, 2014
Immigrant youths????
That's a new liberal buzz-phrase for illegals.

Regardless of their age, they are all damn criminals.

Border states, especially California are in a severe drought situation, and illegal Mexicans are instrumental in depleting our precious water supply.
Water ist being wasted on them.

Illegal Mexicans contribute only crime and diseases to the USA.

Hard working tax payers are supporting these scum.

Deport them all, regardless of age or gender.

If democRATS (aka liberals) want illegal Mexicans, why don't they put them up in their own homes and support them?
shakey

Warrenville, IL

#34 Jul 17, 2014
Memo From Turner wrote:
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It must have been a proud moment for you when your beloved "gun huggers" threatened a bus full of kids headed to a YMCA camp. Somehow I get the feeling that if somebody shoved a gun in your kid's face you may feel differently. Maybe not.
I hope you would feel differently if a couple of day laborers broke into your house and raped the female members of your household. If you're going to argue with me, do it intelligently. I never said I like the idea of toting guns. It's a constitutional right. If you don't like the laws, try to change them.
spud

Gap, PA

#35 Jul 17, 2014
Sheriff Joe. We need you now. Get out there and intercept those busses. Take everyone to the tent camp, give them some nice fresh underwear (pink of course) and then put them to work finishing the border fence.
Justin

United States

#37 Jul 17, 2014
So folks are risking everying and fleeing to the U.S. in an effort to escape gang violence and seek economic opportunity?

Even if they were welcomed with open arms, they'll find the mean streets of Los Angeles, Chicago, and Atlanta a mixed bag. Hell, that cartel member who bullied them back in Mexico City may be living in the house next door.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#38 Jul 17, 2014
shakey wrote:
<quoted text>
I hope you would feel differently if a couple of day laborers broke into your house and raped the female members of your household. If you're going to argue with me, do it intelligently. I never said I like the idea of toting guns. It's a constitutional right. If you don't like the laws, try to change them.
Incoherent.
Betrayed

North Augusta, SC

#39 Jul 17, 2014
shakey wrote:
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as americans, the "gun huggers" have that right. the illegals do not have the right to invade this country. you might feel differently if your state were being bombarded with illegals.
I come to this country illegally with the same rights that your navy dumps nuclear waste in my ocean, with the same rights you armed forces overthrow my governments, with the same rights you NSA spies, collects, and track my calls, movements, overhead pictures, and electronic wiring. With the same rights that your government blockades my government and forces us to vote with you in the UN. With the same rights that you launch unwelcome internet attacks and sabotage my electrical and telephone networks. With the same rights that your government uses intense short waves radios to disrupt weather patterns and induced droughts. With the same rights your f*king government contaminated the biosphere with radionuclides with the hundreds of nuclear tests it conducted with total disregard for humanity.
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You are everywhere even where you are not welcome (Navy) and yet you don't want everywhere in you! FK YOU!!!
shakey

Warrenville, IL

#40 Jul 21, 2014
you are free to go elsewhere if you don't like our actions. i know, if i had the same disdain for this country as you do, this would be the last country i'd want to live in. feel free to go to russia or ukraine or iraq or iran and see if you are treated with compassion as an illegal. you would have been shot crossing over the border.
Betrayed

North Augusta, SC

#41 Jul 25, 2014
shakey wrote:
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You evidently have not traveled the US much....the Asian explosion has already happened, and in case you haven't heard so are many of those diseases which were eradicated in the 50's and 60's, like polio, leprosy and the like.
Also, If you lose your job some day, I hope it's not to a "white as*hole" as you put it, but rather to an illegal or an offshore worker and maybe you'll understand. When your company closes down in the US because they decided to outsource everything, then tell us how you feel. Denying them and export market? Are you kidding me! Go to a dollar store and look at the labels to see where the majority of the products are from...India and China.
Understand this and understand it quickly: Illegal are not taking jobs that pay enough to support a family. The immigrant who are taking middle class job are the college graduates from India, China, South Korea, and UK. They are engineers, scientists, lawyers, accountants, doctors, specialists, technicians, teachers, professors, etc. They are brought not only by the HB1 systems but also by overstaying their visitor visas. Those Asian that don't sufficient education end up opening 7/11, motels, hotels, restaurants, gas stations, etc. and they hire only their own kind!
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The illegal immigrant from southern border, as you know, do a lot agricultural (peaches, broccoli, lettuce, etc.), landscaping, house-hotel clean up, retirement homes clean up, clerks, stock boys, sewer treatment, roads/parks maintenance, meat processing, farms maintenance (horses, pigs, chickens, goats, etc.), dishwashing (restaurants), laundry, etc.
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If you think these jobs is what pushing the US nationals to attend colleges, universities, and technical schools, you are freaking mistaking. The US nationals are seeking better paying jobs given the inflation, insurance requirements, family's needs, sustenance, transportation, shelter, energy, and entertainment requirements of the Saxon nationals in the US. Many of these jobs are being sent abroad because abroad has cheaper labor, lax environmental requirements, less legislative requirements, simpler and cheaper taxing systems, and new markets/customers abroad. WTO, NAFTA, CAFTA-DR, and other free trade allowed the antipatriotic rich move their investments abroad leaving a job vacuum of middle class jobs (manufacturing and research) in the US. So if you are mad, it should be with your top tier oligarchy! Unless you love to be payed $4.00/hours for 48 hours/week with no insurance, no benefits, no pension, and no accountability to the IRS.
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As you may read this, I am very well traveled in the US! I haven't been to the Dakotas to witness the damage fracking is doing to their geology and their little towns. Oklahoma for sure is getting a dose of miniquakes.
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Betrayed

North Augusta, SC

#42 Jul 25, 2014
shakey wrote:
you are free to go elsewhere if you don't like our actions. i know, if i had the same disdain for this country as you do, this would be the last country i'd want to live in. feel free to go to russia or ukraine or iraq or iran and see if you are treated with compassion as an illegal. you would have been shot crossing over the border.
This why idiotism + wrong information = fecal matter. You are in Ukraine (NATO), you are in Irak (biggest embassy in the world flying drones everywhere, You are in Iran (embargo). Do you have have so much earwax or cataract that you can see YOU ARE EVERYWHERE FKING WHERE? Go home and then scream foreigners go home. Get your fking southern command and your African command out!!!!
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Europe has millions of Arabs, African, Asian, and Latin American. Costa Rica has thousands of Nicaraguan, Argentina has thousands of Paraguayans, Dominican, Republic has 1.4 millions illegal Haitian, South Africa has thousands of Zimbawee, etc. Lots of countries have illegal immigrants and many of them allow their illegal to work, to own, to consume, to move, and even to form their own associations with their own newspapers and sympathetic reporters, and even their own radio/TV stations. And the US is punishing the receiving countries from taking any actions that leads to purging or deportation or diminished rights!
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Fking idiot you have no idea what the rest of the real world is going through! Egotistical, maniac, selfish, world-revolves around you as*hole! Don't defecate crap in this thread ignorant!!
shakey

Warrenville, IL

#44 Jul 28, 2014
Betrayed wrote:
<quoted text>
Understand this and understand it quickly: Illegal are not taking jobs that pay enough to support a family. The immigrant who are taking middle class job are the college graduates from India, China, South Korea, and UK. They are engineers, scientists, lawyers, accountants, doctors, specialists, technicians, teachers, professors, etc. They are brought not only by the HB1 systems but also by overstaying their visitor visas. Those Asian that don't sufficient education end up opening 7/11, motels, hotels, restaurants, gas stations, etc. and they hire only their own kind!
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The illegal immigrant from southern border, as you know, do a lot agricultural (peaches, broccoli, lettuce, etc.), landscaping, house-hotel clean up, retirement homes clean up, clerks, stock boys, sewer treatment, roads/parks maintenance, meat processing, farms maintenance (horses, pigs, chickens, goats, etc.), dishwashing (restaurants), laundry, etc.
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If you think these jobs is what pushing the US nationals to attend colleges, universities, and technical schools, you are freaking mistaking. The US nationals are seeking better paying jobs given the inflation, insurance requirements, family's needs, sustenance, transportation, shelter, energy, and entertainment requirements of the Saxon nationals in the US. Many of these jobs are being sent abroad because abroad has cheaper labor, lax environmental requirements, less legislative requirements, simpler and cheaper taxing systems, and new markets/customers abroad. WTO, NAFTA, CAFTA-DR, and other free trade allowed the antipatriotic rich move their investments abroad leaving a job vacuum of middle class jobs (manufacturing and research) in the US. So if you are mad, it should be with your top tier oligarchy! Unless you love to be payed $4.00/hours for 48 hours/week with no insurance, no benefits, no pension, and no accountability to the IRS.
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As you may read this, I am very well traveled in the US! I haven't been to the Dakotas to witness the damage fracking is doing to their geology and their little towns. Oklahoma for sure is getting a dose of miniquakes.
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in case you didn't realize it, einstein, they are taking away jobs from unskilled LEGAL immigrants who want to become middle class citizens and those are the only immigrants i will root for. they came here the right way and that shows me that they started out the right way and will obey our laws because they came here legally.
shakey

Warrenville, IL

#45 Jul 28, 2014
Betrayed wrote:
<quoted text>
This why idiotism + wrong information = fecal matter. You are in Ukraine (NATO), you are in Irak (biggest embassy in the world flying drones everywhere, You are in Iran (embargo). Do you have have so much earwax or cataract that you can see YOU ARE EVERYWHERE FKING WHERE? Go home and then scream foreigners go home. Get your fking southern command and your African command out!!!!
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Europe has millions of Arabs, African, Asian, and Latin American. Costa Rica has thousands of Nicaraguan, Argentina has thousands of Paraguayans, Dominican, Republic has 1.4 millions illegal Haitian, South Africa has thousands of Zimbawee, etc. Lots of countries have illegal immigrants and many of them allow their illegal to work, to own, to consume, to move, and even to form their own associations with their own newspapers and sympathetic reporters, and even their own radio/TV stations. And the US is punishing the receiving countries from taking any actions that leads to purging or deportation or diminished rights!
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Fking idiot you have no idea what the rest of the real world is going through! Egotistical, maniac, selfish, world-revolves around you as*hole! Don't defecate crap in this thread ignorant!!
i may not know everything about everything as you think you do, but i do know that you are a very angry little person and can't argue without getting crazy or vulgar. i will post where i please and i will state my opinion as much as i please. i don't need your permission. you're one of the illegals who should have been stopped before getting in.
Memo From Turner

Mountain View, CA

#46 Jul 28, 2014
shakey wrote:
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in case you didn't realize it, einstein, they are taking away jobs from unskilled LEGAL immigrants who want to become middle class citizens and those are the only immigrants i will root for. they came here the right way and that shows me that they started out the right way and will obey our laws because they came here legally.
It is so touching to see your concern for the poor LEGAL immigrants. Who knew you cared so much?

Somehow though I get the feeling that if you saw one on the street you would just just label them as illegal and treat them with disdain.

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