NY man trying to help another dies in...

NY man trying to help another dies in bridge fall

There are 39 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jun 29, 2009, titled NY man trying to help another dies in bridge fall. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Police say a New York man running to the aid of another motorist fell to his death from a bridge, apparently because he didn't know there was a large gap between lanes.

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Dover, PA

#24 Jul 1, 2009
I think the EMT/Firefighter should pause and take a look at some other things here. From a psychological stand point that is. Was this man full of such zeal that it cost him his life...meaning, did he fail to "assess his resources", check the "safety of his surroundings" etc. prior to acting?

I trained crisis management and can tell you there are times when a logical analysis of a situation should result in non-action. Say what you will in response, but I just have a gut feeling this man was acting on adrenaline, which can often lead to dire results.

So, you may blast me for being callous, which I am not. I think his death would be in vain if other emergency workers failed to learn from his fatal mistake.
BGHOZ

United States

#25 Jul 1, 2009
BGHOZ wrote:
<quoted text> I suppose so, but I do not endorse or rejoice in another person risking their life to save the other in the act of compassion as an agenda. I have alot of upsetness (how californian)about this incendent. I believe that this individual was in ernest...and
lost his life trying to save another...
I left something out in this reply: It should have read that I do not endorse or rejoice in another person risking their life (and died as a result)to save the other...sorry 'bout that.
Dede Raver

Dayton, NY

#26 Jul 4, 2009
Tony E Neuman writes:"17 feet is a pretty big divide. You would think the guy would have been more careful in the dark in an unfamiliar setting. And just parking his car on the bridge? What about the drivers approaching his car on his side of the bridge? Extremely unwise all the way around. "
Tony, most of the people reading these comments personally knew Kevin. I grew up with him. Instead of focusing on "mistakes" you think happened without even being there on the scene, please allow us to remember Kevin for who he was. You missed the whole point, he didn't worry about his safety, he cared about others and died that way and I love him for it. God ran out of Guardian angels and needed extra help. If you haven't read the Parable of the Good Samaritan according to Luke, please open your mind, forget about "self-preservation." I truly believe you meant well when you posted but someday someone like Kevin may risk his/her life and save you and you will read the Parable. The children he saved are now 22 and 23 years old! The rule was NOT to go in the burning car without training like he and my brother did. Thank God they went. Kevin's life was not wasted, he will be out there helping people everyday so why second guess, we are all safe in the hands of God.
Kevin we love you!
Dede Raver
GaryGroux

Cornell, MI

#27 Jul 7, 2009
Dede Raver wrote:
You missed the whole point, he didn't worry about his safety
Good thing he didn't fall on some pregnant woman or some children or a elderly woman pushing a stroller with some children in it.

“Still me. ”

Since: May 07

Hudson, NY

#28 Jul 9, 2009
GaryGroux wrote:
<quoted text>
Good thing he didn't fall on some pregnant woman or some children or a elderly woman pushing a stroller with some children in it.
You are so clueless. This is not a subject for stupid posts. A man died doing something for a total stranger. This could have been your family member that he was trying to help. Hope to God that you are not the one that is in trouble and everyone passes you by for fear of their own life.

“Still me. ”

Since: May 07

Hudson, NY

#29 Jul 9, 2009
a bigger picture wrote:
I think the EMT/Firefighter should pause and take a look at some other things here. From a psychological stand point that is. Was this man full of such zeal that it cost him his life...meaning, did he fail to "assess his resources", check the "safety of his surroundings" etc. prior to acting?
I trained crisis management and can tell you there are times when a logical analysis of a situation should result in non-action. Say what you will in response, but I just have a gut feeling this man was acting on adrenaline, which can often lead to dire results.
So, you may blast me for being callous, which I am not. I think his death would be in vain if other emergency workers failed to learn from his fatal mistake.
Or was he just concerned for the motorist that for a split second he forgot he was in unfamiliar surrounding and just acted on instinct.
GaryGroux

United States

#30 Jul 10, 2009
tmcnjgirl wrote:
<quoted text>

1) A man died doing something for a total stranger.

2) This could have been your family member that he was trying to help.

3) Hope to God that you are not the one that is in trouble

4) and everyone passes you by for fear of their own life.
1) No, he died doing something for himself. The dead guy never actually did anything to or for the motorist.

2) It could have been worse, the motorist could have crashed into a school full of bunnies.

3) Hope is not a process.

4) I'd rather they simply dial 911 and send help, they don't have to jump off a bridge and kill themselves, that'd be going a little overboard.
charlie brown

Minneapolis, MN

#31 Jul 10, 2009
NOPT wrote:
<quoted text>Dude, they should be thanking you for the tax money paid wages, benefits and equipment, instead of having to work a real job like in a powder coat factory pulling hot metal parts off of endless racks as they come out of an oven on a conveyor belt for 8.65 an hour, no benefits and one 20 minute break per shift.
You call that a real job. Go to school and make something of yourself and quit whining.
charlie brown

Minneapolis, MN

#32 Jul 10, 2009
I hope he is remembered for his heroic act, not his unfortunate fate. My prayers go out to his family.
GaryGroux

Escanaba, MI

#33 Jul 10, 2009
charlie brown wrote:
I hope he is remembered for his heroic act, not his unfortunate fate. My prayers go out to his family.
It would only be a heroic act, if he knew he had to jump 19 feet across to another highway, had the reasonable ability to do so, but failed anyway.
Heroic

Saint Paul, MN

#34 Jul 10, 2009
May he rest in eternal peace.
Heroic

Saint Paul, MN

#35 Jul 10, 2009
GaryGroux wrote:
<quoted text>It would only be a heroic act, if he knew he had to jump 19 feet across to another highway, had the reasonable ability to do so, but failed anyway.
Interesting that you attempt to articulate heroism, GaryGroux.

“Still me. ”

Since: May 07

Hudson, NY

#36 Jul 12, 2009
GaryGroux wrote:
<quoted text>It would only be a heroic act, if he knew he had to jump 19 feet across to another highway, had the reasonable ability to do so, but failed anyway.
He didn't even know the two highways didn't connect being as there are no lights on it.

And again hope to God that you never have someone wasting precious time in helping you by waiting for a 911 call to go in. They are very quick to respond here but if the caller can help before they arrive then I surely would appreciate that more than them just standing there watching me hang upside down in an overturned vehicle.
GaryGroux

Escanaba, MI

#37 Jul 14, 2009
tmcnjgirl wrote:
<quoted text> I surely would appreciate that more than them just standing there watching me hang upside down in an overturned vehicle.
But, wouldn't you want to be upright while watching someone jump to their death for no reason?
U so wrong

El Paso, TX

#38 Jul 14, 2009
GaryGroux wrote:
<quoted text>But, wouldn't you want to be upright while watching someone jump to their death for no reason?
GaryGroux, every thing you have said about this
is complete nonsense and you are nothing but
a F&#@$!G moron and total idiot!

“Still me. ”

Since: May 07

Hudson, NY

#39 Jul 14, 2009
GaryGroux wrote:
<quoted text>But, wouldn't you want to be upright while watching someone jump to their death for no reason?
May God have mercy on your narrow mindedness. By the way I am also trained for rescue and I would certainly do what I could for them. Even if it meant giving my life.
GaryGroux

United States

#40 Jul 15, 2009
tmcnjgirl wrote:
<quoted text> Even if it meant giving my life.
Certainly, those graves won't fill themselves.

“9/11 inside job”

Since: May 08

Saugerties New York

#41 Jul 15, 2009
GaryGroux wrote:
<quoted text>Certainly, those graves won't fill themselves.
Your mother and father must hate you to bring you up so disgusting.

“Still me. ”

Since: May 07

Hudson, NY

#42 Jul 16, 2009
GaryGroux wrote:
<quoted text>Certainly, those graves won't fill themselves.
I guess you feel that way about 9/11 too.

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