Local conservative Lutherans preparing for change

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Conservatives in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America voted during the weekend to spend a year laying a course that could lead their group to split with the denomination.

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John Vonzeit

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"...Hess, who lives in Mount Joy Township, Adams County.
"I was very proud of what the ELCA did in Minneapolis (for gay clergy) and believe they were guided by the Holy Spirit."

Frankly I am surprised that Mr. Hess feels the Holy Spirit 'guided' the ECLA? The Holy Spirit, being the "Holy Spirit" surely would not have suggested they go against God's Word.

Sounds more like they got their guidance from Obama instead...

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God's Word is "Love your neighbor", not exclude them. The Holy Spirit IS working.
mayday

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The ELCA heresy has fractured relationships with those who are dedicated to the word of God in scripture. How sad that the ELCA has fallen into a bottomless pit. Thank God CORE will be the agent of reform for the faithful. It is hard to believe a Christian fellowship such as ELCA could be taken in by the contemporary idol of sex. The family in the US is already suffering the effects of the worship of sex. Marriage has been sacrificed at the alter of unrestrained sex. ELCA declares that committed, consensual, lifelong sexual relationships are sufficient in the eyes of ELCA Lutherans. According to this logic it means I can form a relationship with my dog according to this formula. My dog is committed to me, consents to whatever I ask, and is with me for life. Woof, woof.
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Love without truth is a lie.
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How can any Christian reconcile homosexuality with "thou shall not commit adultery". The Bible clearly defines marriage as a union between a man and a woman. It also clearly says any sex outside of marriage is adultery. How any church who claims it follows the Bible can do this is beyond me. I can understand government approval, but not a church that claims to follow Jesus.
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Why don't you people put your energy to something more useful like ending world hunger rather than believing in fairy tales told in a book
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ELCA member wrote:
God's Word is "Love your neighbor", not exclude them. The Holy Spirit IS working.
Tis true to love your neighbor regardless of their choices; however, this does not mean they should lead a church.

I Corinthians 6:9 "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites.."

The Bible clearly states the attributes of a leader in a church. Please see I Timothy 3:
"Here is a trustworthy saying: If anyone sets his heart on being an overseer,he desires a noble task. 2 Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 4He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him with proper respect. 5(If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God's church?) 6He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. 7He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil's trap."

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