Politicians take a close look at raw milk use in Franklin Count...

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Mark Nolt has become an outlaw because he sells milk. The Newville farmer who drives a horse and buggy has become the focal point of an East Coast controversy about selling raw milk products.

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May 18, 2008
 
On one hand, the FDA will not/has not released to Congress the names of Chinese companies that supplied contaminated ingredients for Heparin that has killed 19 Americans so far. Our illustrious politicians have not pounced on the FDA bureaucracy to force the govt. agency to divulge the names of the Chinese companies selling the deadly Heparin here. Compare that situation with farmer Nolt's selling raw milk in Pennsylvania. Where are Rep. Shuster, Arlen Specter, and other elected pols on the tainted Heparin issue?
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May 18, 2008
 
Just one more needless example of Big Brother watching over our shoulder. Mr. Nolt should have the right to to do what he wishes with the products that are a result of his hard work as long the raw milk does not exceed established bacteria thresholds. The national trend in foods is for farm fresh products. If there is truly a safety concern then products should simply be labeled for sale with warnings like tobacco products have. Consumers can decide for themselves and farmers are able to collect there fair share of profit rather than always loosing out to the big dairy processors. And taking his equipment! What's that about? Is the Dept. of Ag taking lessons from the Liquor Control Board?
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May 18, 2008
 
Just another day in the People's Republic of Pennsylvania.
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May 18, 2008
 
The government has overstepped. Taking Nolt's equipment is wrong. Citizens must never underestimate the corruption of the Harrisburg Harlots.
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May 18, 2008
 
I grew up on farms in a few different pa communities and we always drank raw milk, sometimes before it ever hit the cooling/storage tank. I can tell you from personal experience that if the raw milk comes from the proper farms that take all the precautions on cleanliness and health of their cows that raw nilk is safe and healthy. What is good bacteria are being destroyed when we heat it to kill harmful bacteria? I was hardly ever sick as a child and I believe part of that was due to the raw milk and other "farm fresh" foods that were 90% of our daily diet, maybe if we as a country would get back to some of our "old roots" we wouldn't be the fattest, most sickly (ie, diabetes, high blood pressure, heart dieses, stroke) advanced country in the world. I say let those who prove that they can safely produce raw milk and ALL it's products do it and then let the consumer choose. I will urge my state legislaters to support this bill when it is presented and senda message to "big brother" that he needs to back off, enough is enough already
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May 18, 2008
 
This small market is no place for government to be sticking it's nose. Caveat emptor. Any politician involved in this scandel needs to get a life.

But, if they insist, why don't they do it like they do for the big boys: Let the raw milk producers "self-regulate" and hope for the best.

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May 18, 2008
 
Public Opinion wrote wrote:
A gallon of raw milk sells for about $6 and offers some small farmers a chance at a decent living, Stoltzfus said.
6 bucks a gallon...is this an accurate quote?

I might believe that "organic" raw milk might be that much...but Im certain I've heard "raw" sold far cheaper - I'd think it would be cheaper than processed?
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May 18, 2008
 
Nolt's milk is "organic".
Alonzo

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May 18, 2008
 
Nolt is the victim of an oppressive, out-of-control state government. Confiscating his equipment was heavy-handed and reminds one of the jack-booted regimes run by dictators in parts of the world.

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May 18, 2008
 
Neighbor wrote:
Nolt's milk is "organic".
Thanks - as I suspected.

I think the PO really needs to publish a correction here. The price is an important distinguishing detail that leaves the reader with a mis-characterization of the issue.

This is about RAW milk, plain and simple. The "organic" aspect is a whole other ballgame, and mostly tangential to the issue at hand.

I hope this was just an oversight on Mr Hooks part and not an attempt to mis-inform.

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May 18, 2008
 
Arent what "they" are worried about here is the (small-c) family corporate farm starting to sell raw milk at the retail level?...for CHEAPER than store prices? After all, the milk doesnt have to be transported, processed and transported back to market - all that adds cost. Why would it be more expensive? Thats why I questioned the 6 dollar a gallon figure - that sounds so glaringly wrong.

For this story to make sense - we need to know how much a gallon or raw milk sells for.

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May 18, 2008
 
Ever see the little PBS program about cheesemaking...I think it was regional, maybe about the amish.

Anyway - at one point, they show the cheesemaker-man reaching into a vat of cheese-in-the-making. Sticks his arm in there all the way past his elbow.

Ahhh - I thought, "This must be the famous Amish Arm Hair Cheese..."
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May 18, 2008
 
Let's see, Nolt did not renew his permit from 2006 so he could break the law by making soft cheeses. He apparently, is to dumb to speak for himself, so he has Stoltfus make "whine" for him, yet Brechbill on the other hand has no problem complying with the law. Buy your raw milk and cheese from Brechbill or the other raw milk permitted producers, so you don't become stupid like Nolt.

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May 18, 2008
 
Jim Light wrote:
Let's see, Nolt did not renew his permit from 2006 so he could break the law by making soft cheeses.
Did you read the story?

Even if he had the permit - he would be in violation of the law by making soft cheeses. The existence or renewal has would not allow him to make soft cheese.

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May 18, 2008
 
Jim Light wrote:
He apparently, is to dumb to speak for himself, so he has Stoltfus make "whine" for him.
Did you read the story?

His Mennonite faith makes him uncomfortable drawing attention to himself...hence his spokesman.

I think your comments are disrespectful to the Mennonite community...who I guess you think are "Stupid"

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May 18, 2008
 
So - whats the big problem with "soft cheeses"? Are they subject to greater spoilage/health concerns?
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May 18, 2008
 
Yes I did. The point is he did not renew his permit and is now out of business with no equipment. Smart choice! Without the permit he is in violation selling raw milk and any raw milk products he was previously selling. Hope he has lots of savings for horse feed.
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May 18, 2008
 
It has nothing to do with the Mennonite community, it is about someone openly violating the law. If he robbed a bank, I guess you wouldn't want to prosecute because it would be disrespectful to the Mennonite community.

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May 18, 2008
 
Jim Light wrote:
Yes I did. The point is he did not renew his permit and is now out of business with no equipment. Smart choice! Without the permit he is in violation selling raw milk and any raw milk products he was previously selling. Hope he has lots of savings for horse feed.
The point is - you mis-characterized the reason he did not have the permit.

Im going to resist saying too much more here...The reporting on this story seems flawed and incomplete...

Like:- Are soft cheeses specifically prohibited, or just not covered by the permit? The reporter on says "not allowed" - which could mean a lot of things. How do you make soft cheese?- someone must have a permit...somewhere!!! Is soft-cheese illegal...harmful to the public?

I withhold judgment until a more accurate story emerges.

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May 18, 2008
 
Jim Light wrote:
It has nothing to do with the Mennonite community, it is about someone openly violating the law. If he robbed a bank, I guess you wouldn't want to prosecute because it would be disrespectful to the Mennonite community.
You are a confused person. I explained why he is using a spokesman. That has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not he should be prosecuted. I wouldn't be surprised if a Mennonite Bank Robber would do the exact same thing for the same reasons.

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