the average iq by race

Since: Apr 12

Glassboro, NJ

#23 Apr 22, 2013
Mooseman wrote:
Well if race realy does have corelation to an iq i must be some misfit being a Mestizo(cherokee french and scottish) acording to what i researched my iq should be in the low to mid 90s but its 115 and considering my envirement i grew up in which was low income housing non present father an abusive mother and frequent drug abuse as an adolescent most of my early role models were thugs and i fit in the mexicans because i looked like them thick hair and very tan skin as well as some facial features so i think this whole iq shit just goes to brain devlopement race and envirement have little to do with it
The correlation between race and IQ is actually moderately weak. So don't be bothered by any of this. It's just a pattern that was noticed. Race holds more correlation with the other variables that can affect IQ. Also, the average only tells part of the story. There is always deviation from that average. Furthermore, IQ is supposed to be a guage of potential. A person can easily exceed potential, or never meet it, making the measurement rather meaningless in the long run... though fun to think about.
Larry Dixon

Brooklyn, NY

#24 Apr 23, 2013
Your 115 point I.Q dropped 30pts for spelling "envirement" twice!!

Since: Apr 12

Riverton, NJ

#25 May 4, 2013
Larry Dixon wrote:
Your 115 point I.Q dropped 30pts for spelling "envirement" twice!!
Well that wasn't rude and uncalled for. Last I checked I had somehow managed to have an IQ of 120... Let me tell you, I was completely shocked when I received those results, because I have several shortcomings, one of which is that my ability to spell is very much subpar... My poor excuse for this is that I'm a math geek and I love working with numbers not letters lol. Luckily for me, the test only has a small proportion of questions related to spelling. A lot of it is logic and patterns, where I tend to excel. And struggling with spelling doesn't mean i don't know my words. If you give me a set of scrambled letters meant to spell out one word, with no excess letters, like they do in some questions of the test, I can figure that out... it might take a moment but I'll do it. lol

Anyway the main point before any of my rambling is... Wow... rude!
bill

Medford, NJ

#26 May 4, 2013
Haruko57 wrote:
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The correlation between race and IQ is actually moderately weak. So don't be bothered by any of this. It's just a pattern that was noticed. Race holds more correlation with the other variables that can affect IQ. Also, the average only tells part of the story. There is always deviation from that average. Furthermore, IQ is supposed to be a guage of potential. A person can easily exceed potential, or never meet it, making the measurement rather meaningless in the long run... though fun to think about.
Race and I.q. have a strong link. Jews and Asians are smart. So many are doctors,lawyers and scientists. Those with a lower IQ tend to be manual laborers,clerks etc.
The races and people in general are not equal! Some are better at sports some are better at using their smarts. Just look how many athletes are black. How many scientists are Jews. You are born with abilities. Charles Barkley would never be a Nobel scientist. Albert Einstein would never be an N.B.A. player.

Since: Apr 12

Riverton, NJ

#27 May 4, 2013
bill wrote:
<quoted text>
Race and I.q. have a strong link. Jews and Asians are smart. So many are doctors,lawyers and scientists. Those with a lower IQ tend to be manual laborers,clerks etc.
The races and people in general are not equal! Some are better at sports some are better at using their smarts. Just look how many athletes are black. How many scientists are Jews. You are born with abilities. Charles Barkley would never be a Nobel scientist. Albert Einstein would never be an N.B.A. player.
Fine then. Find me the study that gives the clear numbers of this strong correlation, and the significance of the variable. Show me the ANOVA chart, the pure statistical analysis, the probabilities, t-values, F-values, prove to me there is no multicollinearity with other variables to undermine the theory. For example,based on a study, brain size and iq have a correlation of about 0.4, a moderately weak correlation that is interpreted as brain size having some indication to IQ, however, there are several factors concerning brain size, from genetics to the human error in how we measure brain size, that make this theory quite questionable. Statistically, the study in which the brain size correlation is found, is rejected due to the multicollinearity with race,heritability, and genetics, which are included in the analysis. There was another set of studies in the late 60's that produced a correlation of between .12 to .30 between skin tone and IQ, trying to state that lighter skin means higher IQ. However many discredit it, since skin color isn't a very precise measurement of racial ancestry. There have even been studies on blood type to see if there is a correlation with IQ. These studies done in europe produced a correlation range of -.38 to 0.05. This is a weak correlation, and it's doubtful it holds any real significance... Remember, correlation is NOT causation.

I'm not saying there is no correlation... I'm saying that it's rather weak and that people shouldn't be so concerned with it.
bill

Medford, NJ

#28 May 4, 2013
Read the bell curve. It has all the statistics you could ask for.

Since: Apr 12

Riverton, NJ

#29 May 4, 2013
bill wrote:
Read the bell curve. It has all the statistics you could ask for.
You mean to book written by Richard Hernstein and Charlse Murray in 1994... about how inheritable and environmental factors affect IQ, and how IQ can hold correlation with personal dynamics including but not limited to job performance, financial income, and tendancy to commit crimes? The one in which they made what was considered controversial statements about race, genetics, and IQ but also introduced the topic cautiously by saying that they do not yet know for sure whether there truly is a significant connection between genetics environment and race, and actually reminded during the study that correlation is simply acknowledgment of the pattern and is NOT proof that the variable has any direct link to IQ? A book that was highly praised but very much criticized for making statements that many misconstrued as an attack on African Americans, and some believed that the book ignored a lot of hard data produced in the past that contradicts it. Many complained that while it does make a point of saying that these are merely trends and correlations, it fails to properly state that studies even before the time of this book, have shown that, once placed in the proper, enriched environments, people of the races and demographics that typically score low, reach unforseen heights and later-on score just as high as someone typically found in such environments in the first place. The book however does state as its main point (Which I actually partially agree with by the way) that IQ can be a better indicator for ones place in the world, financial income, tendacy to commit crimes,and many personal and social behaviors, than socioeconomic status. Is that the book you're talking about? Actually if memory serves, the book states that the correlation is moderate, between race an IQ directly, however race has a VERY strong connection to other factors, mostly social, a few inherited (genetic), that also have their influences on IQ. It HAS been 7 years and my memory of it isn't exactly perfect... I read so many books on the topic, I could be mixing things a bit.

oh and i forgot to post my resources on my post earlier. I was posting from memory so I had to take a moment to look up e-books of the studies I was thinking about.

oh and here are the studies I referenced.

http://books.google.com/books...

http://books.google.com/books...

Sorry I don't know where to find this last one to read one online... It's a fun book to skim through. I bought it back when i had a mini-obsession over IQ testing in high school.

Jerison, Harry J (2000). "The Evolution of Intelligence".

it came from:
Sternberg, Robert J (2000). The Handbook of Intelligence. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press

Since: Apr 12

Riverton, NJ

#30 May 4, 2013
What i'm trying to say, really, is that there is a correlation between race and IQ, it's moderate at best and not a direct correlation at that. If we as a country, would just stop harping on such things all the time, the correlation would likely disappear completely within a century or two... assuming our country survives that long. lol

Since: Apr 12

Riverton, NJ

#31 May 4, 2013
There's a theory i came up with about the average score for black people. Look at how the IQ of the average black person has been at about 85 for the past couple of decades. In fact lets look even further back than that. I think it was called the Flynn effect... I think it might have been mentioned in The Bell Curve as well. The way that the average IQ for both whites and blacks raised by about 15 points since about 1930. It was decided that it was environmental factors that caused the significant raise in score, because there was no feasible way for genetics to produce such a change in such a short time. If you take a look at how much our environment has improved overall in this country, it makes sense. Now, overall, whites have historically had far better environments to work with than blacks, thus the gap between us... but that's just going by environment, there's more to it than that. For centuries, since before we even formed as our blessed country, blacks have been told that they are inferior, less intelligent, less gifted... We were treated like animals, and livestock, and our overall level of intelligence began to resemble as much as time went by. However, eventually enough was enough, and we began struggling to get out from the bottom. Slavery ended, but racism went on, so in the 1900's we were no where near caught up in education SES or any of the factors concerning IQ... now there were a few outliers within the curve, but for the most part our IQ stayed rather low. Besides, IQ has been proven to have a nearly .5 direct (moderate) correlation with heritability. Whatever range the parents IQ was in, it can be assumed that their children will be within at least 10 or so points of that range.Afterall, parents can only teach what they know, and what did most blacks know after the end of slavery? Not much aside from working with their hands. So there was a slow climb to reach at least necessary levels of intelligence in order to function. Then the 50's and 60's happened and we began trying to get better facilities for our children to learn, better environments. After all it was the studies in the 40's and 50's on children and how they had developed such an inferiority complex to whites that helped in the realization that separate wasn't equal. So we gained "equality" and what not, but it doesn't change that we are still, overall, poorer, less educated, and have less opportunities. However our environment is only part of the problem. The biggest problem, from what i can see, is us. It's only been 50 years since civil rights happened, and we're still holding a lot of that inferiority complex, as a whole. We hold onto it, hold onto our anger at "the white man who held us down." and use it as an excuse for the plateau we seem to have reached. Many, holding on to the idea, that we can't ever get ahead, resort to crime in desperation to see themselves on top for once, rather than trying to set up for their grandchildren to get up there in their stead. Many misdirect their anger an stupidity to other black people. Suddenly, once we had struggled our way into a position where we could have begun to do better, we didn't know what to do and had a freak-out. It's like we have some kind of culture-wide PTSD or some form of acute anxiety, and it's making us go into flashbacks and lash out at everyone including ourselves. It's only been 50 years, and it takes generations to completely turn around something centuries in the making, so what is our deal? Honestly i haven't figured that part out. It's like we actually thought we'd all be able to just hop right up to the top after the 60's and when we didn't we threw a nasty tempertantrum and rebelled like some kind of emo teenager. But yeah that's my theory. It's kinda depressing. Our environment started it, but we're keeping it going, for the most part. There are still more factors... That there'd be no sign of improvement over that last decades... it's a shame.

Since: Apr 12

Riverton, NJ

#32 May 4, 2013
I should rephrase and expand the end of my extensive post... Our environment was total crap and for the most part out our control, we complained and whined and struggled and fought our way into a better one, but once we got there and realized that there weren't any better ones avaiblefor us to fight our way into, and that it would be left to us to build upon what we've achieved for ourselves, it's like we had no clue where to start. Suddenly there wasn't anyone left to struggle against for our basic needs... We have the minimums by right now. Overall, the facilities in "rich white" communities far outshine those in black communities. We just can't afford them yet...

These things take time, dedication, and hard work... something we should know all about, but the past century of struggling against someone or something blocking our way has convinced us that we're supposed to be fighting someone or something for what we need. So we imagine that at EVERY turn the system is still working against us, and at some points it is, but in a lot of places we distrust, it's all in our heads. Since these slights against us are largely dramatized and imagined, most of us who are in a position of knowledge and power to do something about this and call for the people to unite once again, aren't going to do it because we know it's improving and that there's no need. Since those that would know how to "work the system" won't help, the fools left to their own devices resort to crimes and get-rich-quick schemes in an attempt to pull ahead outside the system that's so against them, but that kind of world is a real rat-race, causing ripples of distrust among our own and soon everyone's fighting and scrapping for their piece of the pie. Guess we found someone to struggle against after all. Meanwhile the idiocy is passed down throughout the culture to the children, in the form of our entertainment culture and our leading trends of drugs sex and guns. We keep telling ourselves we're not getting ahead through proper methods, so we stop trying to do things right and in the end never get ahead. We go on teaching the same to each generation,stunting their growth and creating a self-fulfilling prophecy of failure. However, I have faith that as a whole we'll get our crap together some day... I might not live to see the day, but it'll come eventually. I really feel that everything will eventually even out enough that people will stop harping so much on the racial differences between us... then we'll find some other trivial meaningless BS to harp on each other over lol...
bill

Mullica Hill, NJ

#33 May 8, 2013
Were are all the black scientists?, mathematicians? Inventors? Can you name a few?

Since: Apr 12

Glassboro, NJ

#34 May 8, 2013
bill wrote:
Were are all the black scientists?, mathematicians? Inventors? Can you name a few?
There are quite a few well known black mathematicians:

William Massey, David Blackwell, Elbert Cox, E. Haynes (Her names was a bit strange, Eufemia? More likely Euphemia? Can't remember), Kelly Miller, J. Wilkins...

Here are some inventor names I remember from history class:

Benjamin Banneker (who is also known as a mathematician for a few of his notebooks), Sarah Goode, George Washington Carver, George Crum...

That's the best I have without looking anyone up. Good enough for you? I should also add that most if not all of these people are also American. My list would almost double if I added the names of people in Africa I know about off hand.

Since: Apr 12

Glassboro, NJ

#35 May 8, 2013
Also, I recently took the GRE for Mathematics and plan on continuing my studies at night school after I've worked for a bit as a teacher and paid off a bit of my student loans. While I don't forsee greatnest in my future as a mathematician, I'll still technically be one... All it takes is getting even one mathematical paper published.I had one paper written for my seminar course considered breifly... I was rejected in then, but that was my first attempt, and a very amature attempt as an undergrad at that. As I learn more I'll likely come accross something new to write about and attempt to have published, if I really want to... Really I just want to teach. I might have better results writing for a journal of education with a focus on mathematics , rather than a generic math journal. XD

Since: Apr 12

Glassboro, NJ

#36 May 8, 2013
Lol I think my biggest problem with writing papers is how I randomly mistype the simplest of words in the weirdest ways... lol "greatnest" I really need to pay better attention to spelling. Though that's what microsoft word's spellcheck was invented for XD.
bill

Blackwood, NJ

#37 May 11, 2013
I have read the links provided. They both support the notion that the average black IQ is 85 vs 100 for whites. Blacks with a lot of white in them score higher on average than blacks with no or little white in them.
Having a lower IQ does limit a persons potential. And explains the condition of subsaharan Africa and majority black towns and cities. While a few will do well in life many will be lost as we leave the industrial age. Have any of the mathematicians or inventors created something useful? Or are they just theories lacking real use?
NY State of Mind

Willingboro, NJ

#38 May 11, 2013
bill wrote:
Were are all the black scientists?, mathematicians? Inventors? Can you name a few?
air conditioning unit: Frederick M. Jones; July 12, 1949
almanac: Benjamin Banneker; Approx 1791
auto cut-off switch: Granville T. Woods; January 1,1839
auto fishing devise: G. Cook; May 30, 1899
automatic gear shift: Richard Spikes; February 28, 1932
baby buggy: W.H. Richardson; June 18, 1899
bicycle frame: L.R. Johnson; Octber 10, 1899
biscuit cutter: A.P. Ashbourne; November 30, 1875
blood plasma bag: Charles Drew; Approx. 1945
cellular phone: Henry T. Sampson; July 6, 1971
chamber commode: T. Elkins; January 3, 1897
clothes dryer: G. T. Sampson; June 6, 1862
curtain rod: S. R. Scratton; November 30, 1889
curtain rod support: William S. Grant; August 4, 1896
door knob: O. Dorsey; December 10, 1878
door stop: O. Dorsey; December 10, 1878
dust pan: Lawrence P. Ray; August 3, 1897
egg beater: Willie Johnson; February 5, 1884
electric lampbulb: Lewis Latimer; March 21, 1882
elevator: Alexander Miles; October 11, 1867
eye protector: P. Johnson; November 2, 1880
fire escape ladder: J. W. Winters; May 7, 1878
fire extinguisher: T. Marshall; October 26, 1872
folding bed: L. C. Bailey; July 18, 1899
folding chair: Brody & Surgwar; June 11, 1889
fountain pen: W. B. Purvis; January 7, 1890
furniture caster: O. A. Fisher; 1878
gas mask: Garrett Morgan; October 13, 1914
golf tee: T. Grant; December 12, 1899
guitar: Robert F. Flemming, Jr. March 3, 1886
hair brush: Lydia O. Newman; November 15,18--
hand stamp: Walter B. Purvis; February 27, 1883
horse shoe: J. Ricks; March 30, 1885
ice cream scooper: A. L. Cralle; February 2, 1897
improv. sugar making: Norbet Rillieux; December 10, 1846
insect-destroyer gun: A. C. Richard; February 28, 1899
ironing board: Sarah Boone; December 30, 1887
key chain: F. J. Loudin; January 9, 1894
lantern: Michael C. Harvey; August 19, 1884
lawn mower: L. A. Burr; May 19, 1889
lawn sprinkler: J. W. Smith; May 4, 1897
lemon squeezer: J. Thomas White; December 8, 1893
lock: W. A. Martin; July 23, 18--
lubricating cup: Ellijah McCoy; November 15, 1895
lunch pail: James Robinson; 1887
mail box: Paul L. Downing; October 27, 1891
mop: Thomas W. Stewart; June 11, 1893
motor: Frederick M. Jones; June 27, 1939
peanut butter: George Washington Carver; 1896
pencil sharpener: J. L. Love; November 23, 1897
record player arm: Joseph Hunger Dickenson January 8, 1819
refrigerator: J. Standard; June 14, 1891
riding saddles: W. D. Davis; October 6, 1895
rolling pin: John W. Reed; 1864
shampoo headrest: C. O. Bailiff; October 11, 1898
spark plug: Edmond Berger; February 2, 1839
stethoscope: Imhotep; Ancient Egypt
stove: T. A. Carrington; July 25, 1876
straightening comb: Madam C. J. Walker; Approx 1905
street sweeper: Charles B. Brooks; March 17, 1890
phone transmitter: Granville T. Woods; December 2, 1884
thermostat control: Frederick M. Jones; February 23, 1960
traffic light: Garrett Morgan; November 20, 1923
tricycle: M. A. Cherry; May 6, 1886
typewriter: Burridge & Marshman; April 7, 1885

Since: Apr 12

Riverton, NJ

#39 May 11, 2013
bill wrote:
I have read the links provided. They both support the notion that the average black IQ is 85 vs 100 for whites. Blacks with a lot of white in them score higher on average than blacks with no or little white in them.
Having a lower IQ does limit a persons potential. And explains the condition of subsaharan Africa and majority black towns and cities. While a few will do well in life many will be lost as we leave the industrial age. Have any of the mathematicians or inventors created something useful? Or are they just theories lacking real use?
Thanks for missing my point in that post entirely and consistently refusing to notice the fact that I have said repeatedly that the correlation DOES exist. My point is that it is indirect. There is a lot of collinearity with other elements within the field of variables, and BOTH of the referenced studies take a look at other factors as well. And the point of the post referencing them, was to point out examples of small flaws that that could easily discredit parts of a study. For example, in one, it references the study that talks about using skin-tone as a measurement, it produces a correlation of 0.17, with a probability of less that 0.001 (0.1%)which statistically rejects the idea that skintone can be used as an indicator of IQ, thus discrediting that portion of Shuey's 1966 article. At NO point did I ever say that the numbers for IQ were wrong, or that there is no chance of genetic factors. However, i have yet to find a study that proves without a doubt that race has a strong, direct, correlation to IQ. The best provided in either of my references is about a .5, MODERATE. For example, this genetic factor "g". The one study talks about all of the samples taken from the US, Netherlands and southern regions of Africa... places that have similar histories when it comes to race. Remember my theory earlier? There's a difference in average IQ for African Americans and Africans from Southern Africa... We Began slowly abolishing slavery in the late 1700's and finally made it 100% official in 1865, then we had segregation and extreme levels of racism and such until the civil rights act in 1964 and the movement and everything along with it. South Africa, specifically, managed to work much faster at abolishing slavery, but they didn't even start until about 1834, and most of the emancipated slaves were indentured for years afterward anyway. Then the racism, and segregation continued for them until about the 1980's. Though the progress after that seems to be quite rapid, since they elected their first black president by the mid 1990's. My point is that the environment, the way people are treated, the way they are taught, the resources available to them, has a far stronger DIRECT, and lasting influence on one's potential... and while there are a few genetic factors that may cause some differences, it is the history of how we have separated ourselves and the environments we've kept, and that we now keep that has caused such a despairingly large difference within our country. Just being of African American doesn't automatically limit a person to an IQ of about 85. Being African American, and in an environment typical of an African American, and born of parents of typical IQ within range of 85, and with the level of access typical of an African American, makes that person highly likely to have an IQ within range of 85. You know the Flynn effect? Environment can have a DRASTIC influence on IQ. My main point this entire time has been:

Correlation is NOT causation. This is merely a pattern, one that will likely change over the centuries to come, one that may even disappear almost entirely if we could stop harping on racial differences all of the time.(Though there's no way that's happening soon) So the person who I was talking to earlier, who was concerned that according to studies his IQ should be lower than it is because of his race, doesn't need to be so concerned with it.
bill

New Castle, DE

#40 May 12, 2013
Haruko57 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for missing my point in that post entirely and consistently refusing to notice the fact that I have said repeatedly that the correlation DOES exist. My point is that it is indirect. There is a lot of collinearity with other elements within the field of variables, and BOTH of the referenced studies take a look at other factors as well. And the point of the post referencing them, was to point out examples of small flaws that that could easily discredit parts of a study. For example, in one, it references the study that talks about using skin-tone as a measurement, it produces a correlation of 0.17, with a probability of less that 0.001 (0.1%)which statistically rejects the idea that skintone can be used as an indicator of IQ, thus discrediting that portion of Shuey's 1966 article. At NO point did I ever say that the numbers for IQ were wrong, or that there is no chance of genetic factors. However, i have yet to find a study that proves without a doubt that race has a strong, direct, correlation to IQ. The best provided in either of my references is about a .5, MODERATE. For example, this genetic factor "g". The one study talks about all of the samples taken from the US, Netherlands and southern regions of Africa... places that have similar histories when it comes to race. Remember my theory earlier? There's a difference in average IQ for African Americans and Africans from Southern Africa... We Began slowly abolishing slavery in the late 1700's and finally made it 100% official in 1865, then we had segregation and extreme levels of racism and such until the civil rights act in 1964 and the movement and everything along with it. South Africa, specifically, managed to work much faster at abolishing slavery, but they didn't even start until about 1834, and most of the emancipated slaves were indentured for years afterward anyway. Then the racism, and segregation continued for them until about the 1980's. Though the progress after that seems to be quite rapid, since they elected their first black president by the mid 1990's. My point is that the environment, the way people are treated, the way they are taught, the resources available to them, has a far stronger DIRECT, and lasting influence on one's potential... and while there are a few genetic factors that may cause some differences, it is the history of how we have separated ourselves and the environments we've kept, and that we now keep that has caused such a despairingly large difference within our country. Just being of African American doesn't automatically limit a person to an IQ of about 85. Being African American, and in an environment typical of an African American, and born of parents of typical IQ within range of 85, and with the level of access typical of an African American, makes that person highly likely to have an IQ within range of 85. You know the Flynn effect? Environment can have a DRASTIC influence on IQ. My main point this entire time has been:
Correlation is NOT causation. This is merely a pattern, one that will likely change over the centuries to come, one that may even disappear almost entirely if we could stop harping on racial differences all of the time.(Though there's no way that's happening soon) So the person who I was talking to earlier, who was concerned that according to studies his IQ should be lower than it is because of his race, doesn't need to be so concerned with it.
Just what would a person with a IQ of 85 be capable of? Wouldn't most have to take low skill jobs that don't pay much?
bill

New Castle, DE

#41 May 12, 2013
NY State of Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
air conditioning unit: Frederick M. Jones; July 12, 1949
almanac: Benjamin Banneker; Approx 1791
auto cut-off switch: Granville T. Woods; January 1,1839
auto fishing devise: G. Cook; May 30, 1899
automatic gear shift: Richard Spikes; February 28, 1932
baby buggy: W.H. Richardson; June 18, 1899
bicycle frame: L.R. Johnson; Octber 10, 1899
biscuit cutter: A.P. Ashbourne; November 30, 1875
blood plasma bag: Charles Drew; Approx. 1945
cellular phone: Henry T. Sampson; July 6, 1971
chamber commode: T. Elkins; January 3, 1897
clothes dryer: G. T. Sampson; June 6, 1862
curtain rod: S. R. Scratton; November 30, 1889
curtain rod support: William S. Grant; August 4, 1896
door knob: O. Dorsey; December 10, 1878
door stop: O. Dorsey; December 10, 1878
dust pan: Lawrence P. Ray; August 3, 1897
egg beater: Willie Johnson; February 5, 1884
electric lampbulb: Lewis Latimer; March 21, 1882
elevator: Alexander Miles; October 11, 1867
eye protector: P. Johnson; November 2, 1880
fire escape ladder: J. W. Winters; May 7, 1878
fire extinguisher: T. Marshall; October 26, 1872
folding bed: L. C. Bailey; July 18, 1899
folding chair: Brody & Surgwar; June 11, 1889
fountain pen: W. B. Purvis; January 7, 1890
furniture caster: O. A. Fisher; 1878
gas mask: Garrett Morgan; October 13, 1914
golf tee: T. Grant; December 12, 1899
guitar: Robert F. Flemming, Jr. March 3, 1886
hair brush: Lydia O. Newman; November 15,18--
hand stamp: Walter B. Purvis; February 27, 1883
horse shoe: J. Ricks; March 30, 1885
ice cream scooper: A. L. Cralle; February 2, 1897
improv. sugar making: Norbet Rillieux; December 10, 1846
insect-destroyer gun: A. C. Richard; February 28, 1899
ironing board: Sarah Boone; December 30, 1887
key chain: F. J. Loudin; January 9, 1894
lantern: Michael C. Harvey; August 19, 1884
lawn mower: L. A. Burr; May 19, 1889
lawn sprinkler: J. W. Smith; May 4, 1897
lemon squeezer: J. Thomas White; December 8, 1893
lock: W. A. Martin; July 23, 18--
lubricating cup: Ellijah McCoy; November 15, 1895
lunch pail: James Robinson; 1887
mail box: Paul L. Downing; October 27, 1891
mop: Thomas W. Stewart; June 11, 1893
motor: Frederick M. Jones; June 27, 1939
peanut butter: George Washington Carver; 1896
pencil sharpener: J. L. Love; November 23, 1897
record player arm: Joseph Hunger Dickenson January 8, 1819
refrigerator: J. Standard; June 14, 1891
riding saddles: W. D. Davis; October 6, 1895
rolling pin: John W. Reed; 1864
shampoo headrest: C. O. Bailiff; October 11, 1898
spark plug: Edmond Berger; February 2, 1839
stethoscope: Imhotep; Ancient Egypt
stove: T. A. Carrington; July 25, 1876
straightening comb: Madam C. J. Walker; Approx 1905
street sweeper: Charles B. Brooks; March 17, 1890
phone transmitter: Granville T. Woods; December 2, 1884
thermostat control: Frederick M. Jones; February 23, 1960

traffic light: Garrett Morgan; November 20, 1923
tricycle: M. A. Cherry; May 6, 1886
typewriter: Burridge & Marshman; April 7, 1885
Big list of b.s. do a little research before you post such nonsense. The united negro college fund was caught red handed telling these black invention myths in t.v. commercials.

Since: Jan 08

Willingboro, NJ

#42 May 12, 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_M._Jon...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Banneke...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granville_T._Woo...

Just the first 3 listed. Seems legit but then again I'm sure u will be ready to dispute because of your obviously biased and assumed position there are no black inventors. I guess the thousands of patents owned by the people listed means nothing.

It's funny a people that were slaves here for nearly 350 years and subjected to second class citizenship by law for another hundred years didn't invent enough stuff for you. And the ones that have you refuse to accept. Those dumb blacks should have been out inventing stuff even through subjugation and threat of death for reading.

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