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Houston We Have a Problem

Grosse Pointe, MI

#22 Apr 16, 2013
Kiss off wrote:
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Drill a well in your basement and dont use city water for anything.
I wish I COULD drill a well.... or at least get a seperate meter at my expense for watering. For some reason both are out of the question. Maybe because they can still charge me outrageous sewer fees on the water that goes into my lawn, not down a drain.
Save your rain

United States

#23 Apr 17, 2013
Get two 50 gallon rain barrels and save your rain to water. it will pay for itself.
High and dry

Denver, CO

#24 Apr 17, 2013
Houston We Have a Problem wrote:
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I wish I COULD drill a well.... or at least get a seperate meter at my expense for watering. For some reason both are out of the question. Maybe because they can still charge me outrageous sewer fees on the water that goes into my lawn, not down a drain.
For over 30 yrs we had a pool and when water went up down came the pool mostly due to us having to pay sewer on 18,000 gallons of water. I did contact Water Dept and we we basically told "too bad". Probably cheaper to have it delivered by tanker.
Linda

Fraser, MI

#25 Apr 17, 2013
Save your rain wrote:
Get two 50 gallon rain barrels and save your rain to water. it will pay for itself.
Next week I believe the Yardeners are having a session at the library (at night) on rain barrels and will have, I believe, A ran barrel distributor giving the presentation.
Water Wonderland

Farmington, MI

#26 Apr 17, 2013
High and dry wrote:
<quoted text> For over 30 yrs we had a pool and when water went up down came the pool mostly due to us having to pay sewer on 18,000 gallons of water. I did contact Water Dept and we we basically told "too bad". Probably cheaper to have it delivered by tanker.
Actually having it delivered by tanker is more expensive. The place where the tanker fills up with the water is charged for both the water and the sewer just like you at home. So the actual cost of the water is nearly the same, if not the same. Then add to that the cost of the tanker/driver delivering it to your home and then pumping it into your pool. That's got to be another $150. The only advantage of the tanker is that you can get your pool filled quickly compared to using your garden hose. The key to owning a pool is to only remove as much water as necessary in the fall when preparing it for winter.
Houston We Have a Problem

Grosse Pointe, MI

#27 Apr 17, 2013
Save your rain wrote:
Get two 50 gallon rain barrels and save your rain to water. it will pay for itself.
What am I going to do with 2 50 gal drums full of water?
Not Always

Fraser, MI

#28 Apr 17, 2013
Water Wonderland wrote:
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Actually having it delivered by tanker is more expensive. The place where the tanker fills up with the water is charged for both the water and the sewer just like you at home. So the actual cost of the water is nearly the same, if not the same. Then add to that the cost of the tanker/driver delivering it to your home and then pumping it into your pool. That's got to be another $150. The only advantage of the tanker is that you can get your pool filled quickly compared to using your garden hose. The key to owning a pool is to only remove as much water as necessary in the fall when preparing it for winter.
Some cities that are forward thinking allow 2nd meters for outside water use so sewer charges don't apply. That could easliy be the case for tanker trucks. SCS is not very forward thinking.
No No Nannette

Saint Clair Shores, MI

#29 Apr 17, 2013
Houston We Have a Problem wrote:
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I wish I COULD drill a well.... or at least get a seperate meter at my expense for watering. For some reason both are out of the question. Maybe because they can still charge me outrageous sewer fees on the water that goes into my lawn, not down a drain.
Just pay your bill your cheap ass!!! What do we have another Mark Moffitt?
Houston We Have a Problem

Grosse Pointe, MI

#30 Apr 19, 2013
No No Nannette wrote:
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Just pay your bill your cheap ass!!! What do we have another Mark Moffitt?
I DID pay my bill, EVERY quarter, ontime. Now they want me to pay over $3K MORE.
Houston We Have a Problem

Grosse Pointe, MI

#32 Apr 20, 2013
Short Sighted wrote:
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Because you were not paying for all the water you used.
Are you people even awake? Imagine ANY other business telling you that they billed you incorrectly, based on readings from old equipment THEY own, for useage that is OVER A DECADE OLD! There is no ordinance or document ANYWHERE that states that they have the authority to collect any monies beyond the actual reading. What if I moved? What then? Plus, THEY ARE CHARGING ME TODAY'S RATES FOR WATER THEY ADMIT MIGHT HAVE BEEN USED 12 YEARS AGO!
Crocodile Tears

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#33 Apr 20, 2013
Houston We Have a Problem wrote:
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Are you people even awake? Imagine ANY other business telling you that they billed you incorrectly, based on readings from old equipment THEY own, for useage that is OVER A DECADE OLD! There is no ordinance or document ANYWHERE that states that they have the authority to collect any monies beyond the actual reading. What if I moved? What then? Plus, THEY ARE CHARGING ME TODAY'S RATES FOR WATER THEY ADMIT MIGHT HAVE BEEN USED 12 YEARS AGO!
What some cheese for that whine? The bill is for what your meter said you used. It was your responsibility to make sure that what you were getting billed for actually matched the meter in your house. You chose not to, and now are whining about it.
Houston We Have a Problem

Grosse Pointe, MI

#34 Apr 20, 2013
Crocodile Tears wrote:
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What some cheese for that whine? The bill is for what your meter said you used. It was your responsibility to make sure that what you were getting billed for actually matched the meter in your house. You chose not to, and now are whining about it.
You my friend, cannot read. The City read my meter, they calculated a bill, mailed my a bill, I paid it. My lawyer is going to claim my responsibility ends there.
Houston We Have a Problem

Grosse Pointe, MI

#36 Apr 21, 2013
Houston Crier wrote:
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You paid your quarterly bill based on an external reading device, not the water meter......unless you have been letting a city employee in your house every three months.
Call it what you will... external reading device, whatever. It is a device owned by the city and depended upon by the the city to calculate the amount of water consumed by my household. There is NO PROVISION anywhere in city ordinance that allows them to charge retroactivly based upon the difference in these two city-owned devices. Ponder this for a moment.... what would happen if the discrepancy went the other way? What if they owed ME $3100.00? Do you think I would ever collect?
Brain dead in Houston

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#37 Apr 21, 2013
Houston We Have a Problem wrote:
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Call it what you will... external reading device, whatever. It is a device owned by the city and depended upon by the the city to calculate the amount of water consumed by my household. There is NO PROVISION anywhere in city ordinance that allows them to charge retroactivly based upon the difference in these two city-owned devices. Ponder this for a moment.... what would happen if the discrepancy went the other way? What if they owed ME $3100.00? Do you think I would ever collect?
The city has already paid residents that were over charged. Sorry, but your argument regarding the "two" city owned devices doesn't hold water.....the meter read is the legal determination of usage. You lose.
Corn holed

Roseville, MI

#38 Apr 21, 2013
Brain dead in Houston wrote:
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The city has already paid residents that were over charged. Sorry, but your argument regarding the "two" city owned devices doesn't hold water.....the meter read is the legal determination of usage. You lose.
The city paid nothing to anybody WTF R U smoking?
did not Inhale

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#39 Apr 22, 2013
Corn holed wrote:
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The city paid nothing to anybody WTF R U smoking?
<YAWN>

Just shut up an pay your bill
Credits Instead of Refund

Waterford, MI

#40 Apr 22, 2013
Corn holed wrote:
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The city paid nothing to anybody WTF R U smoking?
I agree. Several years ago the city decided not to read my meter display outside and just gave me an estimated bill. Turns out "their estimate" was way off and they charged me for a lot of water I hadn't used. At the time I didn't pay that much attention to the bill and just paid it. Then 3 months later the city comes around again and this time reads the meter. They send me a bill that says that I have a "credit". I stopped by city hall and asked for my money. They said that they don't give refunds for overpayments, just credits toward my future bills. Then 3 months later they read the meter again and they stilled owed me money. So I continued to have a credit until the next meter read 3 months after that.
Houston We Have a Problem

Grosse Pointe, MI

#41 Apr 22, 2013
Brain dead in Houston wrote:
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The city has already paid residents that were over charged. Sorry, but your argument regarding the "two" city owned devices doesn't hold water.....the meter read is the legal determination of usage. You lose.
yOU JUST MADE MY POINT, ASS LOAD. "the meter read is the legal determination of usage" tHEY READ MY METER, SENT ME BILLS, AND I PAID THEM. THANK-YOU.
Logic

Eastpointe, MI

#43 Apr 23, 2013
I wonder why they don't just do it like we have - a single outside meter in the front yard, "buried" in a sort of black metal type pit with a removable lid?

The line is buried coming from the street to the house anyway, and it seems like such a meter would cut down on these issues. When ours was replaced a couple of years ago by the city (with no need to come into our house or even schedule an appointment), there were no surprises because that is the only meter. There are quite a few houses with these meters on Rosedale and I'm almost positive I've seen them on other streets around here as well.
Buried Alive

Howell, MI

#44 Apr 24, 2013
Logic wrote:
I wonder why they don't just do it like we have - a single outside meter in the front yard, "buried" in a sort of black metal type pit with a removable lid?
The line is buried coming from the street to the house anyway, and it seems like such a meter would cut down on these issues. When ours was replaced a couple of years ago by the city (with no need to come into our house or even schedule an appointment), there were no surprises because that is the only meter. There are quite a few houses with these meters on Rosedale and I'm almost positive I've seen them on other streets around here as well.
So how do the read this type of meter when it's buried under a foot of snow and ice in the winter?

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