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Texas

Winnfield, LA

#1 Mar 2, 2011
Hello, I recently traveled to Pascagoula from eight hours away to take a test for an operator trainee job at chevron. While the chances of getting the job are slim due to the sheer volume of applicants, I am still hoping to get some information from locals. I am wondering if anyone has any info on starting pay, how long it takes to make top pay, the chances of getting overtime, and the overall work environment. I would also love to hear any feedback relating to the city of Pascagoula. How is the school system, how are the people, where are the best places to live etc.... I would greatly appreciate any info. Thanks so much.
JJohn

Pascagoula, MS

#2 Mar 6, 2011
Uh, you live in Lake Charles and you're coming here? Isn't there more oil work in your place than here?

Go to Houston or Beaumont Tx, that's where all the real oil refinery work is.

I've taken the operator test twice and passed with flying colors. I made it to the top 25% but the problem was they were only looking for like 20 positions and there were 90 of us there.

I hate to be so blunt but it really is a 'good old boy' system. If you know somebody, it's easier to get out there than if you don't. Unless you're just dumb lucky or you know somebody you WON'T get a job out there, even with experience in operations and with good references. Houston is a far better market @ getting a job in your trade friend.

As for places to live? Stay the hell where you are. There's gotta be more oil work there than here.

I even called the local jobs center and Chevron's security office to try and get a construction or safety job during the construction of the new section of the refinery. Chevron isn't even going thru the local jobs center to hire people. They're bringing in their own crews from elsewhere.

So much for hiring locals.

Uh, school systems? Pascagoula isn't bad but the school system is, per the Mississippi Press, 50% black and 10% Mexican. Only 40% white these days, if that means anything to you. It does to some people even though it's borderline racist.

The white flight out of Moss Point/Pascagoula has been going on for 30 years now and is only accelerating. I was in P-goula recently and I saw TONS of for rent signs on homes.

No jobs?

If you do live in Pascagoula, live near the beach as the rest of the city is a ghetto or a stinkhole filled with old shipyard blue collar houses and neighborhoods that have gone unfilled since @ least the hurricane, and probably even before. The city's been in decline since the 90s when we started losing shipyard contracts en masse.

Whatever you do, do not live in Moss Point. It's the crime capital of both the coast and Jackson Co. from what I've heard, seen, and been told. If you do have to live in 'Moss Point'- then live in Escatawpa. Which is like the area of Moss Point near I-10. The black folks there tend to be more working class and the white people as well. Although there are plenty of crooks from what I hear as well.

Gautier is ok but it's serviced by the Pascagoula School District and from what I'm told, it's slowly declining in quality. There's a mall there but it's dying. It lost like 4 of its best stores in the last 2 years alone. In another ten years it'll probably die.

Ocean Springs is where most of the white people and the black folks with sense or money live. Either that or in rural areas like Hurley, Escatawpa, Vancleave, or Grand Bay Alabama, which is only like 10 minutes away from Pascagoula.

If I had to pick and choose I'd live either in Ocean Springs or Alabama, as its not that far of a drive.

But that's if you absolutely have to. Jackson Co. has been bleeding jobs for 15 years now and the population is the same. I don't know where these people work.

The shipyard has like only 25% of the jobs it had in the 80s so obviously not there. Chevron is about the same in terms of employment numbers as it was in the 90s.

I guess some work at the casinos.

Just keep in mind, if you come here, you better own a car. If you don't, don't expect help from anybody and don't expect any kind of train/mass transit as that's only in Biloxi/Gulfport.

My advice, go to Houston. We literally have on refinery here, Chevron. Lake Charles has more than that and I know Houston has more refineries than they know what to do with.

Good luck.
Texas

Winnfield, LA

#3 Mar 7, 2011
thanks for th info. I am actually from central texas. i dont realy know why it is showing Lake Charles. Regardless, if i was lucky enough to get a job in Lake Charles, I would still have to move. Ironically, I applied to 3 different positions with chevron in Lake Charles for pipeline operator trainee and two others I cant remember. I also applied for the chevron operator trainee position in Pascagoula on a whim and that is the only one that I was asked to take a test for. Lake Charles is a 3 hour drive for me and Pascagoula is 8 hours. I drove down there to take the test, it wasnt that hard, but after the info you gave me it doesnt look like there is much chance of me getting hired. thanks
JJohn

Pascagoula, MS

#4 Mar 8, 2011
I'm not saying you won't get it.

I mean you never know. It's just very hard to get on out there. If your test scores are high enough they may hire you.

Or who knows, maybe your just dumb lucky.

I'm not sure why you're trying to get out of Texas but apply with other companies. My brother in law works for a smaller oil company in Houston and they have more refineries there than I've ever seen. I think it's the energy capital of America.

Good luck either way.
Texas

Winnfield, LA

#5 Mar 8, 2011
Thanks, its not that im trying to get out of Texas, its just that so far the Pascagoula refinery is the only one to contact me for a test. My sister and her family lived on the outskirts of Mobile, Al for 2 years and said if she had to pick one place to live in the south that would be it. So, I said shit maybe I get the job and try it out. They were supposed to contact us at the end of last week with test scores and Im still waiting so who knows.
Texas

Winnfield, LA

#6 Mar 8, 2011
Well, I just got email saying I had passed the test and if I was selected randomly out of the group that had passed I would be notified for an interview, if i wasnt a name that was drawn I would not recieve notification. I have to say I feel like I have completely wasted my time. That has to be one of the dumbest ways to hire employees I have ever whitnesed. Why not interview everyone in the top ten percent and give them a chance. Why not look at the level of education each of the test passers have. Or their work experience? To drive that far to take a test and then know that their decision is based upon whose name they draw from a hat is utterly ridiculous. Im sure it is just their way of saying, well, we are hiring 24 people, ten have to be black, 4 have to be female, and if we dont have ten white males that have inside connections to the plant, then we might give you a call if and only if your the lucky name we draw from the hat. Im so aggravated.
JJohn

Pascagoula, MS

#7 Mar 8, 2011
Welcome to the club brother.

For the record they do have racial and sex quotas. I think it's federal law. And even then it's probably passed over in favor for people who are connected.

Hate to break it to people but that's how it works. The world is corrupt, it's not fair and even like people delude themselves into believing.

I'm looking to leave this state. I took the Chevron test in 2003 and 2006 I think it was. Common sense really. Both times was told the same thing as you.

You gotta understand something, you accomodate them, not the other way around. That's the dirty little secret -- you wanna work for them? You better have something to give them.

If not, your at the whim and mercy of some random human relations flunky.

There have got to be at least 100 refineries in Houston. Work fire watch if you can't find work as an operator. There's plenty of shutdown work going on there and refineries are one of the last few ways to earn a middle class existence.

Good luck, and I may join you in Houston someday...
Texas

Winnfield, LA

#8 Mar 9, 2011
I talked to the lady at corporate recruiting in San Ramon, CA which happens to be the one sending out the emails for this job. I asked her if she could give me a timeline for when I would be called if I was lucky enough to be selected. She told me she couldnt give me that info but I could assume if I have not been contacted in the next few weeks to assume I was not selected. So I guess now I play the waiting game. The HR guy that administered the test said if you pass the test you get an interview, guess that was bull shit. He also said they were wanting to fill these jobs and have the people working by the beginning of May. This leads me to believe they have already made their selections because their is no way if they notify people selected at the beginning of April that they can have them working by the beginning of May. They would still have to interview, take Cobra test, and get clearances, osha, etc.... in a months time. I would rather them just tell you, hey we didnt select you, than have me sitting here thinking I still have a chance. By the way John, did they ever notify you that you were not selected and if so how long did it take them to give you the bad news
JJohn

Pascagoula, MS

#9 Mar 10, 2011
Oh no, they never notified me of any thing. But that woman you spoke with told you basically, read between the lines. They don't contact you within a month or so, more than likely they already have the people they want.

I wish I could be optimistic for your prospects but sounds like they led you on.

Don't waste your time. Look for work in Houston...good luck to you man.
pascagoula

Ocean Springs, MS

#10 Mar 11, 2011
i just recieved notification for an interview later this month so maybe they are letting people know if they are going to be selected or not now
Texas

Winnfield, LA

#11 Mar 12, 2011
I had a lady call me yesterday on my cell, I was working but got the voicemail. She said she would call back later but didnt. Im assuming it was to set up an interview since they said if you were not selected they would call.
Texas

Winnfield, LA

#12 Mar 12, 2011
I guess I will call the number back if she hasnt called by Monday evening. She called my phone at about 230 yesterday. What day is your interview set up for if you dont mind me asking and at what time. The reason I ask is because im 9 hours away from Pascagoula and it takes me a little planning.
southTI

Meridian, ID

#13 Mar 12, 2011
A friend of mine got their call for an interview yesterday around 2 pm and was scheduled for two weeks from now. Dunno if that helps you any. Hope you get an interview..
Texas

Winnfield, LA

#14 Mar 12, 2011
thanks, thats got to be what they called for since they said if you werent chosen for an interview you wouldnt be called or given notification.
JJohn

Pascagoula, MS

#15 Mar 12, 2011
Let us know if you got the job and good luck.

Pascagoula -- did you get on because you know somebody who works there? I'm not saying your didn't do well on your test, just that, if there are other challengers, knowing somebody often helps....
pascagoula

Gulfport, MS

#16 Mar 12, 2011
no i don't know anyone who works out there wish i did and i have not got on yet but hopefully i will and good luck Texas i would hate to see you drive all that way and not get it
Texas

Winnfield, LA

#17 Mar 13, 2011
Thanks i have already made one trip for the test another one for the interview and if i do well on the interview probably another trip for the cobra test. If all that goes well and I do get a job I will have to live out of a hotel until my house sells and the kids and my wife finish out the school year and then hopefully my wife who is a high school teacher can get a job somewhere. I am really beginning if it is even worth it to uproot my whole family and move so far away from our loved ones. I dont even have an idea of what the starting pay is and how quick you move up. Can anyone give me any info on pay and whether or not it is a good work environment. Thanks
JJohn

Pascagoula, MS

#18 Mar 13, 2011
pascagoula wrote:
no i don't know anyone who works out there wish i did and i have not got on yet but hopefully i will and good luck Texas i would hate to see you drive all that way and not get it
Pascagoula, let us know if you get on.
JJohn

Pascagoula, MS

#19 Mar 13, 2011
Texas wrote:
Thanks i have already made one trip for the test another one for the interview and if i do well on the interview probably another trip for the cobra test. If all that goes well and I do get a job I will have to live out of a hotel until my house sells and the kids and my wife finish out the school year and then hopefully my wife who is a high school teacher can get a job somewhere. I am really beginning if it is even worth it to uproot my whole family and move so far away from our loved ones. I dont even have an idea of what the starting pay is and how quick you move up. Can anyone give me any info on pay and whether or not it is a good work environment. Thanks
Chevron has been either laying off or curbing overtime over the past few years. However, with oil so high, you may have plenty of work. Let me give you a bit of advice, do NOT turn down overtime. If they offer you hours take them.

If you take time off they won't hesitate to find somebody to replace you.
Texas

Winnfield, LA

#20 Mar 14, 2011
lady just called me, my interview is set up for next week. Are you saying that if hired you may have to work all the time with no time to spend with family. I dont mind working overtime because that is where the money is but I do want to have time for my personal life with my kids and wife.

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