Better Gun Control
Posted in the Morristown Forum
#1 Dec 14, 2012
Where are all the people defending the right of everybody to bear arms? All of you people that don't think that there should be more strenuous background checks before you can purchase firearms are crazy! 20 kids might still be alive if you ignorant redneck hicks were not so damn worried about losing your right to own a gun. I hope that it is worth it. This country needs stiffer gun control laws and what happened today in Connecticut is why! If a tragedy like this happened at Manley, Alpha, Union Heights, etc and it was you or your loved ones affected, then would you change your stance on gun control?
#2 Dec 14, 2012
The gun did not kill those kids the person did. Should we have better people control? You can buy a gun on the street anyday if you want it.
#3 Dec 14, 2012
No need for name calling when you are asking a legit question....
#4 Dec 14, 2012
How many people did Tim McVeigh kill without a gun? A determined crazy person will find a way, and all sane people can do is react.
Our society is sick, and these shootings are just a symptom of the disease. Even if we could somehow magically make all of the guns in the country disappear, the sickness would remain and those effected would just find a new way to kill and main innocent people. Liberal immoral relativism is to blame for our condition. Young people today are taught that there is no universal good or evil, it is all relative. Therefore the only moral imperatives they understand are their own narcissistic base emotions and desires. Until we find a better way to deal with these problems there will only be more and more of these incidents.
Guns have been around for ever and are under more control today then ever, yet the problem is accelerating at a disturbing rate, which would suggest that we have lost control of our society, and our idea of what's right rather then guns. Liberal immoralism is in control today and teaching the kids in school everyday. Our society is being taught there is no right or wrong do your thing whatever that is with no responsibility whatsoever.
#5 Dec 14, 2012
Also the gunns where registerd to the mother.
#6 Dec 14, 2012
<--- This is why people resort to name calling.
When people feel they are losing or have nothing of substance or in their defense to say, they can result to name calling. It is childish, as are they, and it says more about them than the person on the receiving end usually.
#7 Dec 14, 2012
Just because you punish a legal , law abiding citizen, doesn't make a criminal less prone to do a crime.
#8 Dec 14, 2012
The people that commit these crimes are nuts. Nuts don't understand reason. They can justify anything they do in their own minds. Most are right wing nuts, not liberals. It doesn't matter if they have a gun registered to them because they can just steal or borrow one. Fortunately, these kind of nuts are few in number and the law of averages are on our side as far as the odds of them hitting us as an individual. It is a big country and we have to come to grips with the fact that if someone is suicidal and hell bent on taking some out with them, there is little we can do to stop them if they are determined enough.
#9 Dec 14, 2012
Yes the gun did kill the kids. Granted it was a person's actions the controlled the gun. If the monster had no had a gun, do you think that 28 people really would have died? Since you are so educated, what do you think the problem is, besides the liberal media and government? I know that no school shootings happened in the Bush administrations. We all know parenting is a big role, but how do you punish bad parenting?
#10 Dec 14, 2012
God why do you allow all the violence in our schools?
Dear Concerned Student
I'm not allowed in schools...
#11 Dec 14, 2012
Just another boring religious meme. Doesn't explain anything.
#12 Dec 14, 2012
No that gun could not do it own it's own,it had to have help from.....A person with antisocial personality disorder. Probably the most widely recognized personality disorder. A sociopath is often well liked because of their charm and high charisma, but they do not usually care about other people. They think mainly of themselves and often blame others for the things that they do. They have a complete disregard for rules and lie constantly. They seldom feel guilt or learn from punishments. Though some sociopaths have become murders, most reveal their sociopathy through less deadly and sensational means but not all. He could have had a knife a baseball bat or even a frying pan and killed. What would have helped and stopped him would have been someone carrying a concealed gun and shot him before he could have done this.
#13 Dec 14, 2012
You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door.
Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers.
At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way.
With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun.
You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it.
In the darkness, you make out two shadows.
One holds something that looks like a crowbar.
When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire.
The blast knocks both thugs to the floor.
One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside.
As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble.
In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless..
Yours was never registered.
Police arrive and inform you that the second burglar has died.
They arrest you for First Degree Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm.
When you talk to your attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably plea the case down to manslaughter.
"What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask.
"Only ten-to-twelve years," he replies, as if that's nothing.
"Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven."
The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper. Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choirboys.
Their friends and relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them..
Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times.
But the next day's headline says it all:
"Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die."
The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters..
As the days wear on, the story takes wings.
The national media picks it up, then the international media.
The surviving burglar has become a folk hero.
Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll probably win.
The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects.
After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time.
The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait for the burglars.
A few months later, you go to trial.
The charges haven't been reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted.
When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you..
Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man.
It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges.
The judge sentences you to life in prison.
This case really happened.
On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk , England , killed one burglar and wounded a second.
In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term...
How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great British Empire ?
It started with the Pistols Act of 1903.
This seemingly reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license.
The Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns but all firearms except shotguns..
Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns.
Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the Hungerfordmass shooting in 1987.
#14 Dec 14, 2012
Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed man with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the streets shooting everyone he saw.
When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead.
The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of "gun control", demanded even tougher restrictions.
(The seizure of all privately owned handguns was the objective even though Ryan used a rifle.)
Nine years later, at Dunblane , Scotland , Thomas Hamilton used a semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public school.
For many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally unstable, or worse, criminals.
Now the press had a real kook with which to beat up law-abiding gun owners.
Day after day, week after week, the media gave up all pretense of objectivity and demanded a total ban on all handguns.
The Dunblane Inquiry, a few months later, sealed the fate of the few sidearms still owned by private citizens.
During the years in which the British government incrementally took away most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to armed self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism.
Authorities refused to grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun.
Citizens who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged while the real criminals were released.
Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as saying,
"We cannot have people take the law into their own hands."
All of Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times,
and several elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs who had no fear of the consequences.
Martin himself, a collector of antiques, had seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by burglars.
When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were given three months to turn them over to local authorities.
Being good British subjects, most people obeyed the law.
The few who didn't were visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they didn't comply.
Police later bragged that they'd taken nearly 200,000 handguns from private citizens.
How did the authorities know who had handguns?
The guns had been registered and licensed.
Kind of like cars. Sound familiar?
WAKE UP AMERICA ; THIS IS WHY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS PUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT IN OUR CONSTITUTION.
"...It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
You had better wake up, because Obama is doing this very same thing, over here, if he can get it done
The UN Small Arms Treaty that Hilary is negotiating would take away our 2nd Amendment rights.
And there are stupid people in congress and on the street that will go right along with him.
#15 Dec 14, 2012
the first recorded mass murder was in 1780. they are not new nor are they all done with guns. explosives top the list followed by fire,clubs, knives, swords,even bare hands. were these guns bought legally? If they tighten the laws who will still have or find a way to get guns? I could make one. Control what you want but it won't stop the mentally ill it will just make them more creative.
I don't even own a gun. but the thought that gun control will stop this, Is wrong
#16 Dec 14, 2012
It is possible to print a gun with a printer now. Do you think if they wanted a gun you could stop it? NO...Education and people being able to recognize mental problems before they do this type of thing is whats needed
#17 Dec 14, 2012
I agree. When you have a nation with 300 million people, you are gonna have a handful of extreme nutjobs that would actually carry something like this out. There is no way to predict it and no way to stop it 100% of the time. That's why these events shock us so much. Deep down it makes us feel powerless, especially when it happens to kids that would have no way of defending themselves.
#18 Dec 14, 2012
Arm the damn teachers!
You never heard of mass school shootings before 1950 when they allowed the teachers to carry... Yet after then the predators know where the least resistance is.
#19 Dec 14, 2012
I totally agree! I think all teachers should carry.... Amazes me people want to take away guns, truth is that doesn't happen often I know its so sad it did but look at drugs Heck they are supposed to illegal.... adults,teens,kids die daily over DRUGS! No matter what laws happens it wont change! Every street corner in crack town you can buy a gun...Everyone needs to carry, my family for sure does. Look do you see these type of people go into a place that has guns and start shooting??? NO because they know it wouldn't work so they go to places thats innocent and unarmed! Malls, schools, movies,churches.... why dont these people get some balls and go into the national guard,a gun show, or a local shooting range and try to pull that crap? POINT IS THEY WILL NOT JUMP ON SOMEONE THAT CAN DEFEND... fact is they are sick people with NO BALLS and pick on someone they know they can hurt
#20 Dec 14, 2012
The NRA is where all the rest of the country is...mourning this cowardly act. Are you really stupid enough to think that this mental gnat legally obtained the guns he used? Us "ignorant redneck hicks" are in no way responsible for this cowardly deed. They were in a gun free zone. As usual, the coward killer knew there would be no guns there to deter his cowardly act. He knew he would face no resistance nor danger. It's moron's like you that are responsible for these happenings. I'm sick and tired of you liberal bleeding hearts. Gun's didn't kill these kids, a human filled with hatred did. How about we practice some people control!
Add your comments below
|Jerry Britt of Jerry's Truck & Auto Repair in R... (Mar '13)||8 min||2real4u||45|
|cant pay traffic ticket (Aug '11)||3 hr||lol||38|
|hot women who work at tuff torq (Jan '11)||5 hr||MommaMoose444||7|
|What does everyone think of national fitness ce... (Jun '15)||5 hr||MommaMoose444||28|
|Big "A" Market (Sep '15)||5 hr||Hot boy||22|
|Anyone know Jacklyn Kimbrough||5 hr||JBC||11|
|How I cracked my neighbor’s WiFi password witho...||5 hr||Elect boy||3|
Find what you want!
Search Morristown Forum Now
Copyright © 2017 Topix LLC