Baptist man sues Morristown Lowe's af...

Baptist man sues Morristown Lowe's after being told to work Sundays

There are 85 comments on the Knoxville News Sentinel story from Mar 30, 2010, titled Baptist man sues Morristown Lowe's after being told to work Sundays. In it, Knoxville News Sentinel reports that:

A Lowe's Home Center in East Tennessee is being sued for discrimination because it forced an employee who is Baptist to work on Sundays, although he said he held sincere religious beliefs against working on the Sabbath.

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Funny

Morristown, TN

#42 Apr 2, 2010
I can't imagine myself that Buehler believed there was any chance Lowes could pardon him from Sundays. And yep getting his name in the news like this sure won't be helpful looking for another job. I have worked for Lowes and there's a great many other Lowes employees who wouldn't argue that their management in this area is full of egomaniacs. If they decide that you are disenchanted with anything they want or say, they come after you in every way imaginable. It's my understanding that when Buehler went part time - Lowes still scheduled him almost every Sunday. Don't know if this is true or not but it wouldn't surprise me a bit. So the case really becomes about what was the purpose of going part time if it wasn't going to change the Sunday situation. Until proven otherwise I think this is just one more case of Lowes making an example of what happens if you don't look happy singing their song and dancing their dance.
Listen UP

Walland, TN

#43 Apr 2, 2010
The Management makes the decisions NOT the ones who work under Management. Get that throuhg your thick pointy heads. If you don't like what Management tells you , then you go work somwheres else.It's disgusting that ther was a lawyer even wulling to consider this case worth taking.
Aside from safety issues, and wage issues, who the hell are you to spout off about what your boss wants or says? Like it or leave it.
tobitheplow

Mcminnville, TN

#44 Apr 2, 2010
Give this punk's JOB to someone that wants and needs it.

Since: Mar 09

Knoxville, TN

#45 Apr 2, 2010
Johnny wrote:
To bad dude. Tennessee is a "Right to work State", which bascially means they can fire you at any time without motice for any reason.
Look, some people have to work on Sundays. Many miss their childrens ballgames because of work, among other things. It is more important to take care of your family, and I would bet Jesus would tell you the same thing.
Go to church Sunday night, also most Christian denominations have a service on wednesday evenings.
Or this guy could do as I did and convert to the Roman Catholic Church, and he can go to Mass about any day he wants.
You confuse "right to work" with employment at will. Right to work means you don't have to join a union. Employment at will means you can be terminated for good reason, bad reason, or no reason at all. However, certain statutes create protected categories as an exception to at-will. Those categories include; age, race, ethnicity, religion and sex.
sponge bob

Morristown, TN

#46 Apr 2, 2010
Slowhand2009 wrote:
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You confuse "right to work" with employment at will. Right to work means you don't have to join a union. Employment at will means you can be terminated for good reason, bad reason, or no reason at all. However, certain statutes create protected categories as an exception to at-will. Those categories include; age, race, ethnicity, religion and sex.
So if your not of protected class status the employer can fire you for having bad breath on Monday. That is why this state needs unions,not for wages , but for the abuse of workers, keeping them powerless.
april

United States

#47 Apr 2, 2010
I have worked at Home Depot and Lowe's in management. Part of my job was schedules and before you are hired, you are told that working weekends is a part of it. So regardless of what you believe in, you knew what was required of you to keep your job, and honestly if this had happened while I was working there, I would have cut his hours too.

Since: Mar 09

Knoxville, TN

#48 Apr 2, 2010
sponge bob wrote:
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So if your not of protected class status the employer can fire you for having bad breath on Monday. That is why this state needs unions,not for wages , but for the abuse of workers, keeping them powerless.
It is a two-way street Comrade. You are free to leave at any time to accept another job and your employer cannot make you stay. Of course, you realize that most employers don't dream of doing such things. Turnover is expensive and it takes time to train new employees. Look around you, how many people are fired for no reason? Few, if any. Most of us are employed without the need for Guido and the Union to protect us.
tobitheplow

Mcminnville, TN

#49 Apr 2, 2010
That Boy needs a good spanking

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#50 Apr 2, 2010
I thought that, according to Christian ideology, Jesus negated the necessity of following all the laws in the Old Testament, including observing the sabbath?
sponge bob

Morristown, TN

#51 Apr 2, 2010
Slowhand2009 wrote:
<quoted text>
It is a two-way street Comrade. You are free to leave at any time to accept another job and your employer cannot make you stay. Of course, you realize that most employers don't dream of doing such things. Turnover is expensive and it takes time to train new employees. Look around you, how many people are fired for no reason? Few, if any. Most of us are employed without the need for Guido and the Union to protect us.
Honestly, you don't know what your talking about. I've seen it and been involved in it. Being told to put the heat on a worker because the boss doesn't like him,and you try to justify it by saying its nothing personel its only my job.Bull, we live in a new age where people are expendable, where slave labor is only a boat ride away. But don't worry, all those costs you say that unions put on business, insurance,vacations,40hr work week,safety, etc. These are what makes a civilized society unlike Mexico, China, Honduras,where corporations have free reign. Nations of no freedom and pure hell.

Since: Mar 10

Redditch, UK

#52 Apr 2, 2010
Sandztimes wrote:
It will be thrown out the sabbath from Jewish customs was and still is from sunset Friday night until sunset Saturday night. It never has and never will have anything to do with the sabbath being on sunday it makes no sense.
exactly,where did sunday come from?, I mean when it comes to sabbath.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#53 Apr 2, 2010
celin27 wrote:
<quoted text>exactly,where did sunday come from?, I mean when it comes to sabbath.
Man named all the days of the week with the seventh day respected as the Sabbath day.Some religions respect this day as Sunday the seventh day from the start of the week.Other religions recognize another day in the week as the Sabbath day.

Since: Apr 10

Alameda, CA

#54 Apr 2, 2010
I remember when very few store were open on Sunday. A liquor store or maybe a grocery store would be the only business open.

That was the 60's.
I Believe

Morristown, TN

#55 Apr 2, 2010
celin27 wrote:
<quoted text>exactly,where did sunday come from?, I mean when it comes to sabbath.
A good question. For groups like Seventh Day Adventist, the Sabbath is on Saturday. For Jews, it was 6pm on Friday to 6pm on Saturday. Christians celebrate the Sabbath on Sunday..the first day of the week because that was the day they believe Christ rose from the grave. The day isn't that important, but setting aside a "Sabbath" day to worship and allow your body to renew itself is. That was what God did on the Sabbath. Not a bad example to follow.
Steve

Dayton, OH

#56 Apr 2, 2010
At Milacron where we were paid to work M-F and salaried they kept pushing further OT then Saturday further and further until they crossed the line into Sunday. One person spoke up said "he had a problem with that"...and they backed down the very same day.
Sometimes it only takes ONE person.
No Way to Lose

United States

#57 Apr 2, 2010
Did he not work at Lowes for over 7 years? Why did this problem just suddenly occur? Most people do have to work some weekends, during a lifetime. If the business is open seven days a week and basically always has been, why the problem just now? If he/she was dissatisfied with working on Sunday, then just leave a find another job. They are so easy to find right now, lol. Just a bit of "frivolous news" on a slow news day, obviously.
Rhyme Tyme

Kingsport, TN

#58 Apr 3, 2010
Can't work on Sunday, its against my belief.
What was my employer thinking?-good grief!

I can work six other days with no problem at all.
Making me work on Sunday puts my back up against the wall.

I don't want to work just that one day in the week.
Dis whole workin on Sunday mess just looks so bleak.

Ain't hard to please, jus want off every Sunday though.
Dat way My religious energy can really flow!
alexandre

Kahramanmaras, Turkey

#59 Apr 3, 2010
Yeah there hunderds who'd like to have that job a working on Sunday and most of 'em would thumb their nose at a feller telling them they ought not work on Sunday too and when they wind up in the Lake of Fire and brimstone why they might have a change of mind but itll be too late for 'em and they'' be a gnashing their teeth and burning for an eternity.
http://bilge-kagan.org
truth

Salem, OH

#60 Apr 3, 2010
and the bible also says you should not sue..sounds like a hypocrite to me.
yes

Mcminnville, TN

#61 Apr 3, 2010
I worked at a place that was tolerant of a persons beliefs and they would not make them work a day that was against their beliefs but if that person ever decided he needed extra cash and volunteered to work a Sunday or what ever they were never allowed to turn down working in that day again.
when I found out this policy after working there a while being the joking person I am I went to the "carpet" and ask if it was true that if it were against my religion then the company would not force me to work those days.
They said yes and with as straight a face as possible I ask if I could start exercising that privilege even though I had worked those gays and did not know I had a choice, the PR lady said I could and ask what denomination I was and what days I did not feel right about working on.
I told her I was a member of a small denomination called the [567 Luther avengistists] or something like that and we did not believe in working in Fridays through Sundays and the only days we could work were Mon-Thurs and I had to have all weekends off.
she had the oddest look on her face because she had no idea what to do.
she had basically given me every weekend off.
I fiinally started laughing and told her I was just joking and that my supervisor put me up to doing it.
she was very relieved and got a good laugh and said she had better learn to find out more info before she just starts answering questions strictly by company policy.
That did one thing though, it got me on good terms with her and I think it helped because I Did get a couple promotions that really should have one to other people but PR had final say so in all that.
Back to this story, I think there is more to it than we have been told.
Almost anyone that works retail unless youwork at chick filet will have to work a sunday,
I say suck it up and be happy you still have a job.
If he is scheduled to work Sunday and is not there then fire him and fight against him getting unemployment. He has a job which is more that lots of people can say right now.
I know a man that worked at Mahle who was also a pastor of a small church, Mal would allow him to leave work early or come in late or even leave and come back to finish his shift.
when we ask him about it he would always say something about if an ox is stuck you better free it asap and he was pretty sure god would understand that there was some things a man had to do and could not be helped and feeding his family would be one of those things.

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