General Bill Ginn' USAF(ret) & conver...

General Bill Ginn' USAF(ret) & conversation w/Obama

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Sandy Gamble

Kingsport, TN

#1 Oct 21, 2008
ANYONE WITH A GRAIN OF INTELLIGENCE WHO READ THAT SUPPOSED CONVERSATION WOULD HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT NO CANDIDATE RUNNING FOR ANY OFFICE, LET ALONE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, WOULD HAVE EVER MADE SUCH COMMENTS WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN POLITICAL FODDER FOR THE OPPOSING PARTY AND WOULD HAVE HAD THIS GENERAL ON CAMPAIGN ADS NIGHT AND DAY. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POLITICAL SUICIDE TO HAVE MADE SUCH STATEMENTS.
I DO NOT KNOW YOUR AGENDA, BUT REGARDLESS OF A PERSON'S POLITICAL AFFILIATION, ONLY THE TRUTH - T - R - U - T - H, SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC, AND SIR THIS IS NOT THE TRUTH!!!! I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHERE THIS SUPPOSED CONVERSATION TOOK PLACE, WHO WAS AROUND, WAS IT VIDEO TAPED AND IF SO PRODUCE THE TAPE. IT DEFINITELY WAS NOT ON MEET THE PRESS. IT IS VERY EASY TO FIND OUT THE GUESTS ON MEET THE PRESS AND NEITHER GENTLEMEN WHO SUPPOSEDLY HAD THIS CONVERSATION WERE IN ATTENDANCE. SO WHERE DID IT TAKE PLACE?
WE HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS IN OUR BELOVED COUNTRY THAN TO SPEW OUT HATRED AND LIES!!!!
Debbie in Detroit

AOL

#2 Oct 23, 2008
If you go to the "Meet The Press" web site and enter "Bill Ginn" it is verified on their site with the following: "Calling Omaha-The Daily Nightly - msbc.com and reads,
"Sun 07 Sept 2008 11:48:04 EST, General Bill Ginn USAF (Ret) asked Obama to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played."
http//daily nightly.msnbc/archive/2008/10/ 01/1477.125.aspx
However, right beneath the search results showing
the date and time of the interview is another result of the search:
"Shine A Light - The Daily Nightly - msnbc.co
That "strange reason" could be that it appears
the interview happened but has been buried and unobtainable so that it cannot be verified, which is shamelesss and biased journalism.
If these comments are true we need to see them in print and verified in the interest of both candidates. Why is it posted on the web site as an msbnc interview yet it cannot be found? Hmmmmmm. That's definitely "strange".!
If this a smear tactic, why doesn't msnbc reveal the actual interview?
Step up to the plate msnbc--Did it happen, or not?
Mike in pennsylvania

Levittown, PA

#3 Oct 23, 2008
WOW.. i went there. I see the beginning of the same article but when you click on the link it takes you somewhere else. I wonder why? I'd really like to see the truth behind this. I mean therte has to be a reason that Obama acts the way he does towarsds our flag. I'd like to hear his side of the story.
Mary Beth Lesko

Bloomsburg, PA

#4 Oct 23, 2008
I, too have searched for this article General Bill Ginn (USAF Ret.) questions with Barak Obama, and cannot find it.
This country is in serious trouble when their newspapers bury important information needing to be seen by Americans working to make the RIGHT decision in choosing the next Commander in Chief of this great country.
MSNBC - step up to the plate and print it all!
Brian in Georgia

Grand Rapids, MI

#5 Oct 23, 2008
I'm amazed with what is going on!!! The flag is a major issue along with all the other half stories we get. If these were not true Obama should say so. If they are true were in trouble! So an answer on this issue would be nice an answer on why Obama has so many ties to people outside the US is crazy!
As I drive down road I don't see any Obama signs. Only McCain so where and who are the people voting for Obama. McCain's wife has more experience than Obama. The Palin has more experience than Obama. Then he has Iranian's helping with his thought's. I see major issues coming up between whites, black and muslims!!!!
it won't be nice. God Bless America!!!! We need it.
Brian in Georgia

Grand Rapids, MI

#6 Oct 23, 2008
To me it's simple. Christians - Muslims.
Based on the names alone how could you vote for Obama. Profiling is smart. If i see someone who looks dangerous I'm staying away. Just his name alone is too much. The list goes on and on. the only thing Obama says is let's change the greatest nation in the history of the world.
Why?
I hope you get what you vote for! A reversal on masters! Go to the fields and get your ass to work! you won't get to keep any of your hard earned money, but again if you vote for Obama you most likey never worked anyway.

Since: Oct 08

Morristown, TN

#7 Oct 23, 2008
Here's the scoop folks. No conspiracy here by the newspaper because it NEVER happened. Obama was NOT on Meet the Press on September 7th. A satirist by the name of John Semmons wrote the article as a joke and the McCain camp has been e-mailing to gullible folks who will believe anything. Check it out. It never happened. Your right when you say this country is in serious trouble. You're believing just what you want to believe.
Randy in NJ

Media, PA

#8 Oct 24, 2008
Right on Dude. If this dialogue actually exists...1) Why hasn't it been a centerpiece of the already massive smear campaign that the McCain campaign is running. Something this extreme would be in every sector of media 24 hours a day. 2) Where is the hard proof that this conversation took place. I still haven't seen any website that shows hard proof that this conversation occured. Someone on this post please provide tangible proof or stop spreading the lies. And by the way Brian, your views are exactly what's wrong with this country. Travel a little to other countries around the world and see how things work. Talk to the citizens about how their lives are affected by government, positively or negatively, and then compare a little with open eyes. This is the greatest country in the world but that claim is a product of our forefathers, not the country that we see today. Our political leadership is in shambles, our economy is a wreck, our image in the world is questionable as a result of the Bush administration, our dollar value sucks and a decent education or health insurance policy will put you into bankruptcy. Trust me, there are alot of countries in the world that we can take a few lessons from.

Since: Oct 08

Morristown, TN

#9 Oct 24, 2008
I'm going to make it easy on everybody. Do this google

john semmons satire

Now you know the rest of the story.
Dale in MN

United States

#10 Oct 24, 2008
Randy, if there are so many things wrong with this great nation and if other countries are so wonderful, why are you still here? The problem with the people of this country is that too many of them expect handouts and freebies. People forget that the foundation of thei country allows them more freedom and liberties than any other country. Even if all they want to do is complain and collect their welfare check. When people spew complaints about this country and blame Bush they are only being a clone for the main stream media which have blatantly admitted they are all in the tank for the Democrat Party no matter how crazy their socialist ideas are. The only thing we can learn from other countries is what not to do. Yet, their are too many politicians on both sides who don't learn from history and try to repeat the same failures. We need to elect good people who have a clue and the people voting need to get a clue. Don't believe everything you hear and see in print. Educate yourselves and find the answers.
Republicans 4 ObamaBiden

Sammamish, WA

#11 Oct 24, 2008
I used to work for a non-partisan radio station that strictly reported news & they use snopes.com as one of their fact checkers.

Here is the fact check regarding this topic:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.a...

IT IS FALSE. The reason why you can't find the interview of Obama on "Meet The Press" that supposedly happened on Sept. 7th is because he was never on the show. This was a smear tactic that was written by a syndicated columnist named John Semmens, whose columns are posted on the Web site The Arizona Conservative. DON'T BE FOOLED. Empower yourself with knowledge, not stupidity and fear.
Republicans 4 ObamaBiden

Sammamish, WA

#12 Oct 24, 2008
BTW, "Debbie in Detroit" - you are dumb as rocks.

WHY???

1) The story is false, yet you have psyched yourself into believing there is a conspiracy.

2) You stated " msbc.com " in your post - it is the Morning Star Baptist Church's website

MSNBC.COM is an actual news website, I'm not sure if you are trying to purposely mislead people or if you need to take typing classes.(Probably the latter)

3) http//daily nightly.msnbc/archive/2008/10/ 01/1477.125.aspx - THAT IS NOT A VAILD WEB ADDRESS (type it in the browser for yourself before citing the web address as a source of info)
Gary

United States

#13 Oct 24, 2008
The guess schedule does not show either of them even appearing on Sept 7th? If obama had said thoes things McCain would be playing it in every commercial he could get on TV.
Sandy Gamble wrote:
ANYONE WITH A GRAIN OF INTELLIGENCE WHO READ THAT SUPPOSED CONVERSATION WOULD HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT NO CANDIDATE RUNNING FOR ANY OFFICE, LET ALONE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, WOULD HAVE EVER MADE SUCH COMMENTS WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN POLITICAL FODDER FOR THE OPPOSING PARTY AND WOULD HAVE HAD THIS GENERAL ON CAMPAIGN ADS NIGHT AND DAY. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POLITICAL SUICIDE TO HAVE MADE SUCH STATEMENTS.
I DO NOT KNOW YOUR AGENDA, BUT REGARDLESS OF A PERSON'S POLITICAL AFFILIATION, ONLY THE TRUTH - T - R - U - T - H, SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC, AND SIR THIS IS NOT THE TRUTH!!!! I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHERE THIS SUPPOSED CONVERSATION TOOK PLACE, WHO WAS AROUND, WAS IT VIDEO TAPED AND IF SO PRODUCE THE TAPE. IT DEFINITELY WAS NOT ON MEET THE PRESS. IT IS VERY EASY TO FIND OUT THE GUESTS ON MEET THE PRESS AND NEITHER GENTLEMEN WHO SUPPOSEDLY HAD THIS CONVERSATION WERE IN ATTENDANCE. SO WHERE DID IT TAKE PLACE?
WE HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS IN OUR BELOVED COUNTRY THAN TO SPEW OUT HATRED AND LIES!!!!
Hampton

Johnson City, TN

#14 Oct 24, 2008
Republicans 4 ObamaBinladin:
Any other floor sweeper in any radio station would know that the media is bias and is pro-Nobama. Wake up and smell the filafil.
mr logic

AOL

#15 Oct 25, 2008
Sandy Gamble wrote:
ANYONE WITH A GRAIN OF INTELLIGENCE WHO READ THAT SUPPOSED CONVERSATION WOULD HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT NO CANDIDATE RUNNING FOR ANY OFFICE, LET ALONE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, WOULD HAVE EVER MADE SUCH COMMENTS WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN POLITICAL FODDER FOR THE OPPOSING PARTY AND WOULD HAVE HAD THIS GENERAL ON CAMPAIGN ADS NIGHT AND DAY. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POLITICAL SUICIDE TO HAVE MADE SUCH STATEMENTS.
I DO NOT KNOW YOUR AGENDA, BUT REGARDLESS OF A PERSON'S POLITICAL AFFILIATION, ONLY THE TRUTH - T - R - U - T - H, SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC, AND SIR THIS IS NOT THE TRUTH!!!! I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHERE THIS SUPPOSED CONVERSATION TOOK PLACE, WHO WAS AROUND, WAS IT VIDEO TAPED AND IF SO PRODUCE THE TAPE. IT DEFINITELY WAS NOT ON MEET THE PRESS. IT IS VERY EASY TO FIND OUT THE GUESTS ON MEET THE PRESS AND NEITHER GENTLEMEN WHO SUPPOSEDLY HAD THIS CONVERSATION WERE IN ATTENDANCE. SO WHERE DID IT TAKE PLACE?
WE HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS IN OUR BELOVED COUNTRY THAN TO SPEW OUT HATRED AND LIES!!!!
interesting that they let you post in caps but won't let me! Urgggg Do these People understand that we put time to do this then can't post and have to type all over again?
mr logic

AOL

#16 Oct 25, 2008
i too have a hard time belieivng that obama would be dumb enough to openly make such a statement, but there is no doubt that he feels this way. i have seen the video where he doen't put his hand over his heart and i saw a pix on aol saying that it was the controversial pix, and showed a still where he was putting his hand over his heart! how crazy is that????
how could a pix of him doing it be controversal?

we all know for a fact that his wife stated that she has always been ashamed of america. look in the mirror honey. all that "we shall overcome" to do what? go to a segregated church for 20 years? hard to believe that any hopeful prez wife would say such a thing, very hard so maybe i will deny what i know, i and milliions of others heard.
i told my psychiatrist friend from the start of "he goes to an african american church" that it was a racist black church. they all are that is why they don't interate, hello!!!!

his pastor is no diff. than any other seg. church pastor. did obama's little girl walk hand in hand to church with a little white girl as mlk jr. say we needed in america?
the media tried to half way hide that their purpose was to get a superficial liberal in the last time, but since they lost they don't even try to hide their agenda now. they are un american for using entertainment to push their fanatical views.
mary

Loveland, CO

#17 Oct 25, 2008
I hope everyone is spending at least some time looking into and understanding how our country operates now and why we need to make changes in concrete areas concerning all Americans as well as our relationship to the world (education, economics, environment, and the basic humane idea of taking care of each other; which is not socialism but simple human respect and resonsibility). Flag pins, flags, songs, clothes, and conspiracy theories that "that one" will arise as some kind of leader with dishonerable intentions is just getting to be a "tired" excuse for people who are wanting to be Democrat or Republican and be in their own "winning" group. Think about it, if you are wanting to win and have someone else lose...is that really going to help anyone. We are in this together, sink or float. Remember, we are the citizens and we are in charge. That is the real change that needs to happen. Stop worrying about silly details and empower yourself to vote on issues that are important from San Fran to Iowa to New York to Florida. I bet Bin Laden is laughing at all of us as we try to self destruct. Could we please get the train back on the track....help each other...and get our country organized to help every citizen.
BJT

Morristown, TN

#18 Oct 25, 2008
mr logic wrote:
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interesting that they let you post in caps but won't let me! Urgggg Do these People understand that we put time to do this then can't post and have to type all over again?
Who are "THEY"?

Since: Oct 08

Morristown, TN

#19 Oct 25, 2008
BJT wrote:
<quoted text>
Who are "THEY"?
It's the internet police, man. Next thing ya know, they'll be forcing us to use spellcheck. I think it's a conspiracy, but no clue who is behind it.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#20 Oct 25, 2008
Dude Lebowski wrote:
<quoted text>It's the internet police, man. Next thing ya know, they'll be forcing us to use spellcheck. I think it's a conspiracy, but no clue who is behind it.
Dude, I have tried to educate the masses on the joys of spell check, but to no avail. I have thrown in the towel. If I caint beet um I weel jest haf to join um, I spose.

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