Who are the best golfers in Morristown?
NoSilverSpoon

Morristown, TN

#201 Jul 26, 2008
Barry Black Jenkins III wrote:
I will end the debate right now about Oscar's, Millstone, etc. For I am...Barry Black Jenkins III.
You see...if you hit one down the middle at Oscar's, you pretty much land in the rough at Millstone.
So, at Oscar's...you are in the rough no matter what the situation.
The greens are smaller at Oscar's and larger at Millstone. Millstone does an excellent job of keeping their greens in top-notch shape..At Oscar's..the greens will make your ball bounce.
Overall, Millstone is suppose to be a tougher course. But, due to the unforeseen obstacles (greens, rough fairways) Oscar's is also equally tough.
Millstone is very forgiving for a PGA Certified Course. Try playing in areas such as Myrtle Beach, etc. where you have to keep the ball tight. This will make you a better golfer.
So, the moral of the story is....Rednecks stay at Oscar's and let the middle class play at Millstone.
For the rich, try the Country Club, it's the best of both Oscar's and Millstone. Or pretty much..rename it Oscar Millstone.
How many possible ways are there to say "take your middle class" and shove it?

You know, it's a sad day when some fool thinks that golf is all about wealth and privilege. I've played at TCC many, many times and if it's the best money has to buy, then somebody got ripped off. Being a member of TCC doesn't hold near the stature that some think.

As for Millstone, a blind-man on crutches could play and never find himself in trouble. It's too wide open and non-challenging. Again, those who think that being a member there holds some special status for them are dead wrong.

I may just be another "redneck" from Oscar's but the fact is that if we can play through all of the so-called adversities there and still shoot below par, imagine what we can do to "better" golf courses. All you've got to do is name the place and time. In other words, put your money where your mouth is.
TCC

Jefferson City, TN

#202 Jul 26, 2008
NoSilverSpoon wrote:
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How many possible ways are there to say "take your middle class" and shove it?
You know, it's a sad day when some fool thinks that golf is all about wealth and privilege. I've played at TCC many, many times and if it's the best money has to buy, then somebody got ripped off. Being a member of TCC doesn't hold near the stature that some think.
As for Millstone, a blind-man on crutches could play and never find himself in trouble. It's too wide open and non-challenging. Again, those who think that being a member there holds some special status for them are dead wrong.
I may just be another "redneck" from Oscar's but the fact is that if we can play through all of the so-called adversities there and still shoot below par, imagine what we can do to "better" golf courses. All you've got to do is name the place and time. In other words, put your money where your mouth is.
Well said. Ya know, I've noticed something as a long time member of TCC. In describing the unique challenges of the course, I would suggest that it is not sand, or water that offers the greatest hazard. Instead, it seems that playing through the thick ego hazard so generated by a distinct minority of the membership poses the most potent hazard. That being said, the vast majority of the membership consists of decent, wholesome individuals and families that play golf as a form of recreation. There are, however, shallow folk that equate money with goodness in a most unfortunate context. Bottom line, it's just a game. Much like checkers and a friggin' etch-a sketch. I've played at Oscar's and loved it....and TCC and loved it. It's just a game.
Barry Black Jenkins III

Morristown, TN

#203 Jul 26, 2008
Ok, for the Oscar's.
You keep playing the same nine holes over and over and over and over and over. Then, go ahead and mix in a bologna sandwich and a card game.
Then, you put your shirt on..after playing nine holes.
Golf is a game of etiquette. How in the world could anyone ever compare Oscar's to Millstone.
What a joke.
Need info

Lenoir City, TN

#204 Jul 27, 2008
Does anyone know who won the 5 man scramble at Oscar's this weekend? Whoever led their team to victory should prove who the best golfer in Morristown is!!! Anyone who leads their team to victory thru about a 7 hour round should be voted #1.
Update

Morristown, TN

#205 Jul 27, 2008
Who's the idiot quoting 7 hour rounds? Both days rounds were about 4 1/2 hours which is good for a 5 man scramble.
And by the way, Harry Back Stinkins the Turd, I agree with you about there being no comparison between Oscars and Millstoned. At Oscars you don't have to put up with planes all day, no trains to damage your hearing, the pro is actually nice to non-members who come play and says "Thank You", and the bologna sandwiches are the best around. And by the way, the greens at Oscars are without a doubt the best of any course mentioned. They are roughly the same size in area as the ones at Harbour Town, a regular stop for the PGA. I guess that track doesn't compare to Millstone either.
spencer

United States

#206 Jul 27, 2008
need info i know some players from lost creek and another team not sure where from shot 17 under and split first there were several 16. I regret to tell some on here noone from tcc or millstone did to well. Teams are supposed to consist of a thru e players but to allow for more teams from other courses some teams consisted of couple of a's and and b's its kinda funny the teams from the other course basically bring there on teams and still have trouble on the goat ranch. I think all that played in the scramble will agree it was a very well run tournament. Buddy does a job out there and like someone else here said he is a class acted He is great to members and exceptionally nice to non members from my experience at some other local courses thats rare. I have played at oscars since i was 5 and im 38 now and have played the other local courses and wouldn't wanna be a member anywhere else. There are alot of changes coming new club house and a new 9 i encourage any1 on here who has played the course to come out and try your skills its a different game and you can't beat the members and the staff.
yes

Morristown, TN

#207 Jul 28, 2008
Can't get in trouble at Millstone? I can imagine you all are the guys that roll em in the fairway, and if you happen to hit your banana slice in the rough...you use the footwedge to place it on ya a nice fluffy lie. Whereas at oscar's, you can hit the fairway and have a bad lie. But there is no rough. Theres some trouble on number 4, but nothing major. We can compare apples to oranges all day long, but you all have shown your golf knowledge by some of the most asinine comments I've seen.

As for Spencer, you hit the nail on the head where you said you've played there since you were 5. You grew up and you are partial to that course. I am in no way trying to demean the course or say that you are not a decent golfer. But I will promise you, if you brought 10 golfers (5 hdcp or better) from out of state to all 3 courses. 1 of them would select Oscar's as the favorite. But like I said, don't take it personally.

And by the way, I've never actually shot a bad round at Oscar's. So NoSilverSpoon, find another reason to bash me. Ya clown.
yes is confused

Morristown, TN

#208 Jul 28, 2008
Are you sure you're not trying to demean oscars? And you're right about comparing the shiny, juicy apple that is oscars to the rotten, soured orange that is millstone.
yes

Morristown, TN

#209 Jul 28, 2008
yes is confused wrote:
Are you sure you're not trying to demean oscars? And you're right about comparing the shiny, juicy apple that is oscars to the rotten, soured orange that is millstone.
And your handicap is what 20? Or is it your brain?
yes is confused

Morristown, TN

#210 Jul 28, 2008
Wow. Brilliant retort. Enjoy the rest of the summer before you have to report for the first day of middle school.
yes

Morristown, TN

#211 Jul 28, 2008
No I was being serious. It would be a lot easier to see your point of view once we realize your USGA handicap. I'll go out on a limb and bet it's not that good.

Since: Feb 08

Nashville, TN

#212 Jul 28, 2008
I've played several courses in the area and they all have their positives and negatives.

Oscar's is a good ole boy course and I enjoy playing there, I don't think you can beat their greens right now. They may be a little small but they're consistent.

I'm about a 18 handicapper and I've shot my lowest rounds at Millstone. In five or six more years I think that will be a little tougher to do. If they would work on their customer service I would probably play there more. Can't remember the guy's name, I think his last name is Hayes, he's about the only friendly person there.

Clinchview is nice but there's an elephant laid to rest in every green. How can you make a decent putt there?

Baneberry is tougher than any course in this area. I'm not saying it's the best, just the hardest. I've seen some really good players wind up with some sevens and eights on their score card.

TCC is alright, just not my favorite place, I guess because I've only played there 3 or 4 times. It's been a year or so since I've played there but I do remember a couple tough par 3's.

Lost Creek is one of my favorites as far as local courses. I know the greens are hairier than a dogs back but I love the layout. Roger Price is one of the nicest guys I've met and they always let you know how much the appreciate your business.

White Pine is another course I enjoy playing, some very nice folks running the place.

I'll never go back to Smokey Mountain in Newport, that course kicked my ass on the back 9.

If I can make the day of it, I'm going to River Islands or Graysburg Hill's, nothing around here compares to either one of them.

I've played a few of the other courses around Knoxville, does anyone know of some other good course within 30 miles?

Anyone who plays the game is pretty fortunate to live in our area, there's no shortage of nice courses within 40 miles. I pretty much like them all as long as I'm playing and not working.
yes

Morristown, TN

#213 Jul 28, 2008
cedarhillcrew wrote:
I've played several courses in the area and they all have their positives and negatives.
Oscar's is a good ole boy course and I enjoy playing there, I don't think you can beat their greens right now. They may be a little small but they're consistent.
I'm about a 18 handicapper and I've shot my lowest rounds at Millstone. In five or six more years I think that will be a little tougher to do. If they would work on their customer service I would probably play there more. Can't remember the guy's name, I think his last name is Hayes, he's about the only friendly person there.
Clinchview is nice but there's an elephant laid to rest in every green. How can you make a decent putt there?
Baneberry is tougher than any course in this area. I'm not saying it's the best, just the hardest. I've seen some really good players wind up with some sevens and eights on their score card.
TCC is alright, just not my favorite place, I guess because I've only played there 3 or 4 times. It's been a year or so since I've played there but I do remember a couple tough par 3's.
Lost Creek is one of my favorites as far as local courses. I know the greens are hairier than a dogs back but I love the layout. Roger Price is one of the nicest guys I've met and they always let you know how much the appreciate your business.
White Pine is another course I enjoy playing, some very nice folks running the place.
I'll never go back to Smokey Mountain in Newport, that course kicked my ass on the back 9.
If I can make the day of it, I'm going to River Islands or Graysburg Hill's, nothing around here compares to either one of them.
I've played a few of the other courses around Knoxville, does anyone know of some other good course within 30 miles?
Anyone who plays the game is pretty fortunate to live in our area, there's no shortage of nice courses within 40 miles. I pretty much like them all as long as I'm playing and not working.
Scott Hayes is the guy you are talking about from Millstone. He's a real nice guy, not a bad golfer either.

As far as Smoky Mountain...that course is borderline goof golf. However, number 10 was for a long time ranked in the top 5 hardest holes in Tennessee.

Ruggles Ferry is another nice layout that you should try. Not very difficult, but I would put it right below Graysburg and River Islands. Also if you have a free weekend and don't mind driving much there is a Jack Nicklaus design in Crossville called Bear Trace. Definitely worth the trip. Another course that is very difficult but very niec is The Ridges in Johnson City/Gray area. It's where ETSU plays their matches.

I recently played in a tournament at Tennessee National...that was a treat. Very nice course. It is private however.

There are some very nice courses within a reasonable distance from us in the Lakeway Area. Even courses that are host to Nationwide qualifiers. Somehow I bet that Oscar's won't be hosting any of these qualifiers anytime soon though.

Since: Feb 08

Nashville, TN

#214 Jul 28, 2008
I've played Ruggles Ferry several times, it is a nice course.

Played Laurel Valley in Townsend, good course but the damn bugs in the summer will drive you crazy.

Patriot Hills isn't bad, but I would rather play a course that doesn't have so many houses around it. That's the only thing I don't like about Baneberry, well that and number 11 and 13.

Some of the courses I haven't played that I should is Woodlake, Bear Trace, Eagle's Landing, and any other course within 30 minutes from the house.

Anyone played Mt. Mitchell over in western NC? A buddy said that was a nice place to spend the weekend and play.
pro v 1

Knoxville, TN

#215 Jul 28, 2008
I played Woodlake this past Thursday and booked through Golfnow.com and paid 19.95 to play it. I thought that was a great price and we really enjoyed the course. Talk about scenic and tough as nails! Out of bounds plays in on alot of the holes and there are alot of tight shots but I will drive the 30 minutes from twon to play it again. I played River Island the week before and would rank Woodlake as nice a course with a really nice pro shop as anywhere around here. As for the Oscar's debate... I grew up on TCC and as I was learning played Oscars at least once a week and if anyone rememmbers the old guy who had the driving range behind Oscar's, well, I spent some time back there hacking balls as I was learning. So I believe that I have a fair opinion of both places as well as Millstone and many other courses that we play weekly. Oscar's has a different type of reputation by many people becasue of the perception of the people who play it. The cut off blue jeans and wife beaters etc. really do exist there and until even when they get the next 9 holes and condo's, clubhouse etc. if you allow people to play the course and throw cigareete butts on the green and think nothing of it..Oscar's will remain as it is. You can't buy or build etiquette or class. I've seen people driving carts across the greens and throwing empty beer cans out in sand traps out there. Anyplace else would kick you off the course and ban you for alot less.
confused

Morristown, TN

#216 Jul 28, 2008
Say you've seen people throw beer cans in the sand traps at oscars. Exactly which hole was that? Since there are no sand bunkers at Oscar's I'm a little curious. I guess along with "class" and "etiquette" you also can't buy "Honesty". If you're gonna dog Oscar's, don't make up stuff.
yes

Morristown, TN

#217 Jul 28, 2008
confused wrote:
Say you've seen people throw beer cans in the sand traps at oscars. Exactly which hole was that? Since there are no sand bunkers at Oscar's I'm a little curious. I guess along with "class" and "etiquette" you also can't buy "Honesty". If you're gonna dog Oscar's, don't make up stuff.
I'm still waiting on your response to the question I asked you earlier Dandridge...you took time to get at whoever posted that...but can't answer my question.
old school

Morristown, TN

#218 Jul 28, 2008
You people should be happy to play anywhere.
Each course argued about here has its advantages, and a real golfer can adjust to what ever the course throws at them.
I like them all

TCC-Old School big mature greens, fast hard to read greens. Supreme shape all year

Millstone- Nice links style, fairly easy, only complaint is the greens are usually beat up.

Oscars- perfect greens, and not an easy course, so its not plush like some of the others, its a challange to play a course that will give you a hard lie, can only make you a better golfer.

Other courses close, Eagles landing is im my oppinion the toughest arround.
Played the Crossings in Joneborough last weekend
That place is very very nice.
old school

Morristown, TN

#219 Jul 28, 2008
I ment mature trees at TCC not greens
NoSilverSpoon

Morristown, TN

#220 Jul 28, 2008
old school wrote:
You people should be happy to play anywhere.
Each course argued about here has its advantages, and a real golfer can adjust to what ever the course throws at them.
I like them all
TCC-Old School big mature greens, fast hard to read greens. Supreme shape all year
Millstone- Nice links style, fairly easy, only complaint is the greens are usually beat up.
Oscars- perfect greens, and not an easy course, so its not plush like some of the others, its a challange to play a course that will give you a hard lie, can only make you a better golfer.
Other courses close, Eagles landing is im my oppinion the toughest arround.
Played the Crossings in Joneborough last weekend
That place is very very nice.
You know Old School, you're right. We should feel happy just to play. Regardless of what might be said about any course here, the fact of the matter is that the members of that course are going to defend it. It really doesn't matter what someone who rarely plays there thinks about it.

This thread started out as a question about who the best golfers in Morristown were. It's true that Andrew Price is a fantastic player. For raw talent, there's nobody in town that can beat him. The one thing that Andrew lacks and will continue to haunt him is his lack of mental toughness. Some may disagree with me and that's fine. The fact is that with his distance, he should be pro. The only thing stopping him is his inabliity to prepare himself mentally for the challenge.

Rex Sheppard, Buddy McMahan, Tim and Mark Standifer are all great golfers. Ronnie Pack and Bruce Lewis are still strong golfers even though they may not play as often as they used to. In the seniors bracket, Dick Ballew is as good as anyone his age and better than most younger than him. A new young talent in town is Brandon Sexton. This young man has GAME. At 18, he played as the "A" man on his Calcutta team at Oscars this weekend. I don't know of anyone else in town who is as good an all-around golfer at his age.

We can all agree to disagree about a lot of things. However, I will stand by Oscars and the people who run it. We would all appreciate the courtesy of not being lumped into the stereotype of redneck simply because we aren't members of your home course. In doing so, you only make yourself look foolish, whether you see it or not.

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