Spanking children in public school

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Since: Oct 10

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#1 Nov 15, 2010
Does it bother anyone that Tennessee still allows corporal punishment in public school? You'd be surprised on how many times children receive spankings in Hamblen, Hawkins, Jefferson, Knox and other surrounding communities. What does everyone think about corporal punishment in schools? As for me, I think it shows how ignorant we are as a state. I would never give my permission to have a stranger punish my child in this manner. Your thoughts?
"Tennessee does have the right to use corporal punishment under the Tennessee State Law TCA-49-6-4104, which gives local school districts the authority to make rules governing the administration of corporal punishment to students" http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/4582...
out of the area now

Harrisonburg, VA

#2 Nov 15, 2010
They're supposed to call the parents before they do it. Most don't. My position is, if my kid does something that I feel deserves spanking, I will do it. If it happens in school and I think it calls for a swat, I will do it, not someone else. Too often paddlings are administered for minor stuff in the schools.

Since: Sep 09

Morristown, TN

#3 Nov 15, 2010
I grew up during a time when paddling was allowed in schools. Yes, I did get a few whacks on the rear and so did my classmates. My parents never considered it abuse, just discipline. I knew that I had to face the music when I got home. It was a rule if you got in trouble at school, you were in trouble at home. I survived it all. I think by limiting the teachers on punishments, we are taking away their authority in the classrooms. I think that students know that the teachers hands are tied, because most parents are very adament that noone else is going to spank their child. I do not think of teachers as strangers. I have entrusted my child in their care for the school day. I realize times have changed, not all for the good, but back when old-fashioned paddling was allowed, my mother never had to worry if I was safe at school.
Sage

Morristown, TN

#4 Nov 15, 2010
I've had kids in school in Morristown for years and I've never known of even one child being spanked during that time.
Curious

Morristown, TN

#5 Nov 15, 2010
They should be spanked. I guess you want your children to be spoiled little whiny brats,huh green jack o lantern?'My child doesn't need to be spanked' oh wah wah. a child needs discipline. If it takes the teacher to do what you should be doing,so be it. Don't raise your children to be wussies.
Mr Blister

United States

#6 Nov 15, 2010
Parents today are reluctant to discipline their children at home and they do not want teachers disciplining them at school and by the way most behave; they have figured out that there will be little or no consequence for anything they do.
When they are forced to live in the real world; most will be in for a rude awakening.
Let the teachers do their jobs and keep order in the classrooms. You will be surprised that little "Johnny" might be a better person for it.
lol

Hermitage, TN

#7 Nov 15, 2010
i agree thats whats wrong with these kids now days they are not whooped enough. i had whippings at school and at home,i turned out just fine. i thank my dad and the teachers that whooped me and kept me inline. parents that dont whoop there kids get to were they cant control them so they call the police well im here to tell ya the police is not babysitters and they dont get paid to raise your kids. yes you still have the right to whoop your kids. so start whooping them now before they turn out like the rest of these brat kids out here that have no respect for anyone.
in the know

Morristown, TN

#8 Nov 15, 2010
BeuIah wrote:
I grew up during a time when paddling was allowed in schools. Yes, I did get a few whacks on the rear and so did my classmates. My parents never considered it abuse, just discipline. I knew that I had to face the music when I got home. It was a rule if you got in trouble at school, you were in trouble at home. I survived it all. I think by limiting the teachers on punishments, we are taking away their authority in the classrooms. I think that students know that the teachers hands are tied, because most parents are very adament that noone else is going to spank their child. I do not think of teachers as strangers. I have entrusted my child in their care for the school day. I realize times have changed, not all for the good, but back when old-fashioned paddling was allowed, my mother never had to worry if I was safe at school.
I agree with u.. The rule was at my house u get paddling at school you get worse at home.. Now they wanna send kids home or in school suspension..Question whats the kids learning from sitting in a room alone all day.. Take the kids out of the class room doesnt seem very smart.. I dont beleive in abuse but a little smack on the tail never hurt anyone..
cc answers

Morristown, TN

#9 Nov 15, 2010
Mr Blister wrote:
Parents today are reluctant to discipline their children at home and they do not want teachers disciplining them at school and by the way most behave; they have figured out that there will be little or no consequence for anything they do.
When they are forced to live in the real world; most will be in for a rude awakening.
Let the teachers do their jobs and keep order in the classrooms. You will be surprised that little "Johnny" might be a better person for it.
I recall a study back in the seventies that showed about 15% of students would not mis-behave whether there was corporal punishment of not. Also, about 15% would mis-behave whether there was corporal punishment or not. It was the 70% in the middle whose behavior was affected the most. With the threat of corporal punishment this 70% behaved better. In the abscence of corporal punishment their behavior got worse. If you want people to drive around 75 miles per hour....set the speed limit at 70. Have no speed limit and....buckle your seat belts!!

Since: Apr 09

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#10 Nov 15, 2010
I also grew up through the years where paddling was allowed in the three schools that I attended.To the best of my knowledge, there NEVER was one school shooting or stabbing that I can remember.There is a difference between child abuse and child discipline.
When any child has no fear of ANY disciplinary actions, then they are free to carry out anything that they can get away with including aggression toward others.

There has to be some sort of guiding control of any child so they will not end up in prison or in a early grave.
Just take a look at some of the folks you have known growing up that were completely out of control.Chances are that they are either locked up somewhere, or lying in eternal rest.
Limerick

Morristown, TN

#11 Nov 15, 2010
I got my ass busted a many a time,
Lifting little girls dresses one favorite crime.

Sneaking out of the classroom, smoking out in the woods,
When the principal finally caught us, he busted us good.

The bus driver claimed he had to pull off the road,
Don't know to this day how those firecrackers explode.

Started fires at recess, occasionally fights,
Principal never cared how started, or who was right.

You know teachers have problems with us unruly lads,
The paddlings hurt at the time, but for them I'm now glad.

Since: Oct 10

United States

#12 Nov 15, 2010
BeuIah wrote:
I grew up during a time when paddling was allowed in schools. Yes, I did get a few whacks on the rear and so did my classmates. My parents never considered it abuse, just discipline. I knew that I had to face the music when I got home. It was a rule if you got in trouble at school, you were in trouble at home. I survived it all. I think by limiting the teachers on punishments, we are taking away their authority in the classrooms. I think that students know that the teachers hands are tied, because most parents are very adament that noone else is going to spank their child. I do not think of teachers as strangers. I have entrusted my child in their care for the school day. I realize times have changed, not all for the good, but back when old-fashioned paddling was allowed, my mother never had to worry if I was safe at school.
I completely agree with you, Beulah!! I grew up in the Morristown School System in the seventies and eighties. That was a time when parents ACTUALLY parented at home and paddlings at school was an accepted method of punishment for a student who misbehaved. I was just like you; if I got into the sort of trouble at school that warranted a paddling, then I got another spanking when I got home. I had the good sense to abide by the rules and only had one paddling the whole time I attended school. I behaved well because my parents taught me to respect adults, have compassion for my peers, and to be a good citizen. Children are not being taught right from wrong in the majority of households these days, and we should be thankful for school faculty who care enough about our children to point out their bad behavior and let them know that it is not acceptable and that there are consequences for such. When each of my children were taken to the bus stop on their first day of school, my husband escorted them there...introduced the child to busdriver and vice versa...advised the driver ( in front of our child) that if our child failed to behave themselves while on the bus, the driver was to "bust his/her ass" and "then he/she will get another one when he/she gets home" LOL...my kids turned out great. They had a few spankings when it was necessary, and they are better people for it. btw...Thanks Momma and Daddy, I turned out just fine myself!!!

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#13 Nov 16, 2010
Curious wrote:
They should be spanked. I guess you want your children to be spoiled little whiny brats,huh green jack o lantern?'My child doesn't need to be spanked' oh wah wah. a child needs discipline. If it takes the teacher to do what you should be doing,so be it. Don't raise your children to be wussies.
I never said I didn't spank my kids. I use a combination of corporal punishment, time outs and verbal reprimand and I couldn't ask for better kids. of course teaching by example works the best. I'm simply saying that I would never want a stranger hitting my child. Would you mind if I hit your child next time he or she act out? And Curious you didn't even read my post, you just went off on one of your tangents, all the post I've seen you make on topix seem to be filled with anger. I think you're in need of a good wippin', to help you control your temper.
2centz

Antioch, TN

#14 Nov 16, 2010
How would you like to be in an classroom with 20-some kids the way they back talk and think they can do whatever they want? Not all kids act this way, but there's enough of them that do and these kids disrupt the entire class.

I remember when all the teacher had to do was wave the paddle around. The whole room quietened down...wonder what a teacher does now to make that happen?

Teachers are afraid to spank kids because who has all the power? Certainly not them.

There's a difference between discipline and abuse. If a kid gets a little discipline...guess he or she needed it. I think the big difference is when mommy and daddy hollar,'you can't spank 'my' kid.' The kid knows this and uses it whenever possible and eventually, he'll probably use it on mommy and daddy.
cc answers

Morristown, TN

#15 Nov 16, 2010
2centz wrote:
How would you like to be in an classroom with 20-some kids the way they back talk and think they can do whatever they want? Not all kids act this way, but there's enough of them that do and these kids disrupt the entire class.
I remember when all the teacher had to do was wave the paddle around. The whole room quietened down...wonder what a teacher does now to make that happen?
Teachers are afraid to spank kids because who has all the power? Certainly not them.
There's a difference between discipline and abuse. If a kid gets a little discipline...guess he or she needed it. I think the big difference is when mommy and daddy hollar,'you can't spank 'my' kid.' The kid knows this and uses it whenever possible and eventually, he'll probably use it on mommy and daddy.
Kind of like when I was a kid there was a boy in the neighborhood who liked to bully other kids. His dad would tell him "you had better not take any crap from anybody" This gave his son a license to bully others, limited of course to those he knew he could whip. He seem to never "get any crap" from the bigger boys who could whip his butt....wonder why!
one of the last

Fayetteville, NC

#17 Nov 16, 2010
i am 21 years old and i went to west elementry and i got 2 paddlings one in 2nd and one in 3rd i think i was one of the last kids to get paddled in hamblen county lol my mom is the one that gave them the paddle. but it didnt kill me i deserved every spanking i got including the paddlings

Since: Nov 10

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#18 Nov 16, 2010
I used to get spanked in public school 25 some odd yrs ago from my PE teacher,we now meet on a regular basis for some good old fashioned bare bottom over the knee spankings and more............priceless
Textus Receptus Man

Morristown, TN

#19 Nov 16, 2010
The Green Jack-O-Lantern wrote:
Does it bother anyone that Tennessee still allows corporal punishment in public school? You'd be surprised on how many times children receive spankings in Hamblen, Hawkins, Jefferson, Knox and other surrounding communities. What does everyone think about corporal punishment in schools? As for me, I think it shows how ignorant we are as a state. I would never give my permission to have a stranger punish my child in this manner. Your thoughts?
"Tennessee does have the right to use corporal punishment under the Tennessee State Law TCA-49-6-4104, which gives local school districts the authority to make rules governing the administration of corporal punishment to students" http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/4582...
Greedy lawyers are why schools have stopped spanking. Teachers are afraid of a civil suit by parents that don't not care if their child behaves to start with. Pulling cards is a big joke to kids and they know they can't be spanked today. We need to get rid of corrupt lawyers and break out the paddles again.
Roger

Morristown, TN

#20 Nov 16, 2010
Touch anyone of my kids and everyone involved will die a slow and VERY painful death. Take it as a threat, call the f*kin cops I don't give a damn. Touch one of em and we will meet on my terms.
RTA

Kingsport, TN

#21 Nov 16, 2010
Roger wrote:
Touch anyone of my kids and everyone involved will die a slow and VERY painful death. Take it as a threat, call the f*kin cops I don't give a damn. Touch one of em and we will meet on my terms.
What happens if the f*kin cops does have to touch one of them one day?

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