Since: Dec 10

Talbott

#1 Jan 28, 2011
Because things are pretty dull on the Topix forum right now, I thought that I would share the results of a survey my friends and I conducted some years ago (2004). One day, we were sitting around growing nostalgic about pubic hair and wondering if anyone had any anymore. We decided to write a letter to Dan Savage, who authors the syndicated sex column "Savage Love," to ask his readers what they were doing with their pubes.

The response to our survey was overwhelming. We received 2,115 responses: 1,286 from women, 829 from men. E-mails came from all over the world. Indeed, people seemed pathetically grateful to have a forum in which to discuss the shaved pube phenomenon and its implications; nearly every e-mail closed with some variation of:“THANK GOD this vitally important topic is finally being addressed!” One man told us we were “doing the Lord’s work.”

The results of our survey were surprising. Even taking into account the fact that “Savage Love” readers may not represent the norm, it was unsettling to discover that almost one in five heterosexual men was completely hairless, while an additional 16% was shaving their balls, dick, or both. We were very surprised to learn that 30% of hetero women were blithely ignoring the shaving trend and remaining completely natural, not even shaving the bikini line. Perhaps the greatest revelation was that 42% of hetero men said that they like women just as they are, au naturel. We never expected that one. Another unexpected thing: as ignorant heteros, we had assumed that lesbians leave their pubes in their natural state – it turns out this is not the case: 26% reported being completely hairless, and 77% said that they engage in some form of pube manipulation.

Some of the quotes from the survey respondents' letters are hilarious, and I will share them shortly.

Since: Dec 10

Talbott

#2 Jan 28, 2011
Here is a sampling of responses:

-“Women who are completely shaved make me feel kind of weirded out…when the hair grows back it feels like stubble on a guy’s face. I don’t want a woman’s p---y to remind me of a guy’s face…Don’t even get me started on how gross that Hitler strip of hair, that is so ubiquitous in porn, looks. Not many thoughts will make me lose my wood faster than Der Fuerher. Long live the bush.”– male, hetero, trim

“Society has finally discovered being hairy is pretty disgusting…hair in those regions smells, carries bacteria, and really looks disgusting.”– male, hetero, 38, minge topiary

-“How could a woman’s hair be deemed unwomanly? Natural is the way to go. There’s a reason why evolution left that little tuft. Because it’s f---n’ sexy.‘Muff said.”– male, hetero, student, natural

-“When I heard about (men shaving it all off), I thanked all that is holy that I’ve been married since the dawn of time. If some man came at me with shaved pubes, I’d leap out the window, or puke on him.”– female, hetero, trimmed

-“’Wild beaver’ is totally ‘70s and disgusting. Every guy I know likes 100% bald best…If I meet a new woman (and I’m speaking for all my guy friends here too) I have to ‘train’ the woman to shave. A couple of years ago, I met a crazy hot woman who was ‘wild’ and after having sex with her a few times, I was not able to be into her anymore – it was too nasty…with all of my single guy friends – when they meet a new woman – the first thing asked is,‘Is she bald?’”– hetero male from Denver

-“I have been trimming for about 4 years, don’t ask me why, I guess when the whole metrosexual thing came out, many men my age around the bar would rant how ‘of course they trim.’ This made me run to the nearest store and buy a nice ‘crotch trimmer’…peer pressure at 22.”– male, 26, hetero, trimmed

-“(Shaved) looks better. Female beauty, for most hetero men, is about curves, lines, smooth skin, and sensual mysteries laid bare. Female beauty is not therefore about a thick, unkempt thatch of pubic hair that conceals a rather vital, and alluring, part of the female anatomy…Even during sex the view is more exciting, as one can actually see oneself entering and pleasuring one’s partner, instead of just seeing a penis disappearing into a nebulous cloud of hair…It feels better. For men and women…More nerve endings are brought into play, more erogenous zones are explored, more pleasure made possible. This is true for oral as well as vaginal sex.”– male, hetero
Landing Strip

Shelbyville, TN

#3 Jan 28, 2011
Enjoy a fat little trim landing strip myself. Not too fat and not too skinny. Just right.. Something to guide you in when the lights are out!

Since: Dec 10

Talbott

#4 Jan 28, 2011
Here are some more. I hope that no one is offended by this subject. I find it totally fascinating, from an anthropological perspective if nothing else.

-“I can think of several reasons (why men would want to shave). The first one is that it makes it look bigger, the second is that the oral sex is better and partners usually do a better job when it is shaved/waxed, and the third is it looks better.”– male, hetero, shaved

-“I am gloriously unshaven, though an evil EX-boyfriend begged me to shave so I did a partial removal one time and will never do it again…The asshole who begged me to shave said it was ‘cleaner.’ Perhaps. It’s also itchier. So if you want your girlfriend to constantly paw at her crotch in public with an agonized look on her face…”– female, hetero, natural

-“I don’t like body hair at all, on me or on anyone else; it’s just a personal preference. I don’t like the way it feels. It seems to me that it’s sort of obsolete now that we aren’t living in the wild, naked.”– female, hetero, 22, shaved

-“(The pubes) have been left unaltered, in an utterly rad hipster fro.”– male, natural

-“Whenever I see a shaven guy in a gym shower, I have to leave for fear of laughing in his face. One dude laughing at another dude’s package in a public shower is the kind of thing that’ll get a dude’s ass kicked.”-- male, trimmed

-“Five minutes I spend shaving is five minutes I could have spent sleeping.”– male, natural

“I now sport designs: hearts, racing stripes, numbers or letters, etc. Body hair is gross, on all people, IMO, a piece of our genetics that is evolutionarily on its way out…I guess I have been a metrosexual since fourth grade…”– male, 22, minge topiary
Yall be lyyyying

United States

#5 Jan 28, 2011
Aint no way none of u shaves lol, u crackas can't see your goodies cause of da fat roll.
Hair Down There

Shelbyville, TN

#6 Jan 28, 2011
Most men find that a shaved p---y reminds them of a little girl. Just what I've read, don't know how someone came up with this idea, but if it is so then men who like it that way would be considered pedophiles (to a degree) to most people!
same here

Morristown, TN

#7 Jan 28, 2011
Hair Down There wrote:
Most men find that a shaved p---y reminds them of a little girl. Just what I've read, don't know how someone came up with this idea, but if it is so then men who like it that way would be considered pedophiles (to a degree) to most people!
I think it is the men who have daughters and maybe younger sisters, that find shaved p*ssy disturbing. Then the men who had no sisters growing up and all they ever saw was a aught ohh! shot of mom. They are the ones who find hairy gross. This is an interesting thread as I have wondered the reason many times. By the way' I like it all natural. Its a garden let it grow.
Hair Down There

Shelbyville, TN

#8 Jan 28, 2011
same here wrote:
<quoted text>
I think it is the men who have daughters and maybe younger sisters, that find shaved p*ssy disturbing. Then the men who had no sisters growing up and all they ever saw was a aught ohh! shot of mom. They are the ones who find hairy gross. This is an interesting thread as I have wondered the reason many times. By the way' I like it all natural. Its a garden let it grow.
A wise man once said, "I can't get enuff of a nice hairy muff!"
love it

Powell, TN

#9 Jan 29, 2011
A friend once told me, "If there's not grass on the field, I don't want to play". He was male, of course. I am female.

“Hit me with Music.”

Since: Jan 10

some godforsaken town

#10 Jan 29, 2011
I always heard, no grass in the field, play in the mud.

This is actually an interesting topic. Thanks. First one I think Ive read all day...I enjoy reading the comments, however the one about only perverts liking a shaved area, I am questioning a bit.

Since: Dec 10

Talbott

#12 Jan 29, 2011
Thanks for the comments. I enjoyed reading them. Here are some more responses from the pubes survey:

-“I originally did it to please my boyfriend who didn’t like going down on me, in the hopes that he then would be more willing to do the deed (turns out pubes had nothing to do with it, he was just selfish). I kept it up, though, because it felt sexy and was more of a turn on when I was touched (nothing between me and the hand).”– female, shaved

-“No potential pubes in the teeth, guys appear to have larger dicks, girls appear more youthful, things like that. Additionally (and to a lesser degree), pube-shaving might be seen as slightly exotic. Of course, as POPULAR as it is, no one’s thinking it’s RARE, but when you see someone with shorn pubes, it tells you,‘Hey! This person paid some particular attention to sprucing up their genitals. This must mean that they want their genitals to be admired!” which shows some sort of passive sexual aggression, like dressing in a sexy manner, etc.”– male, 26, heterosexual, shaved

-“I’ve noticed that trimming down the hedge makes my hips and thighs look wider, and why would I want that? This trend is f____g evil and weird.”– female, hetero, natural

-“I have tons of pubes. Tons.”– male, natural

“Kids growing up today learn about sex from watching porno, and the actors are all shaved in that.(As a corollary, this also explains all of the ‘a---eating’ that’s come into currency out of the blue.) I think there were some guys in high school (mid 80s) who shaved their balls – but they were just the gays. Anyone else who’d shown up to gym class with below-the-belt vanilla-ice capades would have promptly gotten his a-- kicked. Now, at the Y, in the men’s locker room, all the twenty-nothings wear swimming trunks in the shower, and I’m convinced it’s to hide their bareness from all the 40+ construction workers who wouldn’t hesitate to ask them what the f--- they’re thinking.(It could also be that they watch so much porno that they feel inadequate.)”– male, hetero, natural

-“I’m not sticking my head in a sweaty, pissy, itchy ball of hair to give a guy head, no thanks.”– female, hetero, shaved

-“I absolutely will not go down on a forested vagina.”-- male, hetero, early 20s, natural

“I think the overall trend to shave that special place goes along with something Dan wrote a few months ago. Our society is going gay…As a completely straight man, it kills me to say this, but I’m afraid most girls like guys that aren’t so masculine anymore but they like queerish looking guys.”– male, hetero, 21, shaved

“First, they came for the women, but I was not a woman so I said nothing. Then they came for the gay men, but I was not a gay man so I said nothing. Then they came for the amateur porn stars, but I was not an amateur porn star so I said nothing. By the time they came for me, there was no one left to speak up.”– male, hetero, natural

-“The idea of a thick, full growth of pubic hair is very enticing…makes me want to dive in (so to speak *cough*) and stay a while…My current flame is shorn but for the ‘landing strip,’ which won’t keep me out of bed with her, but if she let it grow out she’d be absolutely irresistible”– male, 21, hetero, natural

Since: Dec 10

Talbott

#13 Jan 29, 2011
Thanks for the comments. I enjoyed reading them. Here are some more responses from the pubes survey:

-“I originally did it to please my boyfriend who didn’t like going down on me, in the hopes that he then would be more willing to do the deed (turns out pubes had nothing to do with it, he was just selfish). I kept it up, though, because it felt sexy and was more of a turn on when I was touched (nothing between me and the hand).”– female, shaved

-“No potential pubes in the teeth, guys appear to have larger dicks, girls appear more youthful, things like that. Additionally (and to a lesser degree), pube-shaving might be seen as slightly exotic. Of course, as POPULAR as it is, no one’s thinking it’s RARE, but when you see someone with shorn pubes, it tells you,‘Hey! This person paid some particular attention to sprucing up their genitals. This must mean that they want their genitals to be admired!” which shows some sort of passive sexual aggression, like dressing in a sexy manner, etc.”– male, 26, heterosexual, shaved

-“I’ve noticed that trimming down the hedge makes my hips and thighs look wider, and why would I want that? This trend is f____g evil and weird.”– female, hetero, natural

-“I have tons of pubes. Tons.”– male, natural

-“Kids growing up today learn about sex from watching porno, and the actors are all shaved in that.(As a corollary, this also explains all of the ‘a---eating’ that’s come into currency out of the blue.) I think there were some guys in high school (mid 80s) who shaved their balls – but they were just the gays. Anyone else who’d shown up to gym class with below-the-belt vanilla-ice capades would have promptly gotten his a-- kicked. Now, at the Y, in the men’s locker room, all the twenty-nothings wear swimming trunks in the shower, and I’m convinced it’s to hide their bareness from all the 40+ construction workers who wouldn’t hesitate to ask them what the f--- they’re thinking.(It could also be that they watch so much porno that they feel inadequate.)”– male, hetero, natural

“I’m not sticking my head in a sweaty, pissy, itchy ball of hair to give a guy head, no thanks.”– female, hetero, shaved

-“I think the overall trend to shave that special place goes along with something Dan wrote a few months ago. Our society is going gay…As a completely straight man, it kills me to say this, but I’m afraid most girls like guys that aren’t so masculine anymore but they like queerish looking guys.”– male, hetero, 21, shaved

-“I absolutely will not go down on a forested vagina.”-- male, hetero, early 20s, natural

-“In the past year, I have been involved with twenty girls (or something like that). The cooler the girl was, personality-wise, the less likely she was to shave, dammit…A Kiwi girl that ran a really cool art gallery had a damn carpet.”– male, 27, hetero, trimmed

-“The idea of a thick, full growth of pubic hair is very enticing…makes me want to dive in (so to speak *cough*) and stay a while…My current flame is shorn but for the ‘landing strip,’ which won’t keep me out of bed with her, but if she let it grow out she’d be absolutely irresistible”– male, 21, hetero, natural

-“I’m not really sure about the older generation, but I don’t know anyone that’s not completely shaven and I’m only 18! This goes for guys and girls, can you think of anything more unattractive than hairy balls?”– female, 18, shaved

-“My boyfriend trims his pubic hair as well as the hair under his arms. I find it very considerate as I couldn’t tell you when the last time when either of us had to dig a hair out of our mouths in the middle of screwing around.”– female, trimmed

Since: Dec 10

Talbott

#14 Jan 29, 2011
-“I have what you would call the ‘landing strip’ or the ‘mini mo’ hahah…I don’t know how I evolved to this, I hate shaving my ‘nether regions’ but I do it for my boyfriend (and every boyfriend before him)…sigh…when it grows in it’s HORRIBLY itchy. Sometimes breaks out into a rash, and ingrown hairs run rampant. I know waxing would probably help this, but the idea of sticking my poon into someone’s face without them at LEAST buying me a beer first doesn’t appeal to me (at this time)…”– female, minge topiary

-“I think men with a treasure trail are hot, hot, hot. I love that line of fuzz from belly button to waistband and therefore promote hairiness for all.”– female, natural

-“Shaved nuts, shaft. The rest clipped low and tight! I haven’t seen an ‘afro’ in years.”– male, 40, homosexual, minge topiary

-“The clean look is hot for both men and women. It is not some adolescent perversion to a bald pubic region, rather an attention to personal hygiene. The added benefit is the skin on skin contact during sex and the heighten(ed) sensation it creates. Personally, I am tightly trimmed on top with smooth shaven balls. Very nice.”– male, 34, minge topiary

-“I think these people (with shaved pubes) look monumentally stupid. They look like prepubescent children, which appears more ridiculous the older the person is. Personally, I think dicks look much sexier emerging from a nice thick nest.”– female, natural

-“(The reason for the shaving trend is that) pubic hair is God awful gross. And, save for a few 70s porn stars who still believe ELO to be the music messiah, most North Americans have adopted a similar view. Which, as a shorn man, makes me very happy. Having to create credible excuses to get the hell out of ‘a hairy situation’ grows more difficult with each fiction spun…I actively engage in the art of ‘manscaping.’ I like being smooth, with only a ‘welcome mat’ out front..”– male, minge topiary

-“I think women and men look best with a little ‘plumage,’ but not a huge uncontrolled bush. My boyfriend does the same sort of thing I do, just leaving a little trimmed plumage above his penis. It makes it much more pleasant to go down on him.”– female, hetero

-“I’ve been with girls who trim, make weird rectangles, HEARTS (ugg!!!), and who don’t shave at all. I prefer those who don’t shave. The more natural, the better.”– male, hetero, natural

-“I couldn’t imagine getting sexually involved with a man who is hairy. It is such a turnoff. It just seems dirty to me.”– female, hetero, shaved

-“Eating a shaved pussy is a lot like French kissing a man with five o’clock shadow and no tongue.”– male, hetero

-“ Shaved or trimmed pubes? Yech. Forget it. I’m a gay man of advanced years and have shared the bodies of many men. Only one of them, a hired rentboy, had styled his pussy. He might as well have forgotten it. It was shaped like a Hitler mustache, only not as thick or wide. And, poor lad, had shaved his armpits and the rest of his body and (barf) doused himself with Brut. Then he could not get his tiny uncut cock to rise to the occasion. Out of pity, I had sort-of sex with him until I got off, paid him and kissed him goodbye. Pubic coiffure is an abomination only recently, it seems, adopted by straight men.(They usually, by a year or so, follow trends set, alas, by gay men.)”– male, homosexual, natural

-“I think a woman’s bush should be just that, a bush. A lush, verdant jungle to be explored. But these days, a patch of manicured lawn is all you are likely to find, if anything.”-- male, hetero, natural

-“First, they came for the women, but I was not a woman so I said nothing. Then they came for the gay men, but I was not a gay man so I said nothing. Then they came for the amateur porn stars, but I was not an amateur porn star so I said nothing. By the time they came for me, there was no one left to speak up.”– male, hetero, natural

“God's Chosen Jester”

Since: Nov 10

Look Away, I'm Hideous

#15 Jan 29, 2011
Very good topic for discussion. I got drunk one night and decided that I've shave a girl's pu**y. I'm sort of a perfectionist, so I knew that it would take some time, but I never realized that it would occupy the entire night. And in between gentle passes with my razor, I'd have to stop and f**k for a while. I made sure that I didn't get off because I knew that I'd never finish the job if I did -- that I'd completely lose all interest in both the young woman and her half-missing patch. I finally finished with it and was exhausted. I saw her a couple of days later tending bar and she told me she "itched." I like a neatly pruned little patch of pubic hair that extends down to the azz hole. I have been shaving my balls since the 80's and have never looked back. The trick is to strech you sack tight before you pass with the razor. Finally, I do not like a shaved pu**y. I ain't into little girls, and I can't help but think that there's some of that perverted kind of thing going on when a man insists on a slick setting.

Since: Dec 10

Talbott

#16 Jan 29, 2011
Very interesting!

I accidentally typed in some of the same quotes. I am still trying to figure this Topix thing out...
wow

Walland, TN

#17 Jan 29, 2011
gormenghast wrote:
Very interesting!
I accidentally typed in some of the same quotes. I am still trying to figure this Topix thing out...
What is interesting is that you aparrently think it's not obvious that all of the responses are from you. You are not nearly as bright as you think you are,bub.
Pretty sad,lol.

Since: Dec 10

Talbott

#18 Jan 30, 2011
wow wrote:
<quoted text>
What is interesting is that you aparrently think it's not obvious that all of the responses are from you. You are not nearly as bright as you think you are,bub.
Pretty sad,lol.
Sorry, "wow," I'm not that creative.

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#19 Jan 30, 2011
I love to eat, and I want a clean plate.

I don't understand people that think I must be sick, it must remind me of a small child. I am full aware I am with a grown woman. I have no desire to be with a child, nor does being with a completely shaved woman remind me of a small child in any way. I would think if being with a completely shaved woman reminds you of a child, you must want to think about the child anyway.

“God's Chosen Jester”

Since: Nov 10

Look Away, I'm Hideous

#20 Jan 30, 2011
the_voice_of_truth wrote:
I love to eat, and I want a clean plate.
I don't understand people that think I must be sick, it must remind me of a small child. I am full aware I am with a grown woman. I have no desire to be with a child, nor does being with a completely shaved woman remind me of a small child in any way. I would think if being with a completely shaved woman reminds you of a child, you must want to think about the child anyway.
Sorry, dude. I guess I owe you an apology, and you've got it now. Besides, who needs to listen to me about hair anyway; I think armpit hair is erotic on the right woman. Shave that mo**her f**ker, dude! Sorry.

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#21 Jan 30, 2011
CrownVick wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry, dude. I guess I owe you an apology, and you've got it now. Besides, who needs to listen to me about hair anyway; I think armpit hair is erotic on the right woman. Shave that mo**her f**ker, dude! Sorry.
OH CV, your fine. Apology accepted. I just wanted to state my side of this.

It was my wife's idea to start shaving her neither regions. In her own words she is not 'coordinated enough' to do a landing strip, so she went completely slick. The first time I performed oral on her after she completely shaved, she was like 'wow, I can feel you, like really feel you' and she has stayed slick since. Plus she feels much cleaner she says.

One more thing, while I am replying to this thread again, I must say I believe the data is out of date. I work with a single 24 year old guy who said 'he can't remember the last time' he seen any neither region hair on a girl, except for maybe a landing strip. So the data is 2004, this is 2011. Again, I bet the data is out of date, and the one's who manipulate their pubic hair is most likely much higher now.

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