This is why people don't trust cops

This is why people don't trust cops

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Since: Jan 10

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#1 Feb 5, 2012
An officer is supposed to be sworn in to protect and uphold, but when things like this happen, how is the public supposed to be able to trust them?
I know the mother of this young man and the family is very distraught over this, as anyone would be. Yes, the boy was speeding from the trooper, but this clearly shows how the trooper terminated the chase AFTER the kid crashed into a tree. He also called his wife to locate an attorney. Was the kid alive in the car? Who's to know? His body was burned so badly there was nothing left for the funeral service. The family was told he died on impact, but who could know that?
They didn't even know the trooper had passed the scene until they saw the dash cam.
Here's a link..

http://www.volunteertv.com/news/headlines/Tro...
Tan

Morristown, TN

#2 Feb 5, 2012
I heard that the medical examiner confirmed that the boy died on impact. I read that on a different news channel.
no lady

United States

#3 Feb 5, 2012
It sounds bad, but who started the whole episode in the 1st place and put others in danger? The cop should have been fired well before this, but what happened wasn't his fault.

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#4 Feb 5, 2012
no lady wrote:
It sounds bad, but who started the whole episode in the 1st place and put others in danger? The cop should have been fired well before this, but what happened wasn't his fault.
I'm not saying what the boy did was right and neither is his family, but if you watch the video you'll see how the officer terminated the chase after he passed the accident. I feel bad for the family. It's always the ones left behind who hurt when someone dies, no matter what the cause of death is.
Seems like this cop was pretty heartless to me.
Lady MacBeth

Morristown, TN

#5 Feb 5, 2012
I saw the video too and it seem to me like the trooper over shot the crash. Maybe he was so stunned that the car crashed that he couldn't stop quick enough and had to turn back. No one was there extra the video cam and it can't tell what the trooper was thinking. Someone can die instantly when hitting a tree if they don't have their seatbelt on. It happened to my son and he wasn't even being chased. I'm just saying we all don't have all the real facts in this case.
Sudden Impact

Nashville, TN

#6 Feb 6, 2012
The same idiots condoning the officers poor judgement and careless behavior are the same ones that would be crying, cursing, threatening and suing the police department if they found themselves in the same situation. Please review the prior incidents this officer has been in. Do not let the glare from the badge blind you. Law enforcement officials are to serve and protect. They enforce the law, but they are not above it.
Simple Joe

Morristown, TN

#7 Feb 6, 2012
This kid started a police chase putting many people in danger. The way I see it there is just one less lunatic on the road to worry about now. I dont feel sorry for him. He rolled the dice and lost. We have become such a coddling society. Word to the wise. Police chases never end well. You either die or get caught. But, I do feel sorry for his family, however they have no one to blame but the criminal he which was their son.
Just saying

Morristown, TN

#8 Feb 6, 2012
I have seen the news coverage and all the media hype and first and foremost, the news and the media lie and they never tell the whole story. They tell enough to stir the pot. If this young man was such a great kid, why was a state trooper chasing him?

The glare from the badge is not blinding me, do I agree with the trooper's comments? No but some people do not express their feelings well or know how to say things. I am happy that no one else was injured, I hate it for the officer and the boy's family.
lol

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#9 Feb 6, 2012
Simple Joe wrote:
This kid started a police chase putting many people in danger. The way I see it there is just one less lunatic on the road to worry about now. I dont feel sorry for him. He rolled the dice and lost. We have become such a coddling society. Word to the wise. Police chases never end well. You either die or get caught. But, I do feel sorry for his family, however they have no one to blame but the criminal he which was their son.
Thank goodness theres one smart person in the bunch! If you know that there is a cop car behind you and you put the pedal to the floor and endanger everybody elses safety then Im not gonna feel sorry when your dumbass wraps the car around a tree! The trooper should be fired but why are they suing the department also? sounds like they just hit their big payout due to their dumbass son! btw Im not as heartless as this probably sounds but damn people stop blaming everybody else for the stupid shit you do!!!!
Good Grief

Knoxville, TN

#10 Feb 6, 2012
Yep, Redneck Lottery in full effect. sure they are upset their son died but he was 'ridin' dirty' and running from the Law. No doubt the State will settle and give these people a few million dollars.
Guess all those-
'We'll turn your wreck...into a check' lawyer commercials made a big impression with them.
pig

Morristown, TN

#11 Feb 6, 2012
Simple Joe wrote:
This kid started a police chase putting many people in danger. The way I see it there is just one less lunatic on the road to worry about now. I dont feel sorry for him. He rolled the dice and lost. We have become such a coddling society. Word to the wise. Police chases never end well. You either die or get caught. But, I do feel sorry for his family, however they have no one to blame but the criminal he which was their son.
you have any kid dumb a
yah

Morristown, TN

#12 Feb 7, 2012
Lady MacBeth wrote:
I saw the video too and it seem to me like the trooper over shot the crash. Maybe he was so stunned that the car crashed that he couldn't stop quick enough and had to turn back. No one was there extra the video cam and it can't tell what the trooper was thinking. Someone can die instantly when hitting a tree if they don't have their seatbelt on. It happened to my son and he wasn't even being chased. I'm just saying we all don't have all the real facts in this case.
So the cop pulling off the road for several minutes, called his wife and a lawyer, AND was caught on audio saying he didn't really try to save the person, but he wanted to look good for the media.

1. Passing the vehicle the first time he should have stopped or immediately turned around to find out if their was a survivor. he did neither

2. After driving passed the accident he stops for several minutes and calls an attorney to protect his own ass instead of protecting someone who could have potentially been burning alive.

and 3. HE IS A COP AND SHOULD BE TRAINED TO DEAL WITH THESE THINGS!It does not matter what he was thinking, seeing how he called his wife and attorney he must have been thinking about saving his own ass rather than anyone elses.

As much poison as you spew about criminals on this site i cannot believe you would attempt to defend this scum bag.
love

Nashville, TN

#13 Feb 7, 2012
Simple Joe wrote:
This kid started a police chase putting many people in danger. The way I see it there is just one less lunatic on the road to worry about now. I dont feel sorry for him. He rolled the dice and lost. We have become such a coddling society. Word to the wise. Police chases never end well. You either die or get caught. But, I do feel sorry for his family, however they have no one to blame but the criminal he which was their son.
you dont have children do you ??????
Simple Joe

Morristown, TN

#14 Feb 7, 2012
love wrote:
<quoted text>you dont have children do you ??????
Yes I do and this is one less mad man i have to worry about them meeting head-on one day. I do agree that the cop should have stopped to help. I dont know all of the circumstances. But i do know who caused this acciident and that society has to try to find someone to hang now instead of looking to the real culprit. And the tax payers will likely fund the family's retirement now.
love

Nashville, TN

#15 Feb 7, 2012
Simple Joe wrote:
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Yes I do and this is one less mad man i have to worry about them meeting head-on one day. I do agree that the cop should have stopped to help. I dont know all of the circumstances. But i do know who caused this acciident and that society has to try to find someone to hang now instead of looking to the real culprit. And the tax payers will likely fund the family's retirement now.
the boy was a kid dont act as if you or your children will not make mistakes and yes the officer should have stoped and yes they should go after the department. wouldnt you???? think about it what was the officer thinking he wasnt and he didnt care is that the type of officers you want on the force.
yah

Morristown, TN

#16 Feb 7, 2012
Simple Joe wrote:
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Yes I do and this is one less mad man i have to worry about them meeting head-on one day. I do agree that the cop should have stopped to help. I dont know all of the circumstances. But i do know who caused this acciident and that society has to try to find someone to hang now instead of looking to the real culprit. And the tax payers will likely fund the family's retirement now.
More like this.

Sadly someone died and no matter the circumstances that is a sad thing. But luckily the people have also been given the opportunity to weed out a Horrible State Trooper and we will likely SAVE lives by having him taken off the streets. In moments of Crises every second counts and he wasted minutes without any evaluation of the accident.

You say this kid played with fire and got burned.(damn thats a little too literal)

But i say there is even more to it. Why would any cop much less a State trooper intentionally pass a suspect he is chasing to call his wife for his attorneys phone number??? Answer me that and i will let it go.

He gives law enforcement a bad name.
Lady MacBeth

Morristown, TN

#17 Feb 7, 2012
So you all are saying that it is ok for all young kids to engage in a car chase with the law and not be accountable, but instead the law who chases them are too blame and should be punished if the young kid is careless and wraps him or herself around a tree. Put the blame where it belongs.
Sudden Impact

Nashville, TN

#18 Feb 7, 2012
Lady MacBeth wrote:
So you all are saying that it is ok for all young kids to engage in a car chase with the law and not be accountable, but instead the law who chases them are too blame and should be punished if the young kid is careless and wraps him or herself around a tree. Put the blame where it belongs.
You are so f*cking dumb, that it is painful to read your stupid remarks. The Original Posters' remarks pertained to the conduct of the police officer. I will not blame the kid for the poor decisions that the officer made. Please stay focused on the topic, it is not about the kid or his actions. It is about the officer and his ability to make decisions or the lack thereof. It appears the officer has a history of blunders or did you even take the time to read the list. I doubt it, due to the fact you have a reading comprehension disorder and distort facts all the time. If anyone needs to be wrapped around a tree, it would definitely be you.
Lady MacBeth

Morristown, TN

#19 Feb 7, 2012
Sudden Impact wrote:
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You are so f*cking dumb, that it is painful to read your stupid remarks. The Original Posters' remarks pertained to the conduct of the police officer. I will not blame the kid for the poor decisions that the officer made. Please stay focused on the topic, it is not about the kid or his actions. It is about the officer and his ability to make decisions or the lack thereof. It appears the officer has a history of blunders or did you even take the time to read the list. I doubt it, due to the fact you have a reading comprehension disorder and distort facts all the time. If anyone needs to be wrapped around a tree, it would definitely be you.
It's a two way street. Conduct of the police officer versus the poor decisions the kid made in running from the law. Why did the kid feel he had to run and cause a car chase? Maybe there was a reason the kid didn't want the police officer to pull him over because he was breaking the law in other ways. The plain truth is that this whole ordeal would have been prevented if the kid had not run from the law. Just because he was a kid doesn't mean that he was not guilty. I'm sure it will all come out at some point.
wait what

Knoxville, TN

#20 Feb 7, 2012
WHO was responsible for the cop starting the pursuit? The kid.
WHO was entirely responsible for the kid crashing? The kid.
Why did the kid die? He crashed.

Sure, everyone hates to hear about a young man dying...but the cop was absolutely in no way responsible.

The family is not due one red cent from the State on this. And it's not that I don't feel sorry for them either. It just sickens me though that anyone would tell them....or that the idea pooped up in their head....that, hey we got a good chance to get a huge payday out of this, just because of some factors that happened AFTER the death... that had NO real connection to how and why the death occurred.

The cop just be fired for being an ass hole for how he acted after the accident because it casts a bad image on the THP...and that should be the end of it.

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