Death of the MBPOA
what an idiot ur

East Moriches, NY

#81 Apr 29, 2013
Say What wrote:
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Audit what a joke - they do it themselves and approve themselves - why not post the audit on the club website so we can all see. And since you lie and call yourself a charity they must at least look like that are meeting the rules. The fox watching the hen house...
They arent our government. Why doesnt the GOVERNMENT post where they spend their money? If you read the meeting minutes it always says... XXXXX amount to over time. XXXXXX to "snow removal" ETC. Where does the money actually go and to whom? We have to foil and wait to find out. What is the Village hiding? I dont care about the MBPOA, they dont waste my money, the village does that.
Brady

Stamford, CT

#82 Apr 29, 2013
what an idiot ur wrote:
<quoted text>They arent our government. Why doesnt the GOVERNMENT post where they spend their money? If you read the meeting minutes it always says... XXXXX amount to over time. XXXXXX to "snow removal" ETC. Where does the money actually go and to whom? We have to foil and wait to find out. What is the Village hiding? I dont care about the MBPOA, they dont waste my money, the village does that.
Well, what did you find out with your last FOIL? Bet it was earth shattering!
Okay

Shirley, NY

#83 Apr 29, 2013
Say What wrote:
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WOW I gues it is true people hear what they want to hear - a MBPOA mouthpiece stood up complained AGAIN about Riviera and again it was explained that the material is approved by the DEC and the village will agin add more base then finish it with a finer top layer - she know this but she stands up to throw stones...it is getting old. The village is also looking for additional funding to make long term road construction to avoid future wash-outs.
In fact I wish the mayor would simply ignore her -let her talk and sit down...she is a total waste of skin and time. As for someone standing up and being yelled at the meeting it never happened - much like this person ever telling the truth - I wish she would go back to her club, tell her lies and pack up you bags because the game is over and your cronies money-skimming and illegal operations will soon see the light of day.
How about you fix your fence.
what an idiot ur

East Moriches, NY

#84 Apr 29, 2013
Brady wrote:
<quoted text>Well, what did you find out with your last FOIL? Bet it was earth shattering!
and once again, this wasnt posted to you. I was to the OTHER idiot that demanded the MBPOA post their financial records on their web site. But yet, they are not our government. Why doesnt OUR GOVERNMENT do what the poster was asking of a CIVIC GROUP!?
You know what, you people are too stupid to respond to.

MBPOA = CIVIC GROUP
MBV = GOVERNMENT

is that dumbed down enough for you all?
I dont care what the MBPOA does. I do care about all the lies coming out of Village Hall. Got your salary yet? Big pay days are coming huh?

And yes, NO PERMITS to re-due electric and sheet rock at village hall. I guess they dont care about safety so why should I.
NOTICE:
No need to get permits to replace your electric or sheetrock in your home because Village Hall, the same government demanding you get one, didnt get them. I cant wait to see Garys permits for HIS marina before he closed off the public road with VILLAGE EQUIPMENT when thats the reason GARY wont let the MBPOA open. Get your lies in order, we want to see them.
reality vs misinformation

Bronx, NY

#85 Apr 29, 2013
lame wrote:
<quoted text>Who cares? THEY ARE NOT OUR GOVERNMENT!
If their finances concern you so much, become a BOD and demand to see them. But that would mean actually going to the meetings and volunteering, so that will never happen.
The fact that you and all the other dipsh!ts keep bringing up the MBPOA validate the claim that this is what the village was all about. Taking what is the MBPOA and gaining control of it for yourselves. YES "Brady", im including you as well.
Frank didnt understand that there are rules to the club and he violated them. This is why he launch a lawsuit, with friends of his that DIDNT know he was using them in that suit, against the POA. Before you call this a lie, there is proof of this. Nice that a president of a civic lies like that and uses his "friends".
And there ARE people who voted for the village that are members of the POA. Hell, there are ever TRUSTEES, past and present, that are POA members. So the claim that people were kicked out because they support the village is laughable.
In conclusion, the MBPOA IS NOT A GOVERNMENT SO WHO GIVES A CRAP!?
Take a page from Franks playbook and file a lawsuit if you want to see their finances. Just be prepared to get laughed out of court.
And no matter what the POA does, they will never be a subject of an investigation by the DA. Thats something that the village and their merry band of pirates cant say.
The reason the MBPOA comes up so often in these streams is because they are still holding the waterfront hostage and keeping it for MEMBERS ONLY....everyone knows the intent was for the waterfront, the marinas and even the clubhouse to be maintained for the enjoyment of the entire community not as a private club.

It is long overdue for the property to be turned over to an actual government, which we now have...and allow everyone access to the waterfront.
Brady

Stamford, CT

#86 Apr 29, 2013
what an idiot ur wrote:
<quoted text>and once again, this wasnt posted to you. I was to the OTHER idiot that demanded the MBPOA post their financial records on their web site. But yet, they are not our government. Why doesnt OUR GOVERNMENT do what the poster was asking of a CIVIC GROUP!?
You know what, you people are too stupid to respond to.
MBPOA = CIVIC GROUP
MBV = GOVERNMENT
is that dumbed down enough for you all?
I dont care what the MBPOA does. I do care about all the lies coming out of Village Hall. Got your salary yet? Big pay days are coming huh?
And yes, NO PERMITS to re-due electric and sheet rock at village hall. I guess they dont care about safety so why should I.
NOTICE:
No need to get permits to replace your electric or sheetrock in your home because Village Hall, the same government demanding you get one, didnt get them. I cant wait to see Garys permits for HIS marina before he closed off the public road with VILLAGE EQUIPMENT when thats the reason GARY wont let the MBPOA open. Get your lies in order, we want to see them.
Other idiot, that could be taken as an insult. Did you think to FOIL the Town for the Electrical Underwriters Certificate and the building permit?
RU THAT STOOOPID

East Moriches, NY

#87 Apr 29, 2013
reality vs misinformation wrote:
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The reason the MBPOA comes up so often in these streams is because they are still holding the waterfront hostage and keeping it for MEMBERS ONLY....everyone knows the intent was for the waterfront, the marinas and even the clubhouse to be maintained for the enjoyment of the entire community not as a private club.
It is long overdue for the property to be turned over to an actual government, which we now have...and allow everyone access to the waterfront.
THE MBPOA IS NOT A GOVERNMENT!
what do you think the village will do with them???? CHARGE US MORE TO USE THEM!!!
You honestly think they will be free? Well, that will raise our taxes so it wont be free. You think they will just let all 12 thousand residents get boat slips? NO you moron! They will make you join the "village marina club" for a fee, then charge you slightly more than Garys marina to dock your boat! Honestly, how stupid are you? Rhetorical question, your pretty stupid.
Holding the waterfront hostage? Did Frank tell you that?
Thanks for telling the truth finally. That the village was nothing more than a way to STEAL the waterfront and clubhouse away from the rightful stewards. Good luck getting them before the DA swoops in or this whole fiasco of a village is dissolved.
Oh BTW, for 35 dollars you can use the waterfront. You can use the waterfront anyways, but to get a sticker for your car its 35 dollars. OHHHHHH the humanity!!! 35DOLLARS!!!
RU THAT STOOOPID

East Moriches, NY

#88 Apr 29, 2013
reality vs misinformation wrote:
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It is long overdue for the property to be turned over to an actual government, which we now have...and allow everyone access to the waterfront.
Because we all know government makes things SOOOOO much better!
Brady

Stamford, CT

#89 Apr 29, 2013
RU THAT STOOOPID wrote:
<quoted text> THE MBPOA IS NOT A GOVERNMENT!
what do you think the village will do with them???? CHARGE US MORE TO USE THEM!!!
You honestly think they will be free? Well, that will raise our taxes so it wont be free. You think they will just let all 12 thousand residents get boat slips? NO you moron! They will make you join the "village marina club" for a fee, then charge you slightly more than Garys marina to dock your boat! Honestly, how stupid are you? Rhetorical question, your pretty stupid.
Holding the waterfront hostage? Did Frank tell you that?
Thanks for telling the truth finally. That the village was nothing more than a way to STEAL the waterfront and clubhouse away from the rightful stewards. Good luck getting them before the DA swoops in or this whole fiasco of a village is dissolved.
Oh BTW, for 35 dollars you can use the waterfront. You can use the waterfront anyways, but to get a sticker for your car its 35 dollars. OHHHHHH the humanity!!! 35DOLLARS!!!
The issue would not be in court had the Guardian Loan company not included that IF a village forms, the marinas and clubhouse revert to village property. So now the village takes the matter to court, so that the issue can be adjudicated because MBPOA refused to abide by the deed, and they disagree with whether including part of Shirley invalidates the deed. I have said many times I think the village does not belong in the marina business and I have also said I believe all the money invested over 60 years needs to be considered. But I wonder if anyone even considered a sale/leaseback where the Village would own the properties and the MBPOA could operate it for mutual benefit. Btw- There would be no property taxes because the village is exempt.

Since: Apr 09

Shirley, NY

#90 Apr 29, 2013
Brady wrote:
<quoted text>The issue would not be in court had the Guardian Loan company not included that IF a village forms, the marinas and clubhouse revert to village property. So now the village takes the matter to court, so that the issue can be adjudicated because MBPOA refused to abide by the deed, and they disagree with whether including part of Shirley invalidates the deed. I have said many times I think the village does not belong in the marina business and I have also said I believe all the money invested over 60 years needs to be considered. But I wonder if anyone even considered a sale/leaseback where the Village would own the properties and the MBPOA could operate it for mutual benefit. Btw- There would be no property taxes because the village is exempt.
So if it weren't for the Guardian Loan company we wouldn't even have a village. Because from the beginning the vision team started because they couldn't get elected into the POA. I say sue the Guardian loan company.
Zany Frank is back

East Moriches, NY

#91 Apr 29, 2013
Brady wrote:
<quoted text>The issue would not be in court had the Guardian Loan company not included that IF a village forms, the marinas and clubhouse revert to village property. So now the village takes the matter to court, so that the issue can be adjudicated because MBPOA refused to abide by the deed, and they disagree with whether including part of Shirley invalidates the deed. I have said many times I think the village does not belong in the marina business and I have also said I believe all the money invested over 60 years needs to be considered. But I wonder if anyone even considered a sale/leaseback where the Village would own the properties and the MBPOA could operate it for mutual benefit. Btw- There would be no property taxes because the village is exempt.
well, that would be PLANNING ahead and the village doesnt do that. Maybe IF this was brought up before, who knows. But to put it in the words of the village Vision team..... "it's ours now gimmie gimmie gimmie!!!"
But who asked you? Right, no one. Go tell it to Gary if you think its a good idea. Im sure he would love it.
Zany Frank is back

East Moriches, NY

#92 Apr 29, 2013
reality vs misinformation wrote:
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The reason the MBPOA comes up so often in these streams is because they are still holding the waterfront hostage and keeping it for MEMBERS ONLY....everyone knows the intent was for the waterfront, the marinas and even the clubhouse to be maintained for the enjoyment of the entire community not as a private club.
It is long overdue for the property to be turned over to an actual government, which we now have...and allow everyone access to the waterfront.
THIS is why a village was formed. NOT to get rid of slum lords and sex offenders like the "HONEST AND PURE INTENTIONS" of the MBVEC stated.
Facts Facts Facts

Mastic, NY

#93 Apr 29, 2013
Zany Frank is back wrote:
<quoted text>well, that would be PLANNING ahead and the village doesnt do that. Maybe IF this was brought up before, who knows. But to put it in the words of the village Vision team..... "it's ours now gimmie gimmie gimmie!!!"
But who asked you? Right, no one. Go tell it to Gary if you think its a good idea. Im sure he would love it.
Those pesky little facts always seem to get in the way.

After the village was formed they tried to meet with the MBPOA's president. He and the board said no. Our first Mayor brought up the idea of some kind of turnover and lease back arrangement and was turned down.

So they did try negotiations before going to court. So let's stick to facts not made up history.
william floyd parent

White Plains, NY

#94 Apr 29, 2013
Facts Facts Facts wrote:
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Those pesky little facts always seem to get in the way.
After the village was formed they tried to meet with the MBPOA's president. He and the board said no. Our first Mayor brought up the idea of some kind of turnover and lease back arrangement and was turned down.
So they did try negotiations before going to court. So let's stick to facts not made up history.
let's stick to the real facts. mastic beach did not become a village. mastic beach, and parts of mastic and shirley became a village and the area of mastic beach which houses the schools were excluded.

there was no good faith meeting. that is a total fabrications.

Since: Apr 09

Shirley, NY

#95 Apr 29, 2013
Facts Facts Facts wrote:
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Those pesky little facts always seem to get in the way.
After the village was formed they tried to meet with the MBPOA's president. He and the board said no. Our first Mayor brought up the idea of some kind of turnover and lease back arrangement and was turned down.
So they did try negotiations before going to court. So let's stick to facts not made up history.
That sounds like the crime boss who takes over a business and then rents it back to the owner. Its called Racketeering.
Zany Frank is back

East Moriches, NY

#96 Apr 29, 2013
Facts Facts Facts wrote:
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Those pesky little facts always seem to get in the way.
After the village was formed they tried to meet with the MBPOA's president. He and the board said no. Our first Mayor brought up the idea of some kind of turnover and lease back arrangement and was turned down.
So they did try negotiations before going to court. So let's stick to facts not made up history.
Negotiations? Like, "so, when are you handing the keys over to us, we own everything now". Like those kind of negotiations? Because thats how those "negotiations" went. The second set of negotiations was the village asking for the keys again. The third was the village taking the MBPOA to court. And yes, pesky little fact DO get in the way. Like the fact that MB didnt become a village. Judges tend to dwell on those pesky facts.
RIGHT

Shirley, NY

#97 Apr 29, 2013
reality vs misinformation wrote:
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The reason the MBPOA comes up so often in these streams is because they are still holding the waterfront hostage and keeping it for MEMBERS ONLY....everyone knows the intent was for the waterfront, the marinas and even the clubhouse to be maintained for the enjoyment of the entire community not as a private club.
It is long overdue for the property to be turned over to an actual government, which we now have...and allow everyone access to the waterfront.
According to the deed it was for the lot owners of the original 10 sections of Mastic Beach. As long as you exclude the approximately 2, 000 homes that are in the village of Mastic Beach but outside the original ten sections then sure turn it over. Let me know how that works out.
Zip it

East Moriches, NY

#98 Apr 29, 2013
Stop talking about the lawsuit. NOW. Leave it in the courts. Stop showing your hand.
Brady

Stamford, CT

#99 Apr 30, 2013
william floyd parent wrote:
<quoted text>let's stick to the real facts. mastic beach did not become a village. mastic beach, and parts of mastic and shirley became a village and the area of mastic beach which houses the schools were excluded.
there was no good faith meeting. that is a total fabrications.
I would love to know what part of Mastic was included in MBV.
Wrong

East Moriches, NY

#101 Apr 30, 2013
Brady wrote:
<quoted text>I would love to know what part of Mastic was included in MBV.
so go find out Mr Investigator. Tell us all.

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