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New MB Resident

Bronx, NY

#1 Apr 28, 2014
I just bought a house in MB and had a roof installed. The installers said the plywood needed replacement and the enitre house had to be done. Code inforcement came by to stop the job and said I needed a building permit because the roof was taken apart. Has anyone else had this problem? Is this just a money making deal? They said if I just had the shingles replaced it wouldn't have been a problem but removing the dry rotted plywood became a structual issue.
payup

Mastic, NY

#2 Apr 28, 2014
pay for the permit, join the mbpoa, bring cash next Friday so you can bus us some drinks at the clubhouse.
oh yeah.
welcome

Since: Apr 09

Shirley, NY

#3 Apr 28, 2014
Code enforcement of a building inspector? C.E. doesn't know there ass from a hole in the ground. Also. How did they find out? Followed the sounds of hammers?
arm and hammer

Bronx, NY

#4 Apr 28, 2014
Permits are only needed when the structure is compromised whenyou remove the plywood you need a permit. .. also the same in brookhaven , islip , southold , smithtown and any other township. Your contracter should have known that
New MB Resident

Bronx, NY

#5 Apr 28, 2014
Beach Man wrote:
Code enforcement of a building inspector? C.E. doesn't know there ass from a hole in the ground. Also. How did they find out? Followed the sounds of hammers?
He happened to drive by and saw the work being done.
New MB Resident

Bronx, NY

#6 Apr 28, 2014
arm and hammer wrote:
Permits are only needed when the structure is compromised whenyou remove the plywood you need a permit... also the same in brookhaven , islip , southold , smithtown and any other township. Your contracter should have known that
At the time I thought the shingles would just be removed and new ones installed. It wasn't until they reached the wood that they noticed it was dry rotted and suggested it be replaced. I wasn't aware of a permit and I told them to go ahead and replace it. By this time I was down to the rafters when code enforcement came by.He told me the work had to stop and he didn't care that rain was coming in the next few days. Needless to say I went down, got the permit and the job is done.
Brave Code Enforcer

Brooklyn, NY

#7 Apr 28, 2014
I am a brave code E I keep a hammer in my pantz My names Timmy B and I put Mastoids in a trance
arm and hammer

Bronx, NY

#8 Apr 29, 2014
No harm no foul a leason learned
hoodo

Center Moriches, NY

#10 Apr 29, 2014
They never see the real problems.Those they ride right by.Do they ever do any thing but harass people who are trying to fix up their homes.

Since: Apr 09

Mastic Beach, NY

#11 Apr 29, 2014
New MB Resident wrote:
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At the time I thought the shingles would just be removed and new ones installed. It wasn't until they reached the wood that they noticed it was dry rotted and suggested it be replaced. I wasn't aware of a permit and I told them to go ahead and replace it. By this time I was down to the rafters when code enforcement came by.He told me the work had to stop and he didn't care that rain was coming in the next few days. Needless to say I went down, got the permit and the job is done.
Glad there was no damage. Lesson learned indeed.
New MB Resident

Bronx, NY

#12 Apr 29, 2014
hoodo wrote:
They never see the real problems.Those they ride right by.Do they ever do any thing but harass people who are trying to fix up their homes.
Within the next month I'm replacing all of the windows in my house with Anderson and the job is going to cost me $18,000. I just spent $9000.00 on the roof so yes, I'm trying to fix up the home I bought. The home next to me is owned by an absentee landlord who just rented to section 8. I'm waiting to see how well they take care of the place or there is going to be hell to pay if they don't. I'm curious to see how code enforcement will respond.
section 8 renter

Bronx, NY

#13 Apr 29, 2014
Racist
hoodo

Center Moriches, NY

#14 Apr 30, 2014
Dear dumb a** section 8 renter, there was no mention of ethnicity by New MB Resident.Scum comes in all flavors. And living in Mastic Beach for a life time i have seen every sort of flavor of humanity.You don't even know what ethnicity New MB Resident is. You need a reality check.
ha ha ha

Amityville, NY

#15 Apr 30, 2014
arm and hammer wrote:
Permits are only needed when the structure is compromised whenyou remove the plywood you need a permit... also the same in brookhaven , islip , southold , smithtown and any other township. Your contracter should have known that
i have replaced roofs on 3 homes that i have owned. i have never required a building permit. you only need a permit if you are changing the footprint of the roof. i have never heard of a contractor getting a permit to replace a piece of plywood.
ha ha ha

Amityville, NY

#16 Apr 30, 2014
New MB Resident wrote:
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He happened to drive by and saw the work being done.
really? why didn't he "happen by" the guy on whittier selling drugs? the house on magnolia with 10 cars parked there all day long? the house on washington/neighborhood with the illegal curtains hanging from the windows and small kids unsupervised outside?

they only happen by tax paying citizens who are trying to make their homes better.
hoodo

Center Moriches, NY

#17 Apr 30, 2014
Thats what I'm saying. That is why they need to do something other than ride around go to deli's and collect a pay check
New MB Resident

Bronx, NY

#18 Apr 30, 2014
ha ha ha wrote:
<quoted text>really? why didn't he "happen by" the guy on whittier selling drugs? the house on magnolia with 10 cars parked there all day long? the house on washington/neighborhood with the illegal curtains hanging from the windows and small kids unsupervised outside?
they only happen by tax paying citizens who are trying to make their homes better.
All I know is he came by after all of the plywood had been removed from my roof and ordered a stop work because he said removing the plywood made it a structural issue which requires a building permit. I have never heard of such a thing like this and I can't see how removing the plywood degrades the structural integrity of the house. I wasn't changing the foot print of the house or making any changes, I was only replacing dry rotted wood. I went to the village web site and tried to look up the code specific to my situation and it is all legal jargon that refers you to something else and it goes on and on. It did say the code enforcers have the right to do what they want at their own discretion if "they feel" it isn't right. I feel as though I was duped into paying for a permit when one wasn't needed. I was not shown anything specific to the work I was having done, it was their word against mine. They never showed me anything and just said I needed a permit or I would be fined if I continued with the work. The fine is $1000.00 a day for every day that goes by with the work. The same would seem to apply if I decided to remove the front door of my house and replace it with a new one. What if code enforcement drives by and sees a hole in the front of my house? Has the structural integrity of the house been compromised because the door was removed? According to the village web site he can stop you if "he seems to think" it's a problem and you have nothing to say about it. Go look for yourself!
structural guy

Mastic, NY

#19 Apr 30, 2014
Forgive me. But with all the village haters, this conversation seems like it could be phony, just to make the village look bad.

I apologize to you if it's not. As far as your roof goes, replacing your plywood sheeting probably does require a permit. The building code definitely requires a minimum thickness of a roofs underlayment.

If the wrong material is used, the improper thickness installed, or the wrong fasteners are used to attach the sheathing, it could affect the strenth of your roof in severe weather.

Thus, the requirement for a permit.
money money money

Stamford, CT

#20 Apr 30, 2014
New MB Resident wrote:
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All I know is he came by after all of the plywood had been removed from my roof and ordered a stop work because he said removing the plywood made it a structural issue which requires a building permit. I have never heard of such a thing like this and I can't see how removing the plywood degrades the structural integrity of the house. I wasn't changing the foot print of the house or making any changes, I was only replacing dry rotted wood. I went to the village web site and tried to look up the code specific to my situation and it is all legal jargon that refers you to something else and it goes on and on. It did say the code enforcers have the right to do what they want at their own discretion if "they feel" it isn't right. I feel as though I was duped into paying for a permit when one wasn't needed. I was not shown anything specific to the work I was having done, it was their word against mine. They never showed me anything and just said I needed a permit or I would be fined if I continued with the work. The fine is $1000.00 a day for every day that goes by with the work. The same would seem to apply if I decided to remove the front door of my house and replace it with a new one. What if code enforcement drives by and sees a hole in the front of my house? Has the structural integrity of the house been compromised because the door was removed? According to the village web site he can stop you if "he seems to think" it's a problem and you have nothing to say about it. Go look for yourself!
did they ever come back and 'inspect" the plywood to make sure it was properly fastened or not? if they didn't, and just required you to pay a fee, then its only to make money. first, they can not come on to your property so you should have forced them off. second, make Tim B show you in his code handbook, which he should have on hand, where that violation is. I have read the code, and it says NOTHING about replacing plywood or needing a permit for a roof unless you are changing the structure. This is how the village makes money.
money money money

Stamford, CT

#21 Apr 30, 2014
structural guy wrote:
Forgive me. But with all the village haters, this conversation seems like it could be phony, just to make the village look bad.
I apologize to you if it's not. As far as your roof goes, replacing your plywood sheeting probably does require a permit. The building code definitely requires a minimum thickness of a roofs underlayment.
If the wrong material is used, the improper thickness installed, or the wrong fasteners are used to attach the sheathing, it could affect the strenth of your roof in severe weather.
Thus, the requirement for a permit.
the only "need" for a permit is so the village can make money. Why else would they require you to get a permit to replace sheetrock in your home? they make money on us through back door taxes. Like the replace-plywood-on-roof tax.

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