Mastic Beach Crab Fest
Brady

Stamford, CT

#189 Sep 1, 2013
agree wrote:
I see and appreciate your point. Is there something that can be done to straighten this out? Interesting point about the marina being next to the Deputy Mayor's marina. Very interesting, in deed.
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Is there something that can be done? Like what? The village sent a letter to the POA asking for a discussion prior o the lawsuit. The letter was rebuffed. The village could have made an offer to allow the MBPOA to manage and operate the properties, sort of like a concession, for the use and enjoyment of all MBV residents. But, I don't even know if such an offer was made or even contemplated.

Maybe it's not too late for a settlement conference. Both sides can clearly benefit. The MBPOA has an insurer paying for their legal defense. The insurer faces a claim in excess of $1,000,000 which is in dispute. If the village drops the monetary claim and instead just seeks specific performance of the deed, the insurer can just let it happen and bail on the MBPOA. Oops, I said too much!
Whatever

New York, NY

#190 Sep 1, 2013
Brady wrote:
When the village took over governmental control from the Town, the elected officials were required to take over all operations. You and I both know damn well there was a deed that said in plain English that the MBPOA agreed to turn over it's properties to said village. This is not something that can just be dropped without a court interceding.
You like to keep saying this was the purpose for the formation of the village, I know otherwise. It is something that ALL the people of MBV must wait for the court to decide if the deed has merit and if you want, I can post the Judges decision to allow the case to proceed to trial (after all discovery has been turned over).
The MBPOA has been dead set against the village from day one because of only one thing...the deed they signed in 1940. And the vocal few among them are the harbingers of hate. there are village supporters who also post anti-mbpoa stuff, I being one of them.
so tell me wise Brady, why was the very first act the village passed, before anything else, was to sue the MBPOA?(Look up the very first meeting minutes). Not which company to hire for garbage removal. Not which contractors to hire for highway. Not which lawyer to use or which accountant we need or where court should be or any one of the HUNDREDS of acts that needed to be passed to form and run a government, BUT TO SUE THE MBPOA TO TAKE THEIR MARINAS AND PROPERTY!!!!
Maybe they should have waited a week before suing them, it would have looked better in the publics eye.

So no, nothing will get better in MB and every year we get to this before, during and after every election.

And it's the abuse of power and targeting by our elected officials that is the problem. Defend the "village" all you want, but when Gary uses MY tax dollars to fix HS marina, then turns around and tickets the POA for doing the same thing as he did but using members money and volunteers, I have a big problem with that and will voice my outrage at it every day and twice on Sunday!
Whatever

New York, NY

#191 Sep 1, 2013
agree wrote:
I see and appreciate your point. Is there something that can be done to straighten this out? Interesting point about the marina being next to the Deputy Mayor's marina. Very interesting, in deed.
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you didn't know this? You didn't know that the DEPUTY MAYORS marina is next to the MBPOA marina? Or that he wants it to be combined with his? Or that he has a two acre area in the wet lands that he is illegally storing boats on that the village granted him a variance for without public knowledge? There is a lot about this government and its officials that you don't know about then. The MBPOA will not sit by and allow these people to abuse their power. Someone has to stand up to them. If that makes them the bad guys, so be it.
Do what the vision team promised: CLEAN UP THIS MESS !!
agree

Mastic, NY

#192 Sep 1, 2013
The comment made is because most of the comments ARE twisted that way, with name calling, foul language, etc. Just make your points so other people can understand what you're trying to say. You have valid points. I don't think conversations have to degrade into name calling to make a point. I'm trying to understand your point of view. It's not the MBPOA's fault. Attacks degrade conversations and make the posters look like trash. Is this a village of low-lifes or what? If it is, there's no hope no matter what side of the fence one is on.
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>"somehow they'll blame the village"
And there you go!!! It's the MBPOA fault right? Like they are the ones suing and harassing the village.
Do what you promised to do!! Get rid of slumlords and sex offender and sec 8, concentrate on code enforcement and "clean up this mess"!
Instead we get targeting people you want out of MB or speak out against you, suing the MBPOA for everything they have and abusing your power. That's not the government I want nor will it be tolerated.
agree

Mastic, NY

#193 Sep 1, 2013
I did not know a lot of this and am reading here to try to understand what is going on. Some of the posts here (on Topix) are pretty brutal. Not all residents know a lot of the details of what is going on.
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>you didn't know this? You didn't know that the DEPUTY MAYORS marina is next to the MBPOA marina? Or that he wants it to be combined with his? Or that he has a two acre area in the wet lands that he is illegally storing boats on that the village granted him a variance for without public knowledge? There is a lot about this government and its officials that you don't know about then. The MBPOA will not sit by and allow these people to abuse their power. Someone has to stand up to them. If that makes them the bad guys, so be it.
Do what the vision team promised: CLEAN UP THIS MESS !!
Whatever

New York, NY

#194 Sep 1, 2013
agree wrote:
The comment made is because most of the comments ARE twisted that way, with name calling, foul language, etc. Just make your points so other people can understand what you're trying to say. You have valid points. I don't think conversations have to degrade into name calling to make a point. I'm trying to understand your point of view. It's not the MBPOA's fault. Attacks degrade conversations and make the posters look like trash. Is this a village of low-lifes or what? If it is, there's no hope no matter what side of the fence one is on.
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its simple. It will only get better when both sides are in office and the ones abusing the power are out. Until then, don't expect any love between the two. You can't have a fair and open government when it's a one sided government like it is now.
Brady

Stamford, CT

#195 Sep 1, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>you didn't know this? You didn't know that the DEPUTY MAYORS marina is next to the MBPOA marina? Or that he wants it to be combined with his? Or that he has a two acre area in the wet lands that he is illegally storing boats on that the village granted him a variance for without public knowledge? There is a lot about this government and its officials that you don't know about then. The MBPOA will not sit by and allow these people to abuse their power. Someone has to stand up to them. If that makes them the bad guys, so be it.
Do what the vision team promised: CLEAN UP THIS MESS !!
Really...he has a two acre area in the wetlands? Just looked at the tax website and I think you are wrong about that. See, I didn't say you lied. And your assertion that he wants to combine the currently held in trust by MBPOA marina section 5 with his is also fantastic. For him to combine that property, the village would first have to acquire it and then secondly the village would have to sell it to him. Now really, should anything you post be believed?
Oh Brady

New York, NY

#196 Sep 1, 2013
Brady wrote:
<quoted text>Really...he has a two acre area in the wetlands? Just looked at the tax website and I think you are wrong about that. See, I didn't say you lied. And your assertion that he wants to combine the currently held in trust by MBPOA marina section 5 with his is also fantastic. For him to combine that property, the village would first have to acquire it and then secondly the village would have to sell it to him. Now really, should anything you post be believed?
Believe what you want, im sick of your lies. you defend the village when the truth is right there in front of you. YES, Gary used village equipment to block off a public road after sandy. YES, he used village equipment and men to fix his marina after the storm. YOU said they were "volunteering". but it was still village equipment being used that the tax payers paid for and he used them at his personal property. we'll let the courts decide that also. And yes, he owns 2 acres in the wet lands that he has been trying for over a decade to get developed. Again, believe and defend him all you want, I'm sick of the abuse of power and lies being told by the "vision team".
Oh Brady

New York, NY

#197 Sep 1, 2013
The village will always be divided until both sides are in office. Until then, nothing will change and people will still think you, and the vision team continue to lie. Deal with it.
confused

Bronx, NY

#198 Sep 1, 2013
uh Huhh wrote:
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My vengenance is when the judge rules against the MBPOA and if you know anything about law as I do, he will. Then those SCUMBAGS running the MBPOA will get theirs, unless they pull a Hitler, burns the papers and shoot themselves in the Clubhouse Bunker...Kevin Collins as Hitler and Maura as Eva Braun except Eva liked men and knew her place...
you are a sick person.
confused

Bronx, NY

#199 Sep 1, 2013
Brady wrote:
<quoted text>Is there something that can be done? Like what? The village sent a letter to the POA asking for a discussion prior o the lawsuit. The letter was rebuffed. The village could have made an offer to allow the MBPOA to manage and operate the properties, sort of like a concession, for the use and enjoyment of all MBV residents. But, I don't even know if such an offer was made or even contemplated.
Maybe it's not too late for a settlement conference. Both sides can clearly benefit. The MBPOA has an insurer paying for their legal defense. The insurer faces a claim in excess of $1,000,000 which is in dispute. If the village drops the monetary claim and instead just seeks specific performance of the deed, the insurer can just let it happen and bail on the MBPOA. Oops, I said too much!
now you are a lawyer. oops you are a jerk

Since: Apr 09

Mastic, NY

#200 Sep 1, 2013
confused wrote:
<quoted text>now you are a lawyer. oops you are a jerk
Careful or she/he will cut you off to.
Brady

Stamford, CT

#201 Sep 1, 2013
Oh Brady wrote:
<quoted text> Believe what you want, im sick of your lies. you defend the village when the truth is right there in front of you. YES, Gary used village equipment to block off a public road after sandy. YES, he used village equipment and men to fix his marina after the storm. YOU said they were "volunteering". but it was still village equipment being used that the tax payers paid for and he used them at his personal property. we'll let the courts decide that also. And yes, he owns 2 acres in the wet lands that he has been trying for over a decade to get developed. Again, believe and defend him all you want, I'm sick of the abuse of power and lies being told by the "vision team".
You said I am lying when I said you are mistaken that Gary owns 2 acres of wetlands...if he does, then why are they not on the tax maps?

As to your other comments about abuse of power and misuse of village equipment, I will call your bluff and let whatever court you think this issue will be argued decide.
Oh Brady you funny

New York, NY

#202 Sep 1, 2013
Brady wrote:
<quoted text>You said I am lying when I said you are mistaken that Gary owns 2 acres of wetlands...if he does, then why are they not on the tax maps?
As to your other comments about abuse of power and misuse of village equipment, I will call your bluff and let whatever court you think this issue will be argued decide.
Bluff? People have pictures of Stiritz marina with village equipment on, in and around his marina after sandy. And I'm not the one going to court. As I have said for the last year, I can't believe the POA hasn't sued the village yet for harassment. Maybe they will in the future.
What happened to all the tickets the village issued the MBPOA for the shed and electrical work? I heard they revoked them because they knew they weren't legal to issue them in the first place? The village judge couldn't even up-hold them. What happened? I thought they were going to go bankrupt paying them aft the village prosecutor got done with them? Shame it never works out the way you want it to, huh?
Oh Brady you funny

New York, NY

#203 Sep 1, 2013
But getting back to the original topic. Yes, the crab Fest was great this year. Thousands attended, the village showed everyone there what is really important to them and the poa made a LOT of money for the members! Good job MBPOA. See you next year!
Brady

Stamford, CT

#204 Sep 1, 2013
Oh Brady you funny wrote:
<quoted text>Bluff? People have pictures of Stiritz marina with village equipment on, in and around his marina after sandy. And I'm not the one going to court. As I have said for the last year, I can't believe the POA hasn't sued the village yet for harassment. Maybe they will in the future.
What happened to all the tickets the village issued the MBPOA for the shed and electrical work? I heard they revoked them because they knew they weren't legal to issue them in the first place? The village judge couldn't even up-hold them. What happened? I thought they were going to go bankrupt paying them aft the village prosecutor got done with them? Shame it never works out the way you want it to, huh?
you say dismissed....judge said adjourned until October at MBPOA request. Coincidently, that's the month the trial may begin.

Since: Apr 09

Mastic, NY

#205 Sep 1, 2013
How much time and tax payers money was wasted for one group of idiots to fight the other group of idiots? Maybe when we vote out all the original incumbents we will stop this madness. That is my plan. And if everyone with a boat goes one season without joining the POA they will have to shut the doors also. Get rid of all idiots!!
Village Prosecutor

New York, NY

#206 Sep 2, 2013
Brady wrote:
<quoted text>you say dismissed....judge said adjourned until October at MBPOA request. Coincidently, that's the month the trial may begin.
OCTOBER! But that's after he boating season! They won't loss money then! NO FAIR!(Pouts)
agree

Mastic, NY

#207 Sep 2, 2013
It's too bad both parties couldn't work something out. They should have. Too late for that? How much money do you think has been spent (or wasted) on this already?
Brady wrote:
<quoted text>Is there something that can be done? Like what? The village sent a letter to the POA asking for a discussion prior o the lawsuit. The letter was rebuffed. The village could have made an offer to allow the MBPOA to manage and operate the properties, sort of like a concession, for the use and enjoyment of all MBV residents. But, I don't even know if such an offer was made or even contemplated.
Maybe it's not too late for a settlement conference. Both sides can clearly benefit. The MBPOA has an insurer paying for their legal defense. The insurer faces a claim in excess of $1,000,000 which is in dispute. If the village drops the monetary claim and instead just seeks specific performance of the deed, the insurer can just let it happen and bail on the MBPOA. Oops, I said too much!
Brady

Stamford, CT

#208 Sep 2, 2013
Village Prosecutor wrote:
<quoted text>OCTOBER! But that's after he boating season! They won't loss money then! NO FAIR!(Pouts)
Oh Village Proscecuter, you said dismissed. However, put off until October is a little different.

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