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THE LIES and THE FACTS
Just read the latest Village Whiner so many lies so little time -
They (The Village Whiners) claim that the original board was handpicked and groomed by “the founders” Frank and Paul – well in truth a team of residents screened multiple candidates and finally choose the original 4 BUT what they leave out is that Frank and Paul LIED to the trustee candidates and lied to the people of Mastic Beach (or they were extremely ignorant) when they assured them “we know what we are doing we have been studying how to run a village for 4 years”– the actual fact is they had no clue how to run a village, no clue what a village would be responsible for, no clue how to manage a village - and that is why the board of trustees had to take control and correct the course the village was heading in…at which point Paul QUIT, not for any reason but the reason he gave that night "I can not work with this board I quit" Paul ran away and hid and Frank Fig went back to the Bronx.
The Village Whiners state “Let the record show it currently cost 3.9 million to run the village” wow an almost correct fact - what they do not tell you is that the village is providing all the services the town had provided with more Direct Accountability and faster response, even through major disasters, and more importantly the VILLAGE HAS NOT
RAISED YOUR VILLAGE TAXES …even the MBPOA has raised their dock fees.
Bruce and Maura dismisses the removal of 13 sex offenders as “simply a function of Superstorm sandy” he must think our residents
are stupid- did the sex offenders wash away?–This is total
misinformation simply created to bash their opponents. Sex offenders are being located by the village and other entities - then when parks, schools and the such are located within the Magen Law area and the sex offenders are made to move – this has been going on for over 4 years. Tell me Bruce what have you done?
The “whiner” states,“They (Bob and Gail) claim to be environmentalists" This is again is a phony-tactic liars love -make a blatantly false statement, then argue with it to bash the targeted person with more lies. Bob and Gail, while they deeply care about the environment, never stated that they were environmentalists – and have clearly stated that they support protecting the wetland, they support kayaking, eco-tourism and similar efforts, I guess Bruce missed that meeting or email. Bob and Gail have spoken out AGAINST bulk heading and levees and NEVER SUGGESTED FILLING IN THE
WETLANDS – that is a bald-faced lie. Raising roads or replacing them with boardwalks has been discussed by Bob and Gail and was supported as a possibility by “whiner #2” Maura Spery, but I guess Bruce missed that meeting too.
They "complain" that the Village has received blighted properties from the county expressly for low-income housing - that's right the complain! These properties, where blighted buildings and were taken down with new owner-occupied homes replacing them – but to Bruce and Maura this is a bad thing REALLY? Do they prefer the blighted buildings
remain as they did under the town? Instead they want to spend your tax dollars to pay people to move here – I guess raising taxes is no problem to Maura and Bruce if it is their idea.
They go on to suggest the village BUY up properties (even when they are not for sale)– again with more of your tax dollars and build community gardens. Maybe I missed something, but most of our residents have yards even the renters. As for playgrounds, Gail, and her
husband, lead the fight to get a playground at Osprey Park and Gail is currently in negotiation with a major not-forprofit playground developer to bring an $85,000 playground to another part of Mastic Beach, which will not only push sex offenders out but will enhance the community. Again Bruce and Maura – What have you done? Oh yeah you fixed the fence at the MBPOA.
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The propaganda war being waged by Maura and Bruce supporter on topix would make Hitler proud! Note supporter is singular. Pathetic.
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Are you tired of the lies fed to you by the Vision Team?
Tired of finding out AFTER the village buys properties and building with YOUR tax dollars?
Wish you had an actual say in how your government is run like you were promised?

If you said yes, then say YES to Bruce and Maura.
Vote Bruce and Maura for an open government, not back door politics like we have now.
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Weak, very weak, go away bruce and maura and paul and frank
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It's simple. If you don't want people like Zelany working for your village, vote in someone new that will work to remove him from the payroll.
If you are tired of the two sets of rules that we currently have, one for YOU the tax payer, and one for the Village staff and family, vote in someone new that will stop the nepotism and "payback" hiring practices that the current administration seems to rely on.
If you want to see our waterfront say the same, not have a giant hotel by Stiritz marina, vote in someone new to fight the village and their unwarranted need to develop our shoreline.
We have all seen the promises from the MBVEC and then the vision team. They lied to get your vote to get in power. If you are tired of this, vote in someone new. The OLD ways aren't working.

Now let's all wait for the......"I don't work for the village" comment.
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Vote for Bruce and Maura wrote:
Are you tired of the lies fed to you by the Vision Team?
Tired of finding out AFTER the village buys properties and building with YOUR tax dollars?
Wish you had an actual say in how your government is run like you were promised?
If you said yes, then say YES to Bruce and Maura.
Vote Bruce and Maura for an open government, not back door politics like we have now.
I can not believe that someone is so ignorant, so blinded by hate that they do not see that the only people telling lies to the people of Mastic Beach are Maura and Bruce.

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Vote for Bruce and Maura wrote:
It's simple. If you don't want people like Zelany working for your village, vote in someone new that will work to remove him from the payroll.
If you are tired of the two sets of rules that we currently have, one for YOU the tax payer, and one for the Village staff and family, vote in someone new that will stop the nepotism and "payback" hiring practices that the current administration seems to rely on.
If you want to see our waterfront say the same, not have a giant hotel by Stiritz marina, vote in someone new to fight the village and their unwarranted need to develop our shoreline.
We have all seen the promises from the MBVEC and then the vision team. They lied to get your vote to get in power. If you are tired of this, vote in someone new. The OLD ways aren't working.
Now let's all wait for the......"I don't work for the village" comment.
Giant Hotel...really? Wouldn't that require DEC approval? Wouldn't that require a sewer connection? Wouldn't that require a large enough piece of property for the building and parking lot?

But let's not forget that Because of the flood elevation of that area (about 3 foot above sea level at mean low tide), the land is not suitable for this type of construction.

And......he doesn't work for the village. Bada bing!
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The only lies I have heard have come from the MBVEC and their members. Later from the vision team. They told a few dozen of them to get the people to vote in a village.
Some of the lies...
TOB would handle snow removal and road repairs.
We will not have salaries.
All workers in village hall will be volunteers.
We don't want the POA waterfront.
We will work within a 500,000 budget.
We will not buy anything and keep costs down.
A village can remove sec 8 and sex offenders.
Those and many more...

Sorry, but I am sick of the lies. I have heard them for years now and I want a change. Hatred has nothing to do with being lied to. I don't like liars, there for I don't like the current administration.

If YOU feel the same, vote in new candidates and make a change for the better.

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Vote for Bruce and Maura wrote:
The only lies I have heard have come from the MBVEC and their members. Later from the vision team. They told a few dozen of them to get the people to vote in a village.
Some of the lies...
TOB would handle snow removal and road repairs.
We will not have salaries.
All workers in village hall will be volunteers.
We don't want the POA waterfront.
We will work within a 500,000 budget.
We will not buy anything and keep costs down.
A village can remove sec 8 and sex offenders.
Those and many more...
Sorry, but I am sick of the lies. I have heard them for years now and I want a change. Hatred has nothing to do with being lied to. I don't like liars, there for I don't like the current administration.
If YOU feel the same, vote in new candidates and make a change for the better.
Please tell me how Maura and Bruce will rid MBV of the plague of section 8, welfare, and other poverty stricken wretches. They seem to think these unfortunate people are undesirables. I remember just before the village vote, They were against allowing renters the right to vote in village elections (it's a property owners thing...).

And if you feel the same way, there are other candidates besides Bruce and Maura.
Deal with it

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Really Brady wrote:
<quoted text>Please tell me how Maura and Bruce will rid MBV of the plague of section 8, welfare, and other poverty stricken wretches. They seem to think these unfortunate people are undesirables. I remember just before the village vote, They were against allowing renters the right to vote in village elections (it's a property owners thing...).
And if you feel the same way, there are other candidates besides Bruce and Maura.
they, Maura and Bruce, didn't PROMISE us they would rid our areas of section 8. YOU and the MBVEC DID! As I recall, that was one of Zany's lead offs to why we needed a village. "To get rid of the scum and ni***rs". Quote! No I don't have it on tape, you will need to ask Alan if he has one.
And not once did Bruce or Maura say renters can't vote. I do recall quit a few village supporters saying that only homeowners should vote, but we all know that they can't allow that. Where you LIVE, is where you vote. That's why Franks wife doesn't vote in MB. She votes in the city.
Any more lies you want to get off your chest? Maybe say Maura and Bruce kicks puppies and beats old people? Hummm?
Why

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Vote for Bruce and Maura wrote:
It's simple. If you don't want people like Zelany working for your village, vote in someone new that will work to remove him from the payroll.
If you are tired of the two sets of rules that we currently have, one for YOU the tax payer, and one for the Village staff and family, vote in someone new that will stop the nepotism and "payback" hiring practices that the current administration seems to rely on.
If you want to see our waterfront say the same, not have a giant hotel by Stiritz marina, vote in someone new to fight the village and their unwarranted need to develop our shoreline.
We have all seen the promises from the MBVEC and then the vision team. They lied to get your vote to get in power. If you are tired of this, vote in someone new. The OLD ways aren't working.
Now let's all wait for the......"I don't work for the village" comment.
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If you know he does not work for the village then why do you continue to say it? You must think all the people in Mastic Beach are total idiots - let me enlighten you - those are just the people you get drunk with at the MBPOA the rest of us can see that it is all simply a ploy to turn-off the voters and lower the voter turnout.,that way the 200 village haters can sway the vote...because they have to vote or loose their money machine the marinas.
Deal with it

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Why wrote:
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If you know he does not work for the village then why do you continue to say it? You must think all the people in Mastic Beach are total idiots - let me enlighten you - those are just the people you get drunk with at the MBPOA the rest of us can see that it is all simply a ploy to turn-off the voters and lower the voter turnout.,that way the 200 village haters can sway the vote...because they have to vote or loose their money machine the marinas.
WHY would I continue to vote for a group of people who started the village on lies, continues to make promises they will NEVR keep and has hired village workers based on "payback" and nepotism? Why would I do that? I'm not one of the "payback" village workers and I'm not related to Gary. Therefor I don't have a say in the village. My voice means nothing to them. Calling me a drunk will not change that. me voting the elected officials that have made the village the joke it is out of office will change that.
So, I'm voting for the two people who are the least like you yes village zombies. There's no malice behind it. Im over being lied to. When Bruce and Maura get into office, if it turns out they lied to me, I'll vote them out at their next election.thats the beauty of the village. We get to vote every year.

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A lot of things were said during the village incorporation process. Something's didn't happen. Huge tax increases for one. When it turned out the Town ceded all responsibilities to the village, the one thing nobody can dispute us COST NEUTRAL.
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Paul's the one who gets credit for the tob droping services
More lies

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If you believe that this village will be cost neutral within another 3 years you have a sever hallucination problem. Adding highway,more salaries, pensions, medical plans and a bigger village hall the average village tax will be between $800--$1500 a year. This will happen within the next few years. I said it in the beginning that we will bear a double taxation to attain a village. We are paying for Brookhaven's town hall and now ours. We are paying for code enforcement for ourselves as well as Brookhaven even though we are not using it anymore. The list goes on and on. This is the most absurd thing that we have done to ourselves and it will get worse. Wake up everyone as we all screwed up getting into this nightmare.
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Gee, let's put your numbers into perspective.

5,400 houses paying an increase of $1,000=$54,000,000 MORE

Where did you get the idea the village was going to incur more salaries, pension, medical plans? The bigger village hall is Bonded and will be paid for out of current funds.

Everybody in the Town of Brookhaven, including Patchogue village, Port Jeff Village, etc. pay the Town taxes because we all do live in the town and we do occasionally use town roads which need to be maintained. What we do NOT pay is the part-town fund (that instead goes to the village).

There has not been a tax increase in 3 years.

But you seem to be worried. I know you are considering to dissolve the village. If you need any information about that, please don't hesitate to ask.
The Puppet Master

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Deal with it wrote:
<quoted text>WHY would I continue to vote for a group of people who started the village on lies, continues to make promises they will NEVR keep and has hired village workers based on "payback" and nepotism? Why would I do that? I'm not one of the "payback" village workers and I'm not related to Gary. Therefor I don't have a say in the village. My voice means nothing to them. Calling me a drunk will not change that. me voting the elected officials that have made the village the joke it is out of office will change that.
So, I'm voting for the two people who are the least like you yes village zombies. There's no malice behind it. Im over being lied to. When Bruce and Maura get into office, if it turns out they lied to me, I'll vote them out at their next election.thats the beauty of the village. We get to vote every year.
You are kidding right - those two can not tell the truth if their life depended on it - Oh sure now little sweet Ms Spery loves everyone and only wants to help - but give her power and she will do what she did to the MBPOA - lie it into disaster. You can not be that ill-informed. Maura is a shrewd woman, a fantastic lier, who can fool people but she is shrewd and manipulates people - she is very good at getting what she wants - but look out if you get in her way - that is not a person I want on the Village board. For this election she manipulated Bruce into thinking he has a say in the election - he is there to do the dirty work while she pretends to be the caring village supporter -it make me want to vomit. By the way were exactly are all these payback and nepotism - point it out to the board instead of just talking around it.
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Brady I do not know how you do not get it. Yes we will have to bear another big expense for the highway dept which will include another building purchase and yes we will end up with more employees as time goes on which will include more employees, salaries, pension and health benefits which are the same as we are paying to upkeep Brookhaven towns payroll which = double taxing ourselves. This scenario is like hiring another baby sitter to watch the babysitter you have watching your children. It is totally ludicrous. The worst part of this nightmare is the fact that the village is being run by a learn while you earn bunch of incompetent people who lack in every aspect of being in management of such a huge day to day operation of running a village. You keep saying look at the present picture in that we are cost neutral. Well I am looking a little past the cost neutral part as I can see judging by the careless financial planning in that I promise you it will not last. The bandage that they have covering the cut is now dried out. The runner ups in my estimate are not experienced to win a chair, the past mayor and Frank deceived us with lies to get the original village enacted. So Brady I ask you "who is the right candidates for the job????
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Victor zeleny wrote:
Paul's the one who gets credit for the tob droping services
no. Becoming a village is why the TOB dropped us from all services. The TOB told us they would no longer work for us if we became a village. It was the meeting where you all walked out in a huffy fit led by Frank. I remember it well. Don't blame Paul, blame becoming a village.
But that's old history. The RIGHT already told us before we became a village that the TOB wouldn't be working for any village unless there was a cost increase? YOU just chose not to believe it. Another vision team lie.
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