City Resident

Morgantown, WV

#363 Mar 14, 2013
Truth be known. Dan Boroff was tired of the BS pushed on him by the then liberal majority council (Byrne, Selin, Spencer and Byrer)who wanted him out so they could bring about the change they so desperately wanted. So he (Boroff) took the high road and retired. He was followed by several other department heads. They then hired Terrance Moore and gave them their agenda. The plan was derailed by the city election and a more conservative council was seated. Moore didn't get along well with council and from my standpoint, was only a fair city manager. He didn't get along well with WVU, business people or city employees which lead to his resigning and moving on.
Morgantown Mom

Morgantown, WV

#364 Mar 14, 2013
City Resident wrote:
Truth be known. Dan Boroff was tired of the BS pushed on him by the then liberal majority council (Byrne, Selin, Spencer and Byrer)who wanted him out so they could bring about the change they so desperately wanted. So he (Boroff) took the high road and retired. He was followed by several other department heads. They then hired Terrance Moore and gave them their agenda. The plan was derailed by the city election and a more conservative council was seated. Moore didn't get along well with council and from my standpoint, was only a fair city manager. He didn't get along well with WVU, business people or city employees which lead to his resigning and moving on.
First time post. I have read over most of the posts and with the exception of a very few, I mostly agree. I think the council is in a unique position to get Morgantown back on track. I sincerely hope that they will at least get a city manager who has some ties to WV and knows how things work. In my opinion that has been a factor in many of our city problems.

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#365 Mar 16, 2013
Morgantown Mom wrote:
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First time post. I have read over most of the posts and with the exception of a very few, I mostly agree. I think the council is in a unique position to get Morgantown back on track. I sincerely hope that they will at least get a city manager who has some ties to WV and knows how things work. In my opinion that has been a factor in many of our city problems.
Thanks for joining! In this case, I agree. Terrence Moore was chosen, to a large degree, because he agreed to move Morgantown forward on Home Rule as the liberal council at the time wished. I suspect the choice to delay entering the home rule pilot program was key in Byrnes behind the scenes desire to get rid of Boroff. This is all becoming public now that Moore is gone and Byrne is not running for reelection.
The last council lacked ethics and transparency. If you'll remember, during the last election, we discovered that Spencer developed a plan for an additional 3.25% city sales tax that was never covered in open council meetings. Now, we have the "progressive" Morgantown Together group creating and politicizing issues and crisises that that were complicit in creating. The sad thing is, Byrne is actively trying to conceal the truth about issues such as the dramatic DECREASE in crime in Morgantown from the public. The truth doesn't support the illusion that he needs to create to convince the community that the present council really has moved us into a better place. We'd really be better off if it weren't for 4 years of spending under Byrne and Moore.
Silverstar5

Morgantown, WV

#366 Mar 17, 2013
Motransplant wrote:
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Thanks for joining! In this case, I agree. Terrence Moore was chosen, to a large degree, because he agreed to move Morgantown forward on Home Rule as the liberal council at the time wished. I suspect the choice to delay entering the home rule pilot program was key in Byrnes behind the scenes desire to get rid of Boroff. This is all becoming public now that Moore is gone and Byrne is not running for reelection.
The last council lacked ethics and transparency. If you'll remember, during the last election, we discovered that Spencer developed a plan for an additional 3.25% city sales tax that was never covered in open council meetings. Now, we have the "progressive" Morgantown Together group creating and politicizing issues and crisises that that were complicit in creating. The sad thing is, Byrne is actively trying to conceal the truth about issues such as the dramatic DECREASE in crime in Morgantown from the public. The truth doesn't support the illusion that he needs to create to convince the community that the present council really has moved us into a better place. We'd really be better off if it weren't for 4 years of spending under Byrne and Moore.
I agree with your statements with the exception of a decrease in crime. I doubt our police officers would agree with this statement either. From my observation, the crime rate is inching upwards as services have been cut. Morgantown has become a hub for drug dealing gangsters from urban areas. With that comes additional crime. Look around and see how our neighborhoods have declined.
Townie

Morgantown, WV

#367 Mar 17, 2013
Silverstar5 wrote:
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I agree with your statements with the exception of a decrease in crime. I doubt our police officers would agree with this statement either. From my observation, the crime rate is inching upwards as services have been cut. Morgantown has become a hub for drug dealing gangsters from urban areas. With that comes additional crime. Look around and see how our neighborhoods have declined.
It probably depends on which crime rates your talking about. Violent, non-violent, etc. As for the decline in the neighborhoods, I will have to disagree and blame that on property owners. If you rent to trash, expect your neighborhoods to look like trash. Take pride in your property, and the neighborhoods will reflect it.
Silverstar5

Morgantown, WV

#368 Mar 17, 2013
Townie wrote:
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It probably depends on which crime rates your talking about. Violent, non-violent, etc. As for the decline in the neighborhoods, I will have to disagree and blame that on property owners. If you rent to trash, expect your neighborhoods to look like trash. Take pride in your property, and the neighborhoods will reflect it.
I place blame on the city for not enforcing code regulations. Another example of negative changes within the city. As more people move out of neigborhoods, run down littered properties are becoming more the norm driving down property values.
city resident

Morgantown, WV

#369 Mar 18, 2013
Motransplant wrote:
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Thanks for joining! In this case, I agree. Terrence Moore was chosen, to a large degree, because he agreed to move Morgantown forward on Home Rule as the liberal council at the time wished. I suspect the choice to delay entering the home rule pilot program was key in Byrnes behind the scenes desire to get rid of Boroff. This is all becoming public now that Moore is gone and Byrne is not running for reelection.
The last council lacked ethics and transparency. If you'll remember, during the last election, we discovered that Spencer developed a plan for an additional 3.25% city sales tax that was never covered in open council meetings. Now, we have the "progressive" Morgantown Together group creating and politicizing issues and crisises that that were complicit in creating. The sad thing is, Byrne is actively trying to conceal the truth about issues such as the dramatic DECREASE in crime in Morgantown from the public. The truth doesn't support the illusion that he needs to create to convince the community that the present council really has moved us into a better place. We'd really be better off if it weren't for 4 years of spending under Byrne and Moore.
Provide evidence for your claims that isn't hearsay. I am merely curious as to the basis of your claims.
Newshound

Morgantown, WV

#370 Mar 18, 2013
Had intentions of attending the forum for city council candidates tonight but sickness prevented me from attending. I hope someone posts their opinions on here.
city resident

United States

#371 Mar 19, 2013
Newshound wrote:
Had intentions of attending the forum for city council candidates tonight but sickness prevented me from attending. I hope someone posts their opinions on here.
Lots of good discussion. general consensus was we need more autonomy from charleston to help empower us to make decisions to get us back on track.

Since: Jul 12

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#372 Mar 19, 2013
city resident wrote:
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Provide evidence for your claims that isn't hearsay. I am merely curious as to the basis of your claims.
I'm sorry, did you mean, "Please provide evidence..."?
I see absolutely no evidence or sources listed in your previous several posts that allege issues with 4 councillors.
Could that just be hearsay? Or, perhaps just personal venom...
Perhaps you didn't know that the city manager is the guy in the big chair...oh, that's right...he wasn't capable...

Since: Jul 12

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#373 Mar 19, 2013
Newshound wrote:
Had intentions of attending the forum for city council candidates tonight but sickness prevented me from attending. I hope someone posts their opinions on here.
Fairly well attended. Several talked, but didn't answer questions. Kawecki seemed uncomfortable and out of focus. Graham was very focused and well prepared. I don't know him well, so I had no expectations but he made the case that he was council-worthy as did Fufari and Redmond. Ganz OK with spin, but little substance. File somewhat prepared, but spoke as though he was addressing children...blame the day job, I guess!
The incumbents were as they are on council. Selin at a disadvantage because of the time restriction...couldn't just ramble as usual. Shamberger clueless as usual. Bane late, but OK when he got there. Manilla did well, Herbst did well, but at a disadvantage as she went last most of the time and many ideas had already been expressed. Nugent did well and had command of many facts.
Kubla

Morgantown, WV

#374 Mar 19, 2013
Motransplant wrote:
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Fairly well attended. Several talked, but didn't answer questions. Kawecki seemed uncomfortable and out of focus. Graham was very focused and well prepared. I don't know him well, so I had no expectations but he made the case that he was council-worthy as did Fufari and Redmond. Ganz OK with spin, but little substance. File somewhat prepared, but spoke as though he was addressing children...blame the day job, I guess!
The incumbents were as they are on council. Selin at a disadvantage because of the time restriction...couldn't just ramble as usual. Shamberger clueless as usual. Bane late, but OK when he got there. Manilla did well, Herbst did well, but at a disadvantage as she went last most of the time and many ideas had already been expressed. Nugent did well and had command of many facts.
Pretty good summary of the candidates. I know all of them, some better than others. Agree that Selin and Shamberger like Ganz and Kawecki are community activist. I don't think we need that on council. Redman and Furfari are both business owners. They would be good additions to council. Fike is weak, has nothing to do with his day job. Nice guy but not sure he's what we need right now. He would be better off on the library board or tree board. Graham would be good too, he's no dummy and worked for the city for years. I'm ok with Bane, Nugent and Manilla.

Since: Mar 13

East Liverpool, OH

#375 Mar 20, 2013
Anybody see council last nite?
Think I saw most of it but had to travel...
So, who's the mainstreet dude? Cold character! Chewed up Byrne and shi* him out!
As I like to say, he took Byrne to school with no lunch money! Loved it when he said it was gonna get "uncomfortable" for the x-mayor.... A real Hallmark moment! Musta scared the crap outta Byrne cause he just stammered so MS dude couldn't talk! Priceless!!
If it were up to me, I'd say we got mayor material in that guy. Get the sense there's more than meets the eye the way he handled that blowhard.....ex-spec-ops or state dept, if you catch my drift.
Good thing Bane is un-opposed in this race cause he lost my vote last nite. Seems to have lost his balls now that he could actually win a vote. Tried awfully hard to put words in Herbsts mouth.
Had high hopes for Herbst till she fell for Byrne and Selins shi* on Sunnyside up money pit and took away her motion. Really sad. Bane didn't help.
I'm thinking that if anyone on council had a clue about finance, they wouldn't have put up with Moore as long as they did.
Anybody else notice that smirk on Selins face? Is that arrogance or Walmart plastic surgery?
Morgantown Together group is scary and stupid! They need to move to California where nobody worries about paying bills! Farthest "left" you can go in the US anyway!
Later.....
Ron

East Liverpool, OH

#376 Mar 21, 2013
I think we have some good candidates. Jim Manilla is a good mayor. I've known him for many years. He understands small business and the downtown. I also support Herbst, Bane, and Nugent. The jury is still out on Fufari and Redmond, as I don't know too much about them, but they may offer some new energy to council. In my opinion, and after looking at some research, the others are more activist oriented and would not be good for Morgantown.
Kubla

Morgantown, WV

#377 Mar 21, 2013
Schwettyballs wrote:
Anybody see council last nite?
Think I saw most of it but had to travel...
So, who's the mainstreet dude? Cold character! Chewed up Byrne and shi* him out!
As I like to say, he took Byrne to school with no lunch money! Loved it when he said it was gonna get "uncomfortable" for the x-mayor.... A real Hallmark moment! Musta scared the crap outta Byrne cause he just stammered so MS dude couldn't talk! Priceless!!
If it were up to me, I'd say we got mayor material in that guy. Get the sense there's more than meets the eye the way he handled that blowhard.....ex-spec-ops or state dept, if you catch my drift.
Good thing Bane is un-opposed in this race cause he lost my vote last nite. Seems to have lost his balls now that he could actually win a vote. Tried awfully hard to put words in Herbsts mouth.
Had high hopes for Herbst till she fell for Byrne and Selins shi* on Sunnyside up money pit and took away her motion. Really sad. Bane didn't help.
I'm thinking that if anyone on council had a clue about finance, they wouldn't have put up with Moore as long as they did.
Anybody else notice that smirk on Selins face? Is that arrogance or Walmart plastic surgery?
Morgantown Together group is scary and stupid! They need to move to California where nobody worries about paying bills! Farthest "left" you can go in the US anyway!
Later.....
Didn't watch the meeting so don't know who you are talking about with Main Street? The director is a lady by the name of Cutright.
Let's be honest about Terrence Moore. Although I agree in principal, city manager works for council and they can replace him when they want but council had to step very lightly while pushing him out. Had it been anyone else, wouldn't have lasted more than a year. The department heads are appointed by the city manager and can be replaced in the same manner. They are "at will" employees with no contracts.
City employee

Morgantown, WV

#378 Mar 21, 2013
I know that employees are anxiously awaiting more change. Don't know if the average citizen knows just what a screwed up mess these outsiders have caused. We are in dire need of a good house cleaning. Getting Terrence Moore out of city hall was a good first step.
Townie

Morgantown, WV

#379 Mar 21, 2013
City employee wrote:
I know that employees are anxiously awaiting more change. Don't know if the average citizen knows just what a screwed up mess these outsiders have caused. We are in dire need of a good house cleaning. Getting Terrence Moore out of city hall was a good first step.
The "outsiders" as you call them have not created the problems, it's the few do-gooder idiots on city council that have created the majority of the problems. Replace the with people who don't give away every penny the city has to every group that holds out their hands, then we will finally start to see some change.
Local Politics

Morgantown, WV

#380 Mar 21, 2013
Townie wrote:
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The "outsiders" as you call them have not created the problems, it's the few do-gooder idiots on city council that have created the majority of the problems. Replace the with people who don't give away every penny the city has to every group that holds out their hands, then we will finally start to see some change.
Not the case here. The city has always funded various groups and agencies over the years. Nothing much has changed in that respect. What has changed is the management style of the failed city manager and what he referred to as his "directors". Agree with the previous post that these folks would be doing themselves and the city a favor by leaving on their own instead of being embarrassing themselves.

Since: Jul 12

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#381 Mar 22, 2013
Local Politics wrote:
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Not the case here. The city has always funded various groups and agencies over the years. Nothing much has changed in that respect. What has changed is the management style of the failed city manager and what he referred to as his "directors". Agree with the previous post that these folks would be doing themselves and the city a favor by leaving on their own instead of being embarrassing themselves.
I agree for the most part. Moore gave substantial raises to some city employees...I suspect that it was to buy their allegiance. I'm not at all saying that they were not good at their jobs, but he didn't know that yet and the raises we're inappropriate given he didn't know the fiscal lay of the land yet.
I can't tell you the number of times that I heard him refer to himself and his new finance director as "municipal finance experts". Never in the past 2 years has that ever been demonstrated. I believe that his budget forecasting method somewhat resembled the "Wheel Of Fortune" turntable full of random numbers.
Byrne, Selin and Shamberger were never going to see the problems because they were complicit in his hiring. Shamberger referred to anyone critical of him a racist...she said that often enough that it was heard by some outside of council. These are the councillors preaching "inclusiveness" and "diversity". All smoke and mirrors.
As a result, I understand the post above saying the remaining 4 had to step lightly.
I've known several people in my lifetime I could call racists...they were, without exception, ALWAYS the ones that were the first to level the charge of "RACIST" against anyone who disagrees with them.
We are faced with the possibility of even less focus on what pays the bills if the Morgantown Together group gains an advantage on this next council. Their willingness to lie about crime and mislead the public about their true intentions should be of concern to business, neighborhoods, WVU, and students alike.

Since: Jul 12

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#382 Mar 22, 2013
Schwettyballs wrote:
Anybody see council last nite?
Think I saw most of it but had to travel...
So, who's the mainstreet dude? Cold character! Chewed up Byrne and shi* him out!
As I like to say, he took Byrne to school with no lunch money! Loved it when he said it was gonna get "uncomfortable" for the x-mayor.... A real Hallmark moment! Musta scared the crap outta Byrne cause he just stammered so MS dude couldn't talk! Priceless!!
If it were up to me, I'd say we got mayor material in that guy. Get the sense there's more than meets the eye the way he handled that blowhard.....ex-spec-ops or state dept, if you catch my drift.
Good thing Bane is un-opposed in this race cause he lost my vote last nite. Seems to have lost his balls now that he could actually win a vote. Tried awfully hard to put words in Herbsts mouth.
Had high hopes for Herbst till she fell for Byrne and Selins shi* on Sunnyside up money pit and took away her motion. Really sad. Bane didn't help.
I'm thinking that if anyone on council had a clue about finance, they wouldn't have put up with Moore as long as they did.
Anybody else notice that smirk on Selins face? Is that arrogance or Walmart plastic surgery?
Morgantown Together group is scary and stupid! They need to move to California where nobody worries about paying bills! Farthest "left" you can go in the US anyway!
Later.....
I know the guy you're talking about. I'm not surprised Byrne was afraid to let him talk. Byrne doesn't want any facts out to get in the way of his narrative. MS dude,(George, the President), is pretty engaged when he speaks.
For all of his criticism, what did Byrne do as mayor? Oh yea, he tried to be mayor of a mile of Westover. I guess he didn't think he pissed off enough people here, so he'd try to piss off Westover too!
BTW, there were more victims of crime under his tenure than today. Not to mention the fraud on the citizenry with him trying to make us believe he was competent.

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