Morgantown city hates WVU students

Morgantown city hates WVU students

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WVU Student parent

Bluefield, WV

#1 Sep 9, 2011
I am a parent of WVU students. I have lived in several university towns. Morgantown city officals appears to hate their chief assset, WVU students. They allow towing companies free reign with no constraint of lawless abuse of students, allow land lords to have very dangerous, substandard, filty housing to rent that would violate fire, health, and building codes in any other city, and the police harass students and city officals applaud and fully support their violation of civil rights. I have suspected towing companies and land lords basically run the city, or many city officals are "on the take" from both. I have rarely seen such a crooked city government, outside Chicago. Those who have nominated the city as a great place to live have not experienced the lawlessness of city officals.
Local Politics

Morgantown, WV

#2 Sep 9, 2011
I suspect by the tone of your post, you or someone close to you just got towed from a private parking lot. You have some valid points but you should know the facts before you sling mud at the whole city. I don't think anyone hates the students, in fact the city and county embrace them knowing full well they are the lifeblood of Monongalia County. Many "locals" will tell you that for the most part, residents and city officials are fairly lenient and very tolerent of students. What would happen if I drove my car into someones driveway in Welch WV and walked away? I suspect that it would be towed in short order. Basically, it's the same here. Park in a private lot and get towed. Is it right that tow companies "prowl" the lots? NO! but it's legal. Are there deplorable filthy rentals? YES but there is bad housing everywhere. You speak of lawless abuse of students? If you have proof of that, you should contact the prosecuting attorney with facts. This isn't the 60's and there is accountability. Isn't Welch where the State Police nearly killed some guy for reporting their "lawless" behavior? If I remember right, they went to prison. But that was based on facts, not posting an anonymous generalized rant saying everyone in Morgantown is crooked. That's not fair!
mistymorn

Morgantown, WV

#3 Sep 9, 2011
I agree with some of the points made. There are some pretty nasty houses and apartments and the tow companies take advantage of students. But just look around Morgantown, less than a month ago students returned and town is trashed. Beer cans and cups in every yard, music blaring and drunk kids everywhere. I think we are too easy on students. If they want respect, they should respect us and our town.
Motowngal

Lubbock, TX

#4 Sep 10, 2011
Morgantown is known country wide as a party school. The students will never stop drinking, having house parties, going downtown, etc. I've lived here five years and I consider myself some-what of a townie. I'll complain about the traffic, the trash, the kids running out in front of your car as you drive, the long lines at restaurants, etc. but Morgantown wouldn't be Morgantown without the students! Every business in Morgantown has the students to thank for their profit and business.

While some of the houses in town might not be the nicest they're all still up to code and while you, as a parent, might complain, us, as students or young townies, do not. There are more than enough options in Morgantown when it comes to housing. If you don't like the houses then move to an apartment complex. There are PLENTY of them around and they're NICE! Also, I've been to Welch... I don't really see how you're complaining about the housing in Motown..

One thing that I can commend Morgantown for is the lack of CRIME in our town. It is very, very rare that you hear about violent or drug related crimes happening. I know that there are handfuls of fist fights downtown on the weekends but you never hear about crimes committed against students. I can honestly say that everywhere in Morgantown I've been I always feel safe, even at night. Definitely can't say that about most other towns in West Virginia!!!
WVU Parent 2

Clarksburg, WV

#5 Sep 11, 2011
I agree with WVU parent. I too am a WVU parent and my second child is now in Morgantown. Don't even begin to tell me how "nice" the apartment complexes are. Have you been in them? Do you realize how poorly they are maintained, not to mention poorly built? And how about what they charge? For slums ... are you kidding me? They may be up to code for Morgantown, but I doubt they would be anywhere else! As for moving if you don't like it, you might as well forget that. You're locked in tight legally! I don't consider taking students money and putting them in filthy dirty bug-infested apartments treating them well! As for towing ... as parents we were temporary in a completely empty parking lot after the school term ended loading up to move our student and a tow truck tried to tow us. However, he was more than happy to unhook us and let us go for a price! Please - don't even begin to tell me how well and fairly WVU students are treated by towing companies and landlords in Morgantown. That's a joke!
Thinker

Morgantown, WV

#6 Sep 11, 2011
WVU Parent 2 wrote:
I agree with WVU parent. I too am a WVU parent and my second child is now in Morgantown. Don't even begin to tell me how "nice" the apartment complexes are. Have you been in them? Do you realize how poorly they are maintained, not to mention poorly built? And how about what they charge? For slums ... are you kidding me? They may be up to code for Morgantown, but I doubt they would be anywhere else! As for moving if you don't like it, you might as well forget that. You're locked in tight legally! I don't consider taking students money and putting them in filthy dirty bug-infested apartments treating them well! As for towing ... as parents we were temporary in a completely empty parking lot after the school term ended loading up to move our student and a tow truck tried to tow us. However, he was more than happy to unhook us and let us go for a price! Please - don't even begin to tell me how well and fairly WVU students are treated by towing companies and landlords in Morgantown. That's a joke!
Do people not look at apartments at all before renting? If a place is a slum, poorly built..etc These are things any reasonable person would notice before signing a lease. The companies leasing these apartments make it seem like you are locked in legally, but in reality a renter has more rights than they usually realize, its just no one takes the time to pursue such matters. Simply because a lease may state whatever craziness they want does not mean you have any breathing room. Another thing that visitors, parents, students seem to get misconstrued is that Morgantown City lets this all happen, well that simply isn't the case. A majority of apartment complexes and rental properties lay just outside of the boundaries of city limits, and these huge apartment complexes and their accompanying parking lots are all private property. This is why tow companies fish these lots, property owners don't mind because it gets rid of the people without permits and what not, while tow companies reap the benefits of charging exuberant prices, nonetheless its shitty, but not illegal. There are nice apartment complexes in the Morgantown area, but people don't realize that Morgantowns cost of living is much higher than all surrounding areas. For example; a nice, well equipped apartment 10 miles outside of Morgantown may cost $600 per month, but a similar apartment within the Morgantown/WVU area is $950+. People always forget that detail, then when they get stuck with a crappy rental they cry foul and blame everyone and everything but themselves. Don't sign the dotted line if a property doesn't meet your standards. Do some research before anything, especially before talking bad about an entire community otherwise it makes you look ignorant and blind to us "locals".
Local Politics

Morgantown, WV

#7 Sep 12, 2011
Another point that needs to be made, although people generally refer to our area as Morgantown, many areas are actually outside of the city limits and when it comes to building codes and enforcement, not under the control of city officials. This is especially true of apartments that are in what we locals refer to as the "county". These areas are prime for apartments and townhouses because there are NO building codes enforced. Many apartment buildings are just short distances from the city line, for obvious reasons. I have to agree with the posts concerning the tow companies but as someone mentioned, what they do is legal. Unless the state legislature changes the law, city or county officials have no say on what they charge or how they conduct business.
The Law

Charleston, WV

#8 Sep 12, 2011
WVU Student parent wrote:
I am a parent of WVU students. I have lived in several university towns. Morgantown city officals appears to hate their chief assset, WVU students. They allow towing companies free reign with no constraint of lawless abuse of students, allow land lords to have very dangerous, substandard, filty housing to rent that would violate fire, health, and building codes in any other city, and the police harass students and city officals applaud and fully support their violation of civil rights. I have suspected towing companies and land lords basically run the city, or many city officals are "on the take" from both. I have rarely seen such a crooked city government, outside Chicago. Those who have nominated the city as a great place to live have not experienced the lawlessness of city officals.
You need to understand that you have no right to express this opinion. You will be set upon by the townies who think it's their constitutional right to rip off students.

Morgantwon is a shithole of corruption. The people who live there think it's normal because they don't know any better. Everybody else in the State has always known that Morgantown is full of thieves who pray on the students and their parents. But say it to a townie and you'll get your throat ripped out. Those people are nasty and they don't want to lose their little gig because without the students to rip off, a lot of people in Morganhole wouldn't be living the high life.

People have complained about it for years and nothing has ever been done. But one day, they'll mess with the wrong family and something will be done about it.

Morgantown wouldn't exist without the students but they don't seem to understand that.
The Law

Charleston, WV

#9 Sep 12, 2011
mistymorn wrote:
I agree with some of the points made. There are some pretty nasty houses and apartments and the tow companies take advantage of students. But just look around Morgantown, less than a month ago students returned and town is trashed. Beer cans and cups in every yard, music blaring and drunk kids everywhere. I think we are too easy on students. If they want respect, they should respect us and our town.
Your "town" is a shithole that would be even more of a shithole without the kids. Yea, let 'em, leave you ...

to yourselves.

Now wouldn't that be funny.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

You'd all be like clowns crying after the circus leaves town.

Please. "Respect"? Morganhole is a town full of thieves and con artist and you want "respect"?

Why don't you all find a way to make an honest living instead of ripping of the kids and their parents?
WVU student parent

Princeton, WV

#10 Sep 12, 2011
@Local politics post- you are wrong about all assumptions, even my locaton. Respond with facts!

I have heard stories of tow companies sexually harassing WVU girls, basically implying sexual favors will result in a reduced cost of the tow. Cops have been told and they just laugh. City attorney Brent Burton always sides with the tow companies. They are not even required to give a receipt, and extort cash with the threat of more charges they can "arrange" with local corrupt officers.

Two years ago I walked out of the door of the new honors dorm, after moving a student in there, and across the street was a tenement that even McDowell County WV would have condemned. Rotting couches and chairs in the yard, great for rats, and apparently they had been there for a very long time. Obviously Morgantown officals had no concern. One student of mine told me of an apt he visited, down town, which had no windows (violation of fire code), rotting floor in bathroom, rodent manure and bug infested, and the land lord laughed whe questioned about meeting code, saying it was never enforced and report of violation would result in "security deposit" being revoked. The student did not rent this.
The Law

Charleston, WV

#11 Sep 12, 2011
WVU student parent wrote:
@Local politics post- you are wrong about all assumptions, even my locaton. Respond with facts!
I have heard stories of tow companies sexually harassing WVU girls, basically implying sexual favors will result in a reduced cost of the tow. Cops have been told and they just laugh. City attorney Brent Burton always sides with the tow companies. They are not even required to give a receipt, and extort cash with the threat of more charges they can "arrange" with local corrupt officers.
Two years ago I walked out of the door of the new honors dorm, after moving a student in there, and across the street was a tenement that even McDowell County WV would have condemned. Rotting couches and chairs in the yard, great for rats, and apparently they had been there for a very long time. Obviously Morgantown officals had no concern. One student of mine told me of an apt he visited, down town, which had no windows (violation of fire code), rotting floor in bathroom, rodent manure and bug infested, and the land lord laughed whe questioned about meeting code, saying it was never enforced and report of violation would result in "security deposit" being revoked. The student did not rent this.
Trust me on this, you don't want to waste time bantering with the townnies. They and their families have been making a living gouging the kids and their parents for decades. If you dare criticize Morganhole, they will call you every name in the book. They're vicious. I've seen it before. I came on here looking to see if anyone was complaining as well and you wouldn't believe how nasty they are.

The townies are a bunch of real creeps. They think Morganhole is normal because they don't know anything else or any other way to make a living. Going to elected officials is also a waste of time because they're all getting a cut as well - in one way or another.

Mon County and its officials are also well known for being vicious to those of us in the southern part of the state.

The city wouldn't be able to pay those fat salaries (the former chief of police is double dipping and making well over six figures) without the revenues from tickets and citations and all the other fees they make off students and their parents.

Morganhole is a real racket and most people who run it are thieves as far as I'm concerned.

I mean, they're real scum in that town. They've got everything cornered - even liquor sales. The landlords are in on it with the carpet cleaners, the city's in on it with the tow truck drivers, the cops are in on it with the city officials and on and on and on.

They know the kids won't do anything because it's the parents who pay and the parents can't do anything from 150 miles away and everybody knows it. Morganhole and the thieves who feed off the kids know the kids are transitory and won't stick around long enough to do anything.

The day your last kid leaves Morganhole is the day you don't care if you never see it again as long as you live.
Motowngal

Morgantown, WV

#12 Sep 13, 2011
I don't really think anyone has any reason to complain about the living conditions of some apartments considering nobody is FORCING you to live there. If you check out a house, find it not up to your standards, LOOK ELSEWHERE. I'm a 20 something female living in Morgantown (I'm from Raleigh County)and even I'm smart enough to know that. I know that my house should have windows, sturdy floors, no bugs or rodents, etc. It isn't rocket science!

Also, there ARE apartment complexs that are really, really nice. I'm currently living at The District and I have had no complaints so far. The rent is $475 a month, with all utilites included, which I find very reasonable. Whenever I lived in Beckley my rent was $600 PLUS utilities. We have access to a pool, spa, workout room, hot tub, tanning beds... This also isn't the only apartment complex in Morgantown offering these things for around the same price. Yes, if your student chooses to live in a house in South Park or Sunnyside they probably won't be living in something that you consider "nice". I'm not saying that all houses are dumps but I have seen a few.... However, a lot of them aren't as bad as you're all making them out to be.

Like I said before, it isn't rocket science. If the house looks like shit DON'T SIGN THE LEASE. Go somewhere else.
MoTown HoeDown

Montgomery, WV

#13 Sep 13, 2011
Motowngal wrote:
I don't really think anyone has any reason to complain about the living conditions of some apartments considering nobody is FORCING you to live there. If you check out a house, find it not up to your standards, LOOK ELSEWHERE. I'm a 20 something female living in Morgantown (I'm from Raleigh County)and even I'm smart enough to know that. I know that my house should have windows, sturdy floors, no bugs or rodents, etc. It isn't rocket science!
Also, there ARE apartment complexs that are really, really nice. I'm currently living at The District and I have had no complaints so far. The rent is $475 a month, with all utilites included, which I find very reasonable. Whenever I lived in Beckley my rent was $600 PLUS utilities. We have access to a pool, spa, workout room, hot tub, tanning beds... This also isn't the only apartment complex in Morgantown offering these things for around the same price. Yes, if your student chooses to live in a house in South Park or Sunnyside they probably won't be living in something that you consider "nice". I'm not saying that all houses are dumps but I have seen a few.... However, a lot of them aren't as bad as you're all making them out to be.
Like I said before, it isn't rocket science. If the house looks like shit DON'T SIGN THE LEASE. Go somewhere else.
I also lived in a very nice place in MoTown in my 20s and found it without help from my parents. I was also intelligent enough not to park in private lots and when I parked downtown I fed the meters for much more than needed usually. I'm from Boone County and knew all these things.
I think some of these parents are from out of state and live in million dollar homes then come to Morgantown and expect their children to be able to live in the same type of homes for dirt cheap.

“Providing What Most Lack”

Since: Jun 11

Montgomery, WV

#14 Sep 13, 2011
I lived in Morgantown during college in an off campus apartment after I toured several different places around town and found this one was the best deal to fit my needs. I toured buildings where there were weak floors, noise blaring in the middle of the day, and even places with bugs and mice but found an amazingly clean, safe place and loved it.
I also had the commonsense not to park in private lots, obtain the proper permits to park where needed and used the free parking places around town or metered spaces downtown. I used the PRT a lot because I did not find it necessary to drive everywhere and pay extra for parking directly outside of my classes. It's just not needed like people think it is. Get some exercise and walk a little.
It doesn't take much more than common sense to know whether or not a building is fit to live in or if you are parking in the correct locations.
Also parents and students that want to whine about the prices of living in Morgantown here is your wake up call. I did a little research on Pittsburgh and Columbus, Ohio, 2 other college towns, and it didn't take me long to figure out that Morgantown is very very reasonable.
If you feel Morgantown isn't good enough for your children, do not send them there. I'm sure somewhere you will find a school that is good enough for your children although Harvard is far more expensive and their extreme partying and drinking isn't as welcomed there. Sorry.
Motowngal

Morgantown, WV

#15 Sep 13, 2011
MoTown HoeDown wrote:
<quoted text>
I also lived in a very nice place in MoTown in my 20s and found it without help from my parents. I was also intelligent enough not to park in private lots and when I parked downtown I fed the meters for much more than needed usually. I'm from Boone County and knew all these things.
I think some of these parents are from out of state and live in million dollar homes then come to Morgantown and expect their children to be able to live in the same type of homes for dirt cheap.
I completely agree with you!!! I really don't understand how people with so much money can bitch about prices of things.. I work for a living, my parents don't pay for my stuff. If my car gets towed (and it has twice) I pay the price, bitch a little to myself and go about my day. It was no ones fault but my own for parking there. Lesson learned!! Even us country kids know these things!! Haha.
The Law

Charleston, WV

#16 Sep 13, 2011
Common Sense Tour wrote:
I lived in Morgantown during college in an off campus apartment after I toured several different places around town and found this one was the best deal to fit my needs. I toured buildings where there were weak floors, noise blaring in the middle of the day, and even places with bugs and mice but found an amazingly clean, safe place and loved it.
I also had the commonsense not to park in private lots, obtain the proper permits to park where needed and used the free parking places around town or metered spaces downtown. I used the PRT a lot because I did not find it necessary to drive everywhere and pay extra for parking directly outside of my classes. It's just not needed like people think it is. Get some exercise and walk a little.
It doesn't take much more than common sense to know whether or not a building is fit to live in or if you are parking in the correct locations.
Also parents and students that want to whine about the prices of living in Morgantown here is your wake up call. I did a little research on Pittsburgh and Columbus, Ohio, 2 other college towns, and it didn't take me long to figure out that Morgantown is very very reasonable.
If you feel Morgantown isn't good enough for your children, do not send them there. I'm sure somewhere you will find a school that is good enough for your children although Harvard is far more expensive and their extreme partying and drinking isn't as welcomed there. Sorry.
Wow. You're a dag expert. I used to live in California and my son is living there and going to school there now so don't tell me about the high cost of living elsewhere.

Morgantown is corrupt. That's the point. It's a racket. This is not about the cost for most parents, it's about the way the city scams the kids.

When my sister went to Morganhole in the 70s, it was a way bigger shithole than it is now and it was full of crooked landlords then too. But now it's way worse. My husband went to law school in Morganhole, half my friends did, both my children and all of my nieces and nephews. No one in this state needs to be lectured on Morganhole by YOU.

It's the corruption that is the problem.
Local Politics

Morgantown, WV

#17 Sep 13, 2011
Common Sense Tour wrote:
I lived in Morgantown during college in an off campus apartment after I toured several different places around town and found this one was the best deal to fit my needs. I toured buildings where there were weak floors, noise blaring in the middle of the day, and even places with bugs and mice but found an amazingly clean, safe place and loved it.
I also had the commonsense not to park in private lots, obtain the proper permits to park where needed and used the free parking places around town or metered spaces downtown. I used the PRT a lot because I did not find it necessary to drive everywhere and pay extra for parking directly outside of my classes. It's just not needed like people think it is. Get some exercise and walk a little.
It doesn't take much more than common sense to know whether or not a building is fit to live in or if you are parking in the correct locations.
Also parents and students that want to whine about the prices of living in Morgantown here is your wake up call. I did a little research on Pittsburgh and Columbus, Ohio, 2 other college towns, and it didn't take me long to figure out that Morgantown is very very reasonable.
If you feel Morgantown isn't good enough for your children, do not send them there. I'm sure somewhere you will find a school that is good enough for your children although Harvard is far more expensive and their extreme partying and drinking isn't as welcomed there. Sorry.
Just want you to know that I agree with you 100%. Interesting how common it is that every problem encountered is somehow someone elses fault. My experience has been If you pay the meter, park where you are supposed to and act like you have 1/2 a brain, you should get along fine anywhere.
Local Politics

Morgantown, WV

#18 Sep 13, 2011
The Law wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow. You're a dag expert. I used to live in California and my son is living there and going to school there now so don't tell me about the high cost of living elsewhere.
Morgantown is corrupt. That's the point. It's a racket. This is not about the cost for most parents, it's about the way the city scams the kids.
When my sister went to Morganhole in the 70s, it was a way bigger shithole than it is now and it was full of crooked landlords then too. But now it's way worse. My husband went to law school in Morganhole, half my friends did, both my children and all of my nieces and nephews. No one in this state needs to be lectured on Morganhole by YOU.
It's the corruption that is the problem.
Expand on it, just how corrupt are we? Don't hide behind what you heard, give us some facts. If your husband went to law school at WVU I am sure he can give you some advice on how the law really works.
Thinker

Morgantown, WV

#19 Sep 13, 2011
The Law wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow. You're a dag expert. I used to live in California and my son is living there and going to school there now so don't tell me about the high cost of living elsewhere.
Morgantown is corrupt. That's the point. It's a racket. This is not about the cost for most parents, it's about the way the city scams the kids.
When my sister went to Morganhole in the 70s, it was a way bigger shithole than it is now and it was full of crooked landlords then too. But now it's way worse. My husband went to law school in Morganhole, half my friends did, both my children and all of my nieces and nephews. No one in this state needs to be lectured on Morganhole by YOU.
It's the corruption that is the problem.
What is your evidence of this corruption? Get off your soap box and post some facts. For someone that complains about how the "locals" are quick to rip your throat out and call you names for talking bad about their town, you seem to be doing a pretty good job of that yourself (just on the other end of it)...all while others are posting their own experiences that are slightly more positive. The thing is, your description of Morgantown or "Shithole" or "Morganhole" as you call it, since you are obviously a mature individual, is not a description used by the majority, thats a fact. Believe what you want, your entitled to your opinion, but don't get upset about being "lectured" on Morgantown when you're doing the same exact thing, but simply not hearing what you want. You come off as a nasty, rude, conspiracy nut that was left with a bad taste in your mouth years ago, but now has to spend all your spare time debunking what others say simply because what you say is gospel. If you had a bad experience, then I'm sorry, but do everyone a favor and grow up and move on. No one needs to be lectured on Morgantown by YOU.
Local Politics

Morgantown, WV

#20 Sep 13, 2011
The Law wrote:
<quoted text>
Trust me on this, you don't want to waste time bantering with the townnies. They and their families have been making a living gouging the kids and their parents for decades. If you dare criticize Morganhole, they will call you every name in the book. They're vicious. I've seen it before. I came on here looking to see if anyone was complaining as well and you wouldn't believe how nasty they are.
The townies are a bunch of real creeps. They think Morganhole is normal because they don't know anything else or any other way to make a living. Going to elected officials is also a waste of time because they're all getting a cut as well - in one way or another.
Mon County and its officials are also well known for being vicious to those of us in the southern part of the state.
The city wouldn't be able to pay those fat salaries (the former chief of police is double dipping and making well over six figures) without the revenues from tickets and citations and all the other fees they make off students and their parents.
Morganhole is a real racket and most people who run it are thieves as far as I'm concerned.
I mean, they're real scum in that town. They've got everything cornered - even liquor sales. The landlords are in on it with the carpet cleaners, the city's in on it with the tow truck drivers, the cops are in on it with the city officials and on and on and on.
They know the kids won't do anything because it's the parents who pay and the parents can't do anything from 150 miles away and everybody knows it. Morganhole and the thieves who feed off the kids know the kids are transitory and won't stick around long enough to do anything.
The day your last kid leaves Morganhole is the day you don't care if you never see it again as long as you live.
I find your posts very interesting. If you are in Charleston then you are well aware it's the hub of corruption for the whole state. Enough said.

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