Rachel Shoaf and Shelia Eddy

Since: Jun 13

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#105 Jun 22, 2013
From Rachel's twitter pics...

http://twicsy.com/i/WoNQ4b
Oops

Baltimore, MD

#106 Jun 22, 2013
sickteenagers wrote:
From Rachel's twitter pics...
http://twicsy.com/i/WoNQ4b
Who is Laura Perry?
Oops

Baltimore, MD

#107 Jun 23, 2013
Story about Skylar's parents.

http://www.wdtv.com/wdtv.cfm...
Denver

United States

#108 Jun 25, 2013
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Denver

Castle Rock, CO

#110 Jun 27, 2013
http://t.radaronline.com/radaronline/ #!/entry/teen-skylar-neese-bru tally-murdered-by-her-two-clos est-friends,51ccce1dda27f5d9d0 ebd53c

It's out.
BSs

Seattle, WA

#111 Jun 27, 2013
idiots in the article mixed up Rachel and Skylar, awful journalism, said Skylar had long red hair. Ugh.
Denver

Castle Rock, CO

#112 Jun 28, 2013
BSs wrote:
idiots in the article mixed up Rachel and Skylar, awful journalism, said Skylar had long red hair. Ugh.
They took their info from Newsball lol
S133py Loco

United States

#113 Jun 30, 2013
That's horrible man. We need some better journaliztz out there eh. Too many chavalas comin hard but not livin life the way they should eh. Whether its murder or jpurnalizm they is all guilty ax charged homez. I'm out.
Jane

United States

#114 Jul 3, 2013
S133py Loco wrote:
That's horrible man. We need some better journaliztz out there eh. Too many chavalas comin hard but not livin life the way they should eh. Whether its murder or jpurnalizm they is all guilty ax charged homez. I'm out.
What in the hell are you saying?
Dangelo51

Wheeling, WV

#115 Jul 3, 2013
I read an article in Psychology Today, written by an ex-FBI specialist in behavior and deception. Although the article was about Casey Anthony, I couldn't help but draw parallels between her and Rachel and Shelia. After reading Twitter posts from both of these girls, as well as those of some of their friends and relatives, along with other info that has recently been made public, the following passages concerning intra-species predators really hit home:
"We struggle to understand why an anti-social personality would do the things they do." "... intra-species predators do what they do because they want to..."
",,,predators have a tendency to make us feel queasy, uncomfortable, anxious, or even irritated..." "...we have the same reaction to dangerous reptiles for an evolutionary reason: our safety..."
"...After we witnessed ... lying, obfuscating, intentionally and repeatedly leading investigators astray as to the whereabouts of ..., our stomachs turn in revulsion because we are witnessing, first hand, someone who appears to have all these features:
1. No remorse or conscience - they don't feel bad about what they do, only getting caught
2. Glibness/superficial charm - when they want to, and it benefits them, they act as they need to - they are chameleon like & superficially interesting
3. Aggressively narcissistic - everything has to be their way, if you don't agree with them, you are a hindrance and an obstacle
4. They believe themselves above the law which for them are formalities to bend or break
5. Grandiose sense of self-worth - they over value themselves and their needs and devalue the needs or worth of others.
6. They are pathological liars; lying even when they don't have to and doing so with great facility
7. Cunning/manipulative - extremely versatile from a very early age
8. Lack of guilt - a key feature of psychopathy. While others are being destroyed physically or emotionally, they don't feel a thing
9. Emotionally shallow - their emotions are lacking or blunted, or at times inappropriate
10. Callous/lack of empathy - don't really care about the feeling of others only themselves
11. Failure to accept responsibility for own actions - always someone else's fault never their own.
14. Poor behavioral control - irresponsible behavior is a large factor as is putting others in danger
16. Lack of realistic, long-term goals - they live for the moment without planning for the future
17. Impulsiveness - doing what they want when they want as they want
18. Criminal versatility - the ability to commit crimes and lie with ease
19. Criminal behavior - they routinely steal, cheat, lie, or fail to comply with laws
20. Use people - people are to be used or manipulated, not cared for..."
Top all of this off with parents who seem to have made it their life's mission to clean up every mess the little darlings get themselves into, it isn't difficult to see how something like this could happen.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#116 Jul 3, 2013
Wow, very interesting, Dangelo51. Thank you for sharing! I had never heard the term intra-species predator. I find it amazing when these kinds of people come together. I can't fathom how the conversation even started about what they were going to do to Skylar. This part is interesting:'...if you don't agree with them, you are a hindrance and an obstacle.'

Was it this article?

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatche...
Destroyed Dreams

New Kensington, PA

#117 Jul 3, 2013
While I do not know eddy or her family, so many (vast majority) of these traits fit shoaf to a tee. Shoaf's mother also has most of these traits, don't think that it is genetic but possibly the home environment that an individual lives in. Am hopeful that the psychological evaluation that is done on shoaf is released to the public.
Dangelo51 wrote:
I read an article in Psychology Today, written by an ex-FBI specialist in behavior and deception. Although the article was about Casey Anthony, I couldn't help but draw parallels between her and Rachel and Shelia. After reading Twitter posts from both of these girls, as well as those of some of their friends and relatives, along with other info that has recently been made public, the following passages concerning intra-species predators really hit home:
"We struggle to understand why an anti-social personality would do the things they do." "... intra-species predators do what they do because they want to..."
",,,predators have a tendency to make us feel queasy, uncomfortable, anxious, or even irritated..." "...we have the same reaction to dangerous reptiles for an evolutionary reason: our safety..."
"...After we witnessed ... lying, obfuscating, intentionally and repeatedly leading investigators astray as to the whereabouts of ..., our stomachs turn in revulsion because we are witnessing, first hand, someone who appears to have all these features:
1. No remorse or conscience - they don't feel bad about what they do, only getting caught
2. Glibness/superficial charm - when they want to, and it benefits them, they act as they need to - they are chameleon like & superficially interesting
3. Aggressively narcissistic - everything has to be their way, if you don't agree with them, you are a hindrance and an obstacle
4. They believe themselves above the law which for them are formalities to bend or break
5. Grandiose sense of self-worth - they over value themselves and their needs and devalue the needs or worth of others.
6. They are pathological liars; lying even when they don't have to and doing so with great facility
7. Cunning/manipulative - extremely versatile from a very early age
8. Lack of guilt - a key feature of psychopathy. While others are being destroyed physically or emotionally, they don't feel a thing
9. Emotionally shallow - their emotions are lacking or blunted, or at times inappropriate
10. Callous/lack of empathy - don't really care about the feeling of others only themselves
11. Failure to accept responsibility for own actions - always someone else's fault never their own.
14. Poor behavioral control - irresponsible behavior is a large factor as is putting others in danger
16. Lack of realistic, long-term goals - they live for the moment without planning for the future
17. Impulsiveness - doing what they want when they want as they want
18. Criminal versatility - the ability to commit crimes and lie with ease
19. Criminal behavior - they routinely steal, cheat, lie, or fail to comply with laws
20. Use people - people are to be used or manipulated, not cared for..."
Top all of this off with parents who seem to have made it their life's mission to clean up every mess the little darlings get themselves into, it isn't difficult to see how something like this could happen.
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Dangelo51

Wheeling, WV

#119 Jul 3, 2013
Hillbilly_Chick wrote:
Wow, very interesting, Dangelo51. Thank you for sharing! I had never heard the term intra-species predator. I find it amazing when these kinds of people come together. I can't fathom how the conversation even started about what they were going to do to Skylar. This part is interesting:'...if you don't agree with them, you are a hindrance and an obstacle.'
Was it this article?
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/spycatche...
Yes, that's the article.

While the first 2/3 of the article is about how a jury can let someone like Casey Anthony go free, the last portion of the article about psychopathy seems to go hand in hand with this case. Especially the part where he talks about our attempt to understand the motive of an anti-social personality. In this case, 2 or more of these personalities in a relatively small community found each other and that is scary as hell. You read the Twitter posts of Rachel and Shelia and their family/friends and it is glaringly obvious that they have no remorse--the only thing they're upset about is the fact that they got caught.
Clover

United States

#120 Jul 3, 2013
Where there other "friends" involved in this? Did the parents help cover for the girls?

Anyone care to speculate on a motive for these teens to stab their best friend to death?(besides the lesbian love-triangle, because I'm not buying it.)
Clover

United States

#121 Jul 3, 2013
I meant 'were' not 'where'.
Dangelo 52

Fairmont, WV

#122 Jul 4, 2013
Clover wrote:
Where there other "friends" involved in this? Did the parents help cover for the girls?
Anyone care to speculate on a motive for these teens to stab their best friend to death?(besides the lesbian love-triangle, because I'm not buying it.)
It seems to me that we're just chasing our tails if we get bogged down on the question,'Why did they do it'. I've been asking the same question and then I read the following passage from the above referenced article in Psychology Today:

"... it is hard for us to deal with psychopathy. We as a society have difficulty absorbing their capacity to be, as Robert Hare says, "intra-species predators" lacking remorse or a conscience (see Robert Hare's, "Without Conscience"). We struggle to understand why an anti-social personality would do the things they do. We try to understand them using normal/moral brains not realizing that they, by their very nature, are using a very abnormal/amoral brains and that is where many get derailed.

Intra-species predators do what they do because they want to..."

I'm afraid that when all is said and done, that is going to be the motive for this murder: they did it because they wanted to.

Since: Jun 13

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#123 Jul 5, 2013
Where are the hardcore updates on these two, evil shitholes? Where are they being housed? And where are the mugshots and images of them being arrested? Where is the scoop? Nobody wants to read endless legal banter and nonsense about the mental state of psychopaths. Give us the hardline information! Also, where is the damn exclusive interview with Dylan Conaway?

Since: Jun 13

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#124 Jul 5, 2013
Why is Trayvon Martin's death more significant than Skylar Neese? Get on this, journalists in WV!
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Since: Jul 13

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#127 Jul 5, 2013
Not sure why my posts have been deleted - all I've asked is for the names of Sheila's parents.

Since: Mar 13

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#128 Jul 5, 2013
dee_calif wrote:
Not sure why my posts have been deleted - all I've asked is for the names of Sheila's parents.
It wasn't deleted. This is the wrong thread. Your question is here:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/morgantown-wv...

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