We have met the enemy and he is ...

We have met the enemy and he is ...

There are 29 comments on the The Morning Call story from Aug 19, 2008, titled We have met the enemy and he is .... In it, The Morning Call reports that:

So, Mack HQ is leaving the Lehigh Valley ... and I say, don't blame local politicians, blame ourselves.

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Adam Smith

Northbrook, IL

#1 Aug 19, 2008
In other words, the free markets decided who will prosper and who will fail.
Lower Mac Resident

Allentown, PA

#2 Aug 19, 2008
You're right Adam, but the article would have us believe its our evil use of fossil fuels...the horror!
Bull

Kulpsville, PA

#3 Aug 19, 2008
"Volvo has brought in higher engineering standards" ?????

You've got to be kidding, right?

Chris, maybe you should talk to ANYONE in the Mack Engineering group before you make such a rediculous statement.
Or, just explain your take on why Mack's market share, which WAS way above Volvo's, began its slow decline shortly after Volvo FORCED its "Higher Engineering Standards" on Mack.
Sure

Macungie, PA

#4 Aug 19, 2008
Bull wrote:
"Volvo has brought in higher engineering standards" ?????
You've got to be kidding, right?
Chris, maybe you should talk to ANYONE in the Mack Engineering group before you make such a rediculous statement.
Or, just explain your take on why Mack's market share, which WAS way above Volvo's, began its slow decline shortly after Volvo FORCED its "Higher Engineering Standards" on Mack.
Because Volvo adopted Mack's practices and shifted Market share from Mack to Volvo.
Republicrat

Philadelphia, PA

#5 Aug 19, 2008
**Sigh**
PointIs

Allentown, PA

#6 Aug 19, 2008
Point #1- Invent a better mouse trap and the world will beat down your door.

Point #2- Ship production out to a 3rd world country who has cheap labor and show them how to make it!

IS NOT THE KEY TO SUCCESS!
Bull

Kulpsville, PA

#7 Aug 19, 2008
Sure wrote:
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Because Volvo adopted Mack's practices and shifted Market share from Mack to Volvo.
NO, Mack was FORCED to adopt Volvo's practices.
Weird

United States

#8 Aug 19, 2008
George Bush
Bull

Kulpsville, PA

#9 Aug 19, 2008
snowman Allentown PA

Nazareth, PA

#10 Aug 19, 2008
If Volvo bought Mack, then Mack was not forced to Volvo's practices. But labor and management at Mack's and Bethlehem Steel refused to look beyond their noses and improve the manufacturing practices spelled the death knell. It also was the ruination of our fabric industry, so labor and manufacturers work together or perish.
cjc

Mechanicsburg, PA

#11 Aug 19, 2008
Weird wrote:
George Bush
Did you see the dates!!!!! 1980's and 1990"S, Volvo learned from us we didn't learn from them-they have the better mouse trap! You're going to have to get another answer soon and while we're so focused with envy/hate our jobs and money are floating out of the country.
Weird

United States

#12 Aug 19, 2008
cjc wrote:
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Did you see the dates!!!!! 1980's and 1990"S, Volvo learned from us we didn't learn from them-they have the better mouse trap! You're going to have to get another answer soon and while we're so focused with envy/hate our jobs and money are floating out of the country.
No, I was repsonding to the headline - We have met the enemy and he is ...
Edward

York, PA

#13 Aug 19, 2008
It was Mack that had the new fuel savings and Volvo bought them to meet the dead line by the Fed. Govt. MPG / EPA
I know because I saw it happen. Volvo had droped the ball and had no engine ready.
Chris Casey

Reading, PA

#14 Aug 19, 2008
Lower Mac Resident,The Fossil Fuels are only part of the equation. Thank you for your comment, but we do live in an economy that is oil driven, that can't be disputed.
Nowhere do I assail fossil fuels, I only point out that market forces are naturally at work.(Thank you, Adam Smith)
Several forces are pressuring Mack. Labor costs are an obvious one, but competition in the market place is primarily the other.

We've all been living in the happy world of cheap oil, and that world is ending. Now we are seeing the consequences. The question now isn't, "Who is at fault?" but "What are we going to do moving forward?"
Our political leaders gave us the consumer driven economy, exactly what we wanted. Now we are upset, and blame them that it is struggling.

Snowman has it right. We must all work together to find the solutions.
Lower Mac Resident

Allentown, PA

#15 Aug 19, 2008
Chris, guess I misunderstood you. I'm just tired of everyone moaning about our oil centric economy. It is what it is and the free market will adjust it accordingly as market forces work.
I apologize for my "shot" at you.
Bull

Kulpsville, PA

#16 Aug 19, 2008
snowman Allentown PA wrote:
If Volvo bought Mack, then Mack was not forced to Volvo's practices. But labor and management at Mack's and Bethlehem Steel refused to look beyond their noses and improve the manufacturing practices spelled the death knell. It also was the ruination of our fabric industry, so labor and manufacturers work together or perish.
Mack was at the TOP in market share when Volvo bought them. Volvo was at the BOTTOM. Now, Mack's down there with them because Volvo would not let Mack be the customer oriented company that earned them their reputation.
cjc

Mechanicsburg, PA

#17 Aug 19, 2008
Weird wrote:
<quoted text>No, I was repsonding to the headline - We have met the enemy and he is ...
You still don't get it do you! He just might not be the "be all and end all "problem, start looking around.
Weird

United States

#18 Aug 19, 2008
cjc wrote:
<quoted text>You still don't get it do you! He just might not be the "be all and end all "problem, start looking around.
I get it sparky, calm down.
craig

Farmington, MI

#19 Aug 19, 2008
The Europeans, Middle easterners and asians are buying up america piece by piece. What's left we're moving to third world nations. We as americans created this mess and no president that you vote for can fix it. It's about time we stop whining about these problems and pull together as americans and fix them. America is still the greatest nation on the earth but it will not stay that way much longer if we do not make the changes that will ensure the survival of our way of life. To hell with the Europeans, Mexicans, Chinese Ect. America is for Americans. We need to recover our industrial base solidify the economy and show the rest of the world that this is still the most powerful nation on the face of the earth. United we stood divided we are starting to fall.
Ruth Bader

Burnet, TX

#20 Aug 19, 2008
craig wrote:
America is still the greatest nation on the earth but...
According to whom? Americans? Hint: those who want to come here do so for the money, i.e. to take your jobs. Your employers like this because it saves them money and brings down the wages.

America is the most arrogant nation on earth, and probably the most violent. Humble yourself, man.

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