District Cuts 15 Teaching Jobs - Regi...

District Cuts 15 Teaching Jobs - Regional News - Berks Story - WFMZ...

There are 34 comments on the WFMZ story from Jun 15, 2010, titled District Cuts 15 Teaching Jobs - Regional News - Berks Story - WFMZ.... In it, WFMZ reports that:

CAERNARVON TWP., Pa. -- Fifteen fewer teachers will be on the job when classes resume in one local school district later this year.

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Rick

Sellersville, PA

#1 Jun 15, 2010
as long as the sports programs are kept in tact.
mom of 4

Emmaus, PA

#2 Jun 15, 2010
My concern is that there will now not be enough teachers to cover the growing kindergarten classes, and hoping there are no cuts to the special education services, or speech therapy.
MORE CUTS

Scranton, PA

#3 Jun 15, 2010
I HOPE MORE DISTRICTS FOLLOW WE NEED TO CLEAN UP THE OVER SPENDING THAT MANY OF THESE SCHOOLS HAVE DONE FOR MANY YEARS. THAY HAVE OVER BURDEN THE TAX PAYOR ENOUGH!!
John

Catasauqua, PA

#4 Jun 15, 2010
MORE CUTS wrote:
I HOPE MORE DISTRICTS FOLLOW WE NEED TO CLEAN UP THE OVER SPENDING THAT MANY OF THESE SCHOOLS HAVE DONE FOR MANY YEARS. THAY HAVE OVER BURDEN THE TAX PAYOR ENOUGH!!
You can thnk the POLITICIANS who gave us NCLB- schools hired to address one thing and now we have this. Teachers did not give us NCLB- POLITICIANS did.
here here

Reading, PA

#5 Jun 15, 2010
Rick wrote:
as long as the sports programs are kept in tact.
Yes, we must have our priorities kept intact. Football and baseball will serve the student body much more completely than any academic pursuit.
John

Catasauqua, PA

#6 Jun 15, 2010
here here wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, we must have our priorities kept intact. Football and baseball will serve the student body much more completely than any academic pursuit.
How about the bnand and debate along with middle school alternbate cheerleading development team.
John

Catasauqua, PA

#7 Jun 15, 2010
here here wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, we must have our priorities kept intact. Football and baseball will serve the student body much more completely than any academic pursuit.
This stuff is not measured on the PSSA. So who cares.
alex

Allentown, PA

#8 Jun 15, 2010
Stop paying these superintendents such high wages.
There are alot of teachers out their that should be getting paid more than they are.
spartan ideas

Allentown, PA

#9 Jun 15, 2010
maybe we should place those who are weak and will cost the districts more out in the elements for nature to take its course, this will save money on special education. its a valid thought.
John

Catasauqua, PA

#10 Jun 16, 2010
spartan ideas wrote:
maybe we should place those who are weak and will cost the districts more out in the elements for nature to take its course, this will save money on special education. its a valid thought.
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Drew

Whitehall, PA

#11 Jun 16, 2010
alex wrote:
Stop paying these superintendents such high wages.
There are alot of teachers out their that should be getting paid more than they are.
Superintendent salaries are considered high but as a portion of the entire school budget it is tiny. Collectively teacher salaries dwarf the salary of the superintendent.
bikerchick

Morgantown, PA

#12 Jun 17, 2010
They hired an assistant superintendent? Why? when money is so short. Superintendent is making big bucks and they can't do the job alone?
John

Catasauqua, PA

#13 Jun 17, 2010
bikerchick wrote:
They hired an assistant superintendent? Why? when money is so short. Superintendent is making big bucks and they can't do the job alone?
Because there is a need. Nine board members approve the position not the Supt. Supt. will request, provide a detailed reason for the request- probably to monitor or rewrite curriculum to match the PSSA brought on by the POLITICIANS- before the board would even consider this. If the Supt. can do it alone, then he would. You just do not understand the process.

Why does any place hire? Because there is a need. i am sure you are thinking this is a friend of a board members ister's brother-in-law.
bikerchick

Morgantown, PA

#14 Jun 20, 2010
No I don't understand the process that goes on in our school systems. There is no other business that gives employees lifetime positions, e.g. tenure, less working days than corporate world and huge pensions when they retire and where employees after all those perk still complain they are not paid enough.....

What I do understand is that the education system is filled with nepotism and politics when it comes to staffing the administrative positions, e.g. supt. and principals and vice principals and is kept so hush hush but everyone knows it. It's who you know not what you know to get one of these high paying positions.
Sassy

United States

#15 Jun 20, 2010
Here we go again, teacher cuts.

Teachers should be the last place to make cuts unless they are inefficient.

USA will soon be the dumbest country, alot of other countries are passing us.
John

Catasauqua, PA

#16 Jun 20, 2010
bikerchick wrote:
No I don't understand the process that goes on in our school systems. There is no other business that gives employees lifetime positions, e.g. tenure, less working days than corporate world and huge pensions when they retire and where employees after all those perk still complain they are not paid enough.....
What I do understand is that the education system is filled with nepotism and politics when it comes to staffing the administrative positions, e.g. supt. and principals and vice principals and is kept so hush hush but everyone knows it. It's who you know not what you know to get one of these high paying positions.
First of all, check the history of why tenure was put in place. Think about it- why do teachers have tenure. Why is it called the tenure LAWS. There is a reason why this was put into law. Go check it out. As far as the pensions are concerned, I will explain these. When teachers made 5000 a year and had no tenure, a weak PSEA, and to borror something you also said in your last post (nepotism). to keep teachers from leaving, this was one of the few "perks" teachers got. Well, as time moves on and salaries got higher, the cost to fund a pension got higher and higher. Just so your know, pensions began in the year 1917, close to 100 years ago. The state and school districts have been funding this since 1917. The retirement system did not start five years ago. Now to address the nepotism part. Before tenure, let's add in what you said-nepostism-. let's say I was a third grade teacher but a board member had a daughter who wanted to teach third grade and just graduated from college. Well, without tenure, goodbye John and welcome the new third grade teacher. I guess to borrow a term from you, nepotism could work on both sides. However, in today's education world, headhunters are hired to find legitimate candidates for a Supt. positon. A board establishes committees of teachers, parents, and community to be active participants in the hiring process. The best candidate surfaces and is elected to the postion. I guess there are isolated cases where this does not happen but in many situations, the board is familiar with the perforamnce of the asst superintendent and he may then be the leading candidate for the position. But that decision is made by a majority of the board.

Keep this in mind, no one is hired without 5 of the 9 board members voting yes. This also goes for principals and asst. principlas. I know of an asst principal that had three interviews to get the job.

As far as the working days are concerned, that is established by law and there is nothing else that can be done unless the law is changed. I think we have been going to school for 100 years from SEpt. to June. Will it ever change- I doubt it, so the argument is useless because the state says students will get 180 days. If a workplace says it is working a five day week and not seven- guess what- you are working 52 times 5- you are working at the most 260 days minus vacation time. So you only work 65% of the year. When the district doesn't schedule classes beyond the 180 days, school is closed.
bikerchick

Morgantown, PA

#17 Jun 21, 2010
Bottom line - there are other countries that are surpassing us in education. Why? Laws or not, we are doing something wrong and it's about time that changes!

I hear a lot of arguments from people in PA that say "we've always done it that way".....which says to me we are not going to change.

Change is not always bad, sometimes it's very good and are present education system needs a lot of changes.
John

Catasauqua, PA

#18 Jun 21, 2010
bikerchick wrote:
Bottom line - there are other countries that are surpassing us in education. Why? Laws or not, we are doing something wrong and it's about time that changes!
I hear a lot of arguments from people in PA that say "we've always done it that way".....which says to me we are not going to change.
Change is not always bad, sometimes it's very good and are present education system needs a lot of changes.
What changes would you suggest? I bet one change would be that each teacher take a $3000 pay cut. Then they should increase their co-pay on healthcare. Tenure should be eliminated and the pension system should end. I bet those would be your changes. And if you disagree, then tell me a few chnges you want to make. Since I was a teacher for 37 years, I will tell you but you won't believe me that change in education is nothing new. We changed approaches, techniques and strategies all the time. We implemented new programs and taught math and reading with many different programs and methodolgies. We used programs that had sections that provided activities for the gifted and slow learners. We followed the educational research on what works and scheduled in-service programs that trained teachers using new approaches. Do you realize the numnber of educational books and periodicals that are out there that stresses change. Do you realize all the changes that was brought about by the PSSA. You are talking about curriculum change to address the objectives and standards established by the PSSA. Look I could go on forever on this topic of change.

I have heard that about other countries surpassing us for 20 years. Where would you rather be- China, Korea, Japan. Why is it that all the graduate of Am. education go onto running the businesses of this country and making it still the greatest country in the world unless you think differently.

You hear "a lot of people say" this and that. Well I am telling you what it is like because I experienced it. If your source is Glenn Beck- you do realize he is one-sided- his side and no one else's side.
bikerchick24

Morgantown, PA

#19 Jun 22, 2010
No on the teacher pay cut. And what is wrong with increasing their co pay on health care. Corporate America does that and even Medicare increases the co pay periodically so why should teachers be any different?(hmmm union demands?)

Yes tenure should be eliminated. If you know there is a slim chance you will be fired why bother to get better at your job. Human nature takes over and you get too comfortable. Not good for the kids.

Don't use the argument would I rather live in China, Korea, Japan....that is so old. Of course I would rather be here for the freedom and what this country offers. My saying that other countries may have better standards on their education does not make me un-American. And look again at some of our Corporations....many have foreign educated as CEO's and that is not a bad thing....brings diversity and new thinking.

And Glenn Beck - why did you bring him into the picture. That guy has a screw loose...LOL

And finally, I kind of knew you were a school teacher because you got so defensive.

I'm done on this subject too because it will go on and on and neither one of us will convince the other as to who's right. That is America! Freedom to express ourselves!

One final word - change is good!!!(-:
Sorry - had to get that last jab in...(-:
John

Catasauqua, PA

#20 Jun 22, 2010
Bikerchick:

You wrote:

One final word - change is good!!!(-:
Sorry - had to get that last jab in...(-:

I do not know what you meant by this. I told you we changed constantly in education.

By the way, I am not trying to change your mind as to who is right or wrong. But a few posts back you talked about pensions, tenure, nepotism, less working days????? I do not wish to change your mind but only to let you know that change has happened in response to what you "heard other people say". If someone says they heard that all bikers drive too fast and need to wear a helmet, well you may say hey that is not the whole story.

Well, to you, I say what you posted and "heard people say" is not accurate just as the statement about bikers may not be accurate.

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