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Aunty

Detroit, MI

#1 Jul 3, 2010
I didn't have an entry in the pageants this or any other year, but I have heard about 'fixes' in them over the years. And now I have suspicions myself. According to the entry form for 2-7 year old girls: "Casual Dress Only!(Short sets, Sundress, etc.) Make-up and pageant dress will be disqualified from judging." But when the overall winner for 4&5 year old was announced (and in Beechtree News), I was quite suprised at the little girl who was the overall winner... complete with pageant dress & makeup. Now I understand the complaints. Sad that parents put kids in the middle of this.
Mtown Resident

Bowling Green, KY

#2 Jul 4, 2010
Yea, I've always heard the same thing, that's why I never put my child in the pageants. I've noticed that the same child will win or place year after year for whatever category they are in and if they have siblings, same for them. You could probably give me the names of the parents of each child entered and I could probably tell you who's going to win or place before it ever happens.
Aunty

Detroit, MI

#3 Jul 4, 2010
I don't know the names or people. I just noticed that the "makeup & dress rules weren't followed & it was a 'winner' that didn't.
Mtown Resident

Bowling Green, KY

#4 Jul 4, 2010
Go back to Beechtreenews.com . Miss Butler County isn't even from Butler County. Looks like that should be a requirement.
masa

Lima, OH

#5 Jul 4, 2010
They are buying off the judges and you know I know I know what is going on.
seriously

Canton, OH

#6 Jul 4, 2010
I'm actually a judge around KY in the county fairs. The judges are not bought off and make a choice based on what they feel/see. I have never once in all my years of judging been offered a "payoff". That is ridiculous. I have known several of those who have judged in Butler and they have not either. Its a very tough choice for them too, so please understand that they are making a decision based on a few moments...so if the kid cries or acts up...it doesn't matter how cute they are...they are out.

Butler County made the decision to open up the pageant to "out of towners" as do most of the counties. They are able to get more entries this way - thus more entry MONEY. It has been that way for several years now, but Butler used to have it closed off to the county only.
John

Lima, OH

#7 Jul 5, 2010
W;hat ever you say.
Nother Spectator

United States

#8 Jul 5, 2010
That still does not answer the original point of this topic!!! Clearly the 'winner' of the 4/5 yolds was wearing a pageant dress AND makeup. The two things that are CLEARLY prohibited in the rules. Some teriible judges if they can't follow the ONLY 2 rules on the entry form.

Wonder why the festival makes less each year and the chamber loses members? This is probably one of many reasons. I kmow,'the chamber doesnt pick the winners'. No, but it is done in their name, the get the bucks, so it is on them.
two cents

Canton, OH

#9 Jul 5, 2010
butler has made the mistake of just picking random people in the past to judge. you have to be sure to pick people who have a lot of experience in the system or these things happen. you're right its on them if they didn't pick actual judges. or the case may even be that they didn't share the guidelines with the judges...that's happened before too...
my opinion

United States

#10 Jul 6, 2010
I have heard that several of the surrounding counties have closed their pageants now. My daughter was going to go to some surrounding counties to get some experience before the Butler Co. pageant and lo and behold, the majority were closed. Ohio, Muhlenberg, Edmonson and a couple others are closed. I think it's a sad thing that more Butler Co girls entered this year then ever before and only 3 out of the 10 finalists were from here. I think everyone needs to voice their opinions to the Chamber president or the Catfish committee and let them know we want ours closed for next year. It doesn't matter if we make a few more bucks by opening them, we want our girls to have a fair chance. These girls that go from county to county are semi-professional. How fair is that to the Butler co girls? They can't compete against that.
Bc native

United States

#11 Jul 6, 2010
Hell, they can't follow their own rules to begin with, why would they hold to that????
Moe

Lima, OH

#12 Jul 6, 2010
Pool your money and next year we can get a dog turd elected Ms. Catfish.
Bc native

United States

#13 Jul 6, 2010
Or Mrs. Don Baker. A penny should be all it's worth.
Please

Lewisburg, KY

#14 Jul 6, 2010
Fair chance? It is a fair chance. If they plan on going to state then they should be able to beat other outside county girls ( if they have what it takes) if ur child didn't win against other competetors then what makes u think they are good enough for state? It shouldn't matter who they go against, if they are pretty & good enough then it shouldn't matter who they compete against! What isn't fair is that ur girls (butler co girls) are going to other counties and u think that's ok, but u want BC closed? Good grief, quit being upset that your daughters didn't win - BC or not!
Aunty

Toledo, OH

#15 Jul 6, 2010
Please- Please, this post was/is about the POSTED rules not being followed. I don't care if they allow snuffelupagusses from Ohio county in it, as long as that is the rule. It is the Chambers gig, whatever rules they want to make I am okay with... WHEN they follow them. Refer back to original post.
two cents

Canton, OH

#16 Jul 6, 2010
what i think is weird is that they didn't do the swimsuit. they will have to do that at state and will have a rude awakening....that was a poor move in my opinion. i think they should all be open...period. then you will get the best of the best at state. butler has never won at state...ever....
No to swuimsuits

Toledo, OH

#17 Jul 6, 2010
I don't think little children should be parading around in swimsuits!!! Ever see that "toddler & tiera" show??? A perverts dream!!! Sick people watch that stuff! Why put your kid in front of them???
who knows

Bowling Green, KY

#18 Jul 6, 2010
little children dont do swimsuit just 16-21yrs of age.and if you cant come out in a hing suit at a fair pageant what makes them think they can at state.all butler county wanted was more money that what it boild down too!!!
rules need to be followed

Harvest, AL

#19 Jul 6, 2010
I agree, it was not just the winner of the one group that had on makeup an a pagent dress. Other contistants was wearing them too. And I did not see one person diqualified from the pagent.What is the use in makeing rules if they are not gonna go by them. So when a parent puts their kid in a shorts an shirt outfit (like suggested) on the form, and their child is one out of the few that is actually wearing that, does that look bad on that child. If so it is noones fault but the ones that make the rules for putting it in there to start with. So I don't think it looks bad on the parent either because they actually followed the rules.
And I also agree with the person that said you can probably tell who will win, if someone listed off all the kids parents names.
hmmm

Auburn, KY

#20 Jul 8, 2010
The child that won the 4-5 y/o division is NOT wearing a pageant dress...it's PLAID! And she isn't wearing make-up either ???

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