Gay marriage is on its way, folks.
joybell

Holly Springs, NC

#21 Aug 8, 2014
SoIncrediblyGay wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ politics/courts_law/appeals-co urt-upholds-decision-overturni ng-virginias-same-sex-marriage -ban/2014/07/28/02764842-167e- 11e4-85b6-c1451e622637_story.h tml
Virginia just overturned the constitutional ban on same sex marriage, this has been happening all over the country, and I can assure you it will happen here. Your little amendment vote didn't work in the long run, suckers.
I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of these backward redneck idiots when gay marriage becomes legal in this state.
Enjoy the ignorance while it lasts.
Read your bible if you own one.The book of Romans speaks very clearly about how wrong and disgusting gay lifestyle is.So maybe you are the ignorant one and not us.We will pray for you.
Thisguy

Mooresville, NC

#22 Aug 8, 2014
DOOMED wrote:
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And my rights as an individual have been violated by the homosexual agenda.
I cannot run a business according to my beliefs.
Nor should you be able to. Businesses are not people. Sorry, you don't get to employ people and assert your beliefs over them in the name of personal freedom. If you don't want to market ideas to certain cultures, then don't. But you don't get to pick and choose how your employees are going to live their lives.

Facist.
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#23 Aug 8, 2014
DOOMED wrote:
<quoted text>
As stated people like (Marriage Equality) will call good evil and evil good. They have lost the ability to discern right from wrong and been turned over to a reprobate mind.
Romans 1:28
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind to do those things which are not fitting,
What is the basis of law that governs the United States? Is it the US Constituion or the Bible? The US Constitution, specifically the 14th Amendment.The USA is a democratic republic and NOT a theocracy governed by any religious doctrine. You do understand that much, don't you?
DOOMED

Hickory, NC

#24 Aug 8, 2014
Thisguy wrote:
<quoted text>
Nor should you be able to. Businesses are not people. Sorry, you don't get to employ people and assert your beliefs over them in the name of personal freedom. If you don't want to market ideas to certain cultures, then don't. But you don't get to pick and choose how your employees are going to live their lives.
Facist.
No I pick the employees via Job Interviews and if I don't like you. I don't hire you!
And I was not talking about employees. I was talking about customers.

It used to be a business could refuse service to anyone. Now if a baker refuses to make a cake for a gay wedding they are forced out of business. If a wedding photographer refuses to take pictures at a gay wedding they are forced out of business. If a store chooses to close in Myrtle Beach during black biker week they are put out of business.
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#25 Aug 8, 2014
DOOMED wrote:
<quoted text>
No I pick the employees via Job Interviews and if I don't like you. I don't hire you!
And I was not talking about employees. I was talking about customers.
It used to be a business could refuse service to anyone. Now if a baker refuses to make a cake for a gay wedding they are forced out of business. If a wedding photographer refuses to take pictures at a gay wedding they are forced out of business. If a store chooses to close in Myrtle Beach during black biker week they are put out of business.
It is the law. Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Google it. You are a law abiding citizen, aren't you? The intent is to end discrimination.
Thisguy

Mooresville, NC

#26 Aug 8, 2014
DOOMED wrote:
<quoted text>
If a wedding photographer refuses to take pictures at a gay wedding they are forced out of business. If a store chooses to close in Myrtle Beach during black biker week they are put out of business.
And that's exactly as it should be. That's called discrimination. You don't get to refuse service to someone just because you don't like who they are as a person.
mukesh

Pune, India

#27 Aug 20, 2014
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DOOMED

Hickory, NC

#28 Aug 21, 2014
Owners of a family farm in Schaghticoke, New York, are being fined $13,000 for refusing to allow a gay wedding ceremony to take place on their property in 2012, just one year after the state legalized same-sex nuptials. The Giffords live on the premises and these ceremonies are typically conducted on the first floor of their home or on the nearby property.

So now you have to let Gays get married in your house or property or be fined.
Yes they have a web site advertising weddings.

http://libertyridgefarmny.com/gifford-barn/
Do not get even Get Ahead

Hickory, NC

#29 Aug 21, 2014
My response would be:
Yes! We will hold your wedding here but the cost will be One Million Dollars.
seriously

Hickory, NC

#30 Aug 21, 2014
Thisguy wrote:
<quoted text>
And that's exactly as it should be. That's called discrimination. You don't get to refuse service to someone just because you don't like who they are as a person.
You guys are contradicting yourselves. If its "my" business who I marry, or "my" business who I date, or any of that bull ...then it should be "my" business who I choose to do business with if I own "my" business. I should be able to discriminate based on whatever method I choose as long as its consistent and doesn't cause harm. In fact, I do. It has nothing to do with race, social status etc but I do discriminate and choose who I do business with.
Contradiction

Hickory, NC

#31 Aug 21, 2014
Hereís the contradiction:
If you own a hotel you donít get to decide who rents the honeymoon suite (gay or straight).
If you own a restaurant you canít refuse to serve Gay couples.
If you rent an apartment or house you canít refuse a gay couple.

So why is it ok for a photographer, baker or wedding chapel to refuse?
yes seriously

Mountain City, TN

#32 Aug 21, 2014
seriously wrote:
<quoted text>
You guys are contradicting yourselves. If its "my" business who I marry, or "my" business who I date, or any of that bull ...then it should be "my" business who I choose to do business with if I own "my" business. I should be able to discriminate based on whatever method I choose as long as its consistent and doesn't cause harm. In fact, I do. It has nothing to do with race, social status etc but I do discriminate and choose who I do business with.
That has been a Federal law now for how many years? You seem to forget when its convenient for you but when you own a business you agree to abide by the laws that govern business. You cant refuse to do business with Blacks, Hispanics or Asians no more than they can refuse Whites. I know you have to be aware of that law relating to business. Same goes for religions so it would seem obvious that sexual orientation would be in that category. Businesses cant hire based on those things and we all have known this for many years so why would you think it would be any different in this case. You cant even refuse to sell your private property to someone based on those things although its much harder to prove or prosecute. Try owning rental property and let it slip that you rent based on those things. My suggestion is, if you are a business owner and plan on being a douche then at least have enough sense to not be obvious about it.
yes seriously

Mountain City, TN

#33 Aug 21, 2014
Do not get even Get Ahead wrote:
My response would be:
Yes! We will hold your wedding here but the cost will be One Million Dollars.
That would work great in court when they want to see your records of prices charged to everyone else. Then you can explain why the sudden increase to just this couple. Nice number you came up with though, I am sure it would also be a nice round number like that the jury would award the gay couple.
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#34 Aug 21, 2014
yes seriously wrote:
<quoted text>That would work great in court when they want to see your records of prices charged to everyone else. Then you can explain why the sudden increase to just this couple. Nice number you came up with though, I am sure it would also be a nice round number like that the jury would award the gay couple.
These people will never understand the laws of this nation and feel that they can act in anyway that they decide to act, and discriminate against anyone or any group they don't like. The law has only been around since 1964, so maybe we can allow them just a little more time to catch up.
Seriously

Greenville, SC

#35 Aug 21, 2014
yes seriously wrote:
<quoted text>That has been a Federal law now for how many years? You seem to forget when its convenient for you but when you own a business you agree to abide by the laws that govern business. You cant refuse to do business with Blacks, Hispanics or Asians no more than they can refuse Whites. I know you have to be aware of that law relating to business. Same goes for religions so it would seem obvious that sexual orientation would be in that category. Businesses cant hire based on those things and we all have known this for many years so why would you think it would be any different in this case. You cant even refuse to sell your private property to someone based on those things although its much harder to prove or prosecute. Try owning rental property and let it slip that you rent based on those things. My suggestion is, if you are a business owner and plan on being a douche then at least have enough sense to not be obvious about it.
A lot, A LOT, of grey areas here so I'll just leave it alone. But let me also say this, I you are a gay business owner and I choose not to do business with you because you are gay is that different? Does it make it ok ? I still descriminated against you, just in the opposite way.
What about positions of influence, should gay individuals hold those? They could put undue influence on your children or others. Would you be ok with this?
I'm just saying this is a very slippery slope.
yes seriously

Mountain City, TN

#36 Aug 21, 2014
Seriously wrote:
<quoted text>
A lot, A LOT, of grey areas here so I'll just leave it alone. But let me also say this, I you are a gay business owner and I choose not to do business with you because you are gay is that different? Does it make it ok ? I still descriminated against you, just in the opposite way.
What about positions of influence, should gay individuals hold those? They could put undue influence on your children or others. Would you be ok with this?
I'm just saying this is a very slippery slope.
Well the law itself is pretty black and white but as always it depends on who and how they interpret it in court but even this is pretty cut and dry. Business owners have very little wiggle room while dealing with the public. Personally I cant imagine not doing business with anyone based on that, I actually like money and their money is just as green as the next persons.

As far as the consumer not doing business with someone based on these things, they can. We see boycotts of businesses all the time by groups of consumers and the business owner has very little recourse unless he can prove some sort of slander or liable by the group organizers. There are really no laws to say someone has to do business with a another. The reason a business does not have this luxury is because they are a licensed business open to the general public. Part of that license process and the tax shelters that go along with that is their agreement to do unrestricted public business. Gays pay taxes like any American, businesses get tax breaks so therefore they have to do business with them. That isn't the official reason but it is a short explanation in a nutshell .

What about positions of influence? That makes me think you have little actual experience around gay people. Not saying it in a bad way just you seem to have an innocent misunderstanding of them with that comment. Gays are not monsters or looking to convert straight people to gay I can absolutely assure you. If you can picture it the same way you look at yourself except they like the same sex. I know many of them and never once have I seen the slightest notion of them doing so. I never see any difference in them than anyone else I know. The ones I know, their actual sexuality is never brought up, we talk about everything that I talk with everyone else about and its no more a part of who they are than anyone else. I would be very Ok with them being in a position of influence the same as I would gauge anyone else, I dont consider their sexuality in the equation.
Contradiction

Hickory, NC

#37 Aug 22, 2014
I agree there should be no discrimination by gender, race, national origin, religion, age, marital status, disability or sexual orientation.
However condoning homosexuality or homosexual marriage is another matter. Discrimination based on morality is acceptable. The US government discriminates against felons by not allowing them to vote. Any business can ask customers to leave if they are not adhering to rules of public decency also (No Shirt, No Shoes, No service) or (Weapons not allowed on the premises).
So we can discriminate against felons, shirtless patrons or folks with concealed carry permits.
To choose not to do business with a homosexual couple falls into the same category.
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#38 Aug 22, 2014
Contradiction wrote:
I agree there should be no discrimination by gender, race, national origin, religion, age, marital status, disability or sexual orientation.
However condoning homosexuality or homosexual marriage is another matter. Discrimination based on morality is acceptable. The US government discriminates against felons by not allowing them to vote. Any business can ask customers to leave if they are not adhering to rules of public decency also (No Shirt, No Shoes, No service) or (Weapons not allowed on the premises).
So we can discriminate against felons, shirtless patrons or folks with concealed carry permits.
To choose not to do business with a homosexual couple falls into the same category.
Felons disobeyed the law and lost some of their rights as a result of punishment, shirtless patrons can be a potential health risk and concealed carry holders have the potential to shoot your place up if angered. Now, how do you place homosexuals in the same category ?
Waco 1909

Greer, SC

#39 Aug 23, 2014
State of Florida wrote:
<quoted text>
Felons disobeyed the law and lost some of their rights as a result of punishment, shirtless patrons can be a potential health risk and concealed carry holders have the potential to shoot your place up if angered. Now, how do you place homosexuals in the same category ?
Maybe the felons should have the laws changed so what they did that was formerly illegal, would then be legal.
You know, like with gay marriage.
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#40 Aug 23, 2014
Waco 1909 wrote:
<quoted text> Maybe the felons should have the laws changed so what they did that was formerly illegal, would then be legal.
You know, like with gay marriage.
Maybe the Republican legislature can set up a state wide referendum for this purpose. The result would be just as wasteful to taxpayers as Amendment One was.

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