problems at caldwell county jail

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Worried

Hickory, NC

#1 Jul 13, 2006
Fight cost county thousands

A recent fight at the detention center cost Caldwell County more than $20,000, and the incident punctuated the county's need to curb rising medical costs at the jail.

And the county will likely have to pay more medical bills from the incident.

In June, a federal inmate at the Caldwell County Detention Center and a county inmate got into a fight, Detention Center Capt. Jeff Holsclaw said.

“When (the county inmate) fell, he hit face down on the concrete,” Holsclaw said.“(The fall) broke his jaw and the bone under his eye.”

By law, once a person is in custody at the detention center or any other state or federal prison, the government in charge of the facility is responsible to provide medical care. Holsclaw said the hospitals in the area could not provide the care needed for the inmate, so the detention center sent the inmate to Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center in Winston-Salem.

So far the county has paid $20,582 for the incident, and that just covers use of the hospital, not the charge from the surgeons.

Inmate medical costs at the detention center have more than doubled since the 2002-03 fiscal year.

During the 2002-03 fiscal year, the county paid $95,548 in inmate medical expenses.

The cost jumped to $121,543 in 2003-04. During 2004-05, the cost rose again to $179,349.

For the 2005-06 fiscal year, the cost has climbed to $237,256 so far,

WHY IS THIS HAPPENING???
Clark has won

United States

#2 Jul 13, 2006
I know this is a surprise to you, but criminals fight. They take advantage of the system and because Sheriff Clark is busting so many criminals, the jail is extra full with bad guys and they have health problems and they fight. If this really bothers you, they can let the criminals come stay with you and you can take care of them.....
Lock up

Four Oaks, NC

#3 Jul 14, 2006
I do not know if this is a surprise to you but you put people in jail to keep them from hurting others. They are supposed to be in lock up or well supervised. What is going on in Caldwell Co???????
Worried

Hickory, NC

#4 Jul 14, 2006
Why do they let them take advantage of the system, I thought that you have no rights when you are locked up?
I understand that Caldwell takes inmates from other counties is that why the jail is extra full and there is not enough room for the ones in Caldwell?
As for the inmates fighting is there no one there to watch over them and keep this from going on?
Is it possible to add on to the jail to make more room?
Hearing things

United States

#5 Jul 14, 2006
Clark has won wrote:
I know this is a surprise to you, but criminals fight. They take advantage of the system and because Sheriff Clark is busting so many criminals, the jail is extra full with bad guys and they have health problems and they fight. If this really bothers you, they can let the criminals come stay with you and you can take care of them.....
Isn't it sad to see a concerned citizen ask a serious question, only to receive yet another sarcastic remark offered as an answer. It's to be expected though, after reading the numerous (and I do mean numerous) other fabricated, misleading, sarcastic and slanderous posts, just look at the name on the left and consider the source.
Harris will win

Four Oaks, NC

#6 Jul 14, 2006
Clark has won wrote:
I know this is a surprise to you, but criminals fight. They take advantage of the system and because Sheriff Clark is busting so many criminals, the jail is extra full with bad guys and they have health problems and they fight. If this really bothers you, they can let the criminals come stay with you and you can take care of them.....
Actually if clark were doing his job, he would make sure that the jail would not be so crowded that it poses a threat to the safty of all inmates. What if someone is put in jail by mistake or for a simple thing and you are saying it is alright for other inmates to beat them up. I DO NOT THINK SO!!!! BETTER HAVE SOME SYMPATHY FOR THESE GUYS CLARK, YOU MAY BE IN THERE WITH THEM SOMETIME.
Worried

Hickory, NC

#7 Aug 9, 2006
Clark has won wrote:
I know this is a surprise to you, but criminals fight. They take advantage of the system and because Sheriff Clark is busting so many criminals, the jail is extra full with bad guys and they have health problems and they fight. If this really bothers you, they can let the criminals come stay with you and you can take care of them.....
Ok you say that the jail is extra full,please answer this then,
Why take in more inmates?
Where did you put them?
Did you find people to take them home with them to take care of?

Yadkin County forced to move inmates,
44 inmates moved to Watauga and Caldwell Counties at $45.00 a day.

This news was in LNT today page 5A (if you missed it)
brazin

North Wilkesboro, NC

#8 Aug 9, 2006
No, the only person taking advantage of the system is Gary Clark. Not all of the inmates are people that have been arrested by the SO. Have you forgotten about GFPD, HPD and LPD? They arrest criminals also. As for the federal inmate fight, he should not have been housed or in the same area in the jail as the general population. I have a better idea. Just let Gary come stay with you and get him out of the sheriff's office before it's too late. Hopefully, Terry can rebuild the diginity the SO once had.
Clark has won wrote:
I know this is a surprise to you, but criminals fight. They take advantage of the system and because Sheriff Clark is busting so many criminals, the jail is extra full with bad guys and they have health problems and they fight. If this really bothers you, they can let the criminals come stay with you and you can take care of them.....
WTF

Wilson, NC

#9 Aug 9, 2006
Clark has won wrote:
I know this is a surprise to you, but criminals fight. They take advantage of the system and because Sheriff Clark is busting so many criminals, the jail is extra full with bad guys and they have health problems and they fight. If this really bothers you, they can let the criminals come stay with you and you can take care of them.....
Oh well yes criminals fight well let's just put them all in a big pen and let them go at it until their isn't any more left standing, what and ignorant answer to a legitimate question. Please think before you posts you make all of us who read your posts feel like we have had our intelligence sucked out a little bit more each time we have to sit here and try to comprehend what you are trying to say.
Soldierswife for Harris

Louisburg, NC

#10 Aug 9, 2006
The criminals are already in charge of Caldwell Co. That is why we are having an election to vote clark out of office and Terry Harris in.
WTF

Wilson, NC

#11 Aug 9, 2006
Amen let's get the real criminals out of there.
WTF

Wilson, NC

#12 Aug 9, 2006
brazin wrote:
No, the only person taking advantage of the system is Gary Clark. Not all of the inmates are people that have been arrested by the SO. Have you forgotten about GFPD, HPD and LPD? They arrest criminals also. As for the federal inmate fight, he should not have been housed or in the same area in the jail as the general population. I have a better idea. Just let Gary come stay with you and get him out of the sheriff's office before it's too late. Hopefully, Terry can rebuild the diginity the SO once had. <quoted text>
Oh no you must know by now that Clark has single handedly put an end to the massive crime wave that was sweeping across Caldwell county (wink,wink) He's the only one who should get credit for anything. He's a one man coalition against drugs, which I might add is quite the catchy campaign slogan (ahmm)Who cares about all the other crimes committed, they're nothing compared to those pesky drug users.
Worried

Hickory, NC

#13 Aug 11, 2006
Worried wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok you say that the jail is extra full,please answer this then,
Why take in more inmates?
Where did you put them?
Did you find people to take them home with them to take care of?
Yadkin County forced to move inmates,
44 inmates moved to Watauga and Caldwell Counties at $45.00 a day.
This news was in LNT today page 5A (if you missed it)
Didn't really think I would get a answer to the questions,soI guess I will make a guess at what was done right?

Let's see> pack as many as you can get in a cell,they can sleep on the floor,am I close to the answer?
Worried

Hickory, NC

#14 Aug 11, 2006
Someone posted on another thread that there were 26 demerits at the jail.
Does anyone know what they were for?
Was #1 over crowded in a cell?
Jail Problem

Asheville, NC

#15 Aug 11, 2006
Worried wrote:
Someone posted on another thread that there were 26 demerits at the jail.
Does anyone know what they were for?
Was #1 over crowded in a cell?
Jails across the state routinely get demerits for problems found during inspections. It happens to all of them and has for years. It's like a health inspector, some demerits are bad and others don't really mean anything. I would like to know what the demerits are for before I decide if they're legitimate or not.

Their have always been fights in the jails and will continue to be. Caldwell County along with other counties have had to pay for fights, pregnancies, treatments, surgeries, dental care and other medical problems for many years.

I don't know if the Caldwell County Jail asks for insurance cards from people that are incarcerated but that's one way to alleviate some of the burden on the taxpayer. Just get their insurance card if one of them gets sick or injured and let it pay on the bill. Other jails have done it for a long time.

Again, this is nothing new, it's just something that someone has made an issue over. I have seen Caldwell County pay medical bills for inmates well over $20,000. Not only that but if someone has a major medical problem and potentially will cost the county a lot of money, place them on Electronic House Arrest.
Harris is Honest

Roxboro, NC

#16 Aug 11, 2006
My guess is that the demerits were more serious than clark wants us to know or there would be a list of them posted already. It is time to vote the clark trash out of office and Terry Harris into office.
Worried

Hickory, NC

#17 Aug 11, 2006
I wish that someone would post a list of the demerits so that we could all see what if any problems there are or not.
I'm not asking the questions for punch lines or jokes,I look at it as a taxpayer.
I think that the ones put in jail should have a tab put on them like a loan to repay the County when they are let out,that way they will have to work to pay back the County the money used on them while in jail and that will help ease the taxpayers or money to add to LE.
In some cases house arrest would work well to,but make them pay a fee for the use of things needed for this.
Harris will win

Spring Lake, NC

#18 Aug 11, 2006
If we only get $45. a day to keep prisoners for other counties, and have to spend out large sums of money for their health care, food, etc. something is messed up with that math. I do not think that $8.oo a pack cigarettes that clark keeps for his own spending money, could even make up the difference, if he gave it back to the county. Terry Harris is going to win this election, because clark and the commissioners can not do math.
Harris will win

Spring Lake, NC

#19 Aug 11, 2006
It would make more sense to only keep prisoners from Caldwell co. in the jail. This would save the county tax payers money, but of course sheriff otis could not sell as many cigarettes at $8. per pack. That way we would only be responsible for our county's residents, odds of them having insurance is slim to none. Then they would not have to sleep on the floor,they would get their medicines, and have a blanket and enough to eat. Instead of the present overcrowded conditions. That might cut down on fights and demerits. Someone do the math, the Sheriff is not able to figure that out.
Worried

Hickory, NC

#20 Aug 11, 2006
The $45. a day is that to feed,house and clothe?
The health care is reimbursed at what 100% or less?
Do we have to pay for anything for out of county inmates?
Are we making any profit from other county inmates?

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