why does ccdss take kids based on lies

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sophia

Barnwell, SC

#1 Jun 10, 2013
Thereis a child she has a deceasex father and the mother takes good care of her however every 3yrs like clock work these poker playing pill popping /selling tey to make false aligatipns and have this child taken from the mom. These people have money do the fake church thing. yet go around calling dss trying to take kids that are not theres? The people who made the false report is on narcotic pain meds her husbands been too rehab 2x over his addi tion and ever other month they report a narcotic theft from where there son and nephew steals there meds. They ay poker they drink they lie but they have money that this young mother dont have. Why is dss allowed to just take kids without knowing the real truth. whycant a report be made on the cps worker who actually byes pills from the ones who make these false aligations? i know that theres alot of people out there going through this same mess if u have any suggestions please post
sophia

Barnwell, SC

#2 Jun 10, 2013
I made some errors in spelling but im. on a tablet that tries to spell what it wants too spell!sorry in advance.
Pike Bishop

Enfield, IL

#3 Jun 12, 2013
Mainly because there is suspected abuse or drug activity. Oh by the way why does the agency err on side of caution- two words Zahra Baker.
potnegative

Morganton, NC

#4 Jun 12, 2013
Seems like people just don't get it or don't want to. If you do drugs around your kids, or get drunk around them, there is basis for a DSS report.
Just because a person is home when (s)he snorts coke, smokes dope, or gets drunk doesn't make that person exempt from the attention of neighbors who call DSS.

Just because it's your norm doesn't mean it's a good environment for your kids. If people don't want DSS taking their kids, then don't give DSS a reason to mark the case as substantiated.(that means the case has good grounds for child removal).

People need to stop blaming DSS and face the fact that people see what is being done to the children and there are some who won't look the other way to let it slide.
Duh

Lenoir, NC

#5 Jun 12, 2013
sophia wrote:
. Why is dss allowed to just take kids without knowing the real truth.
Real truth? As opposed to fake truth?

CPS investigates false accusations, because an accusation is an accusation. They remove kids from a home because of the investigation, not because of the accusation. If the investigation finds nothing of concern, the case is closed. If the kids are taken, it's because they found something.
mymy

Barnwell, SC

#6 Jun 12, 2013
Dss in Lenoir isn't perfect but they don't remove children for the fun of it. They have to investigate all claims. When they find a problem, that's when the children are taken. Be a good parent, don't do drugs, pop pills or abuse your kids and dss has n reason!! Simple as that.
say what?

Cherryville, NC

#7 Jun 12, 2013
Duh wrote:
<quoted text>Real truth? As opposed to fake truth?

CPS investigates false accusations, because an accusation is an accusation. They remove kids from a home because of the investigation, not because of the accusation. If the investigation finds nothing of concern, the case is closed. If the kids are taken, it's because they found something.
True an accusation is just that. True or false they must be investigated. The proper steps for the mother is first, be cooperative ..two,document events concerning the child, almost like a diary so she knows who and where the child was around on what days..third, the mother needs to keep straight and avoid being around any negative influences herself.. Fourth, if all else fails, sounds like she needs to find new friends and a new area to live so whoever keeps reporting her does not know her routine and daily happenings.
Not true

Lenoir, NC

#8 Jun 13, 2013
DSS in Caldwell Is a total joke! They don't do anything. So in the RARE event that they do take a child out of a home..... It must be really really bad. So Sophia I do not feel sorry for you or the situation at all.... Nice try!!!
xyz

Old Fort, NC

#9 Jun 13, 2013
DSS-Lenoir is competent and thorough in their investigations and are concerned only with the child's best interests.
In my experience

Hudson, NC

#10 Jun 13, 2013
The people you say have money and not matter how crooked they are they can give the kid a better life. It' Lenoir. Money talks bullshit walks. Other family must have political pull and give generously to local charities. Can you compete with their savy? If not, will they give you visitation rights?
yes woman

Morganton, NC

#11 Jun 14, 2013
xyz wrote:
DSS-Lenoir is competent and thorough in their investigations and are concerned only with the child's best interests.
It is clear you must work there!
History lesson

Denver, NC

#12 Jun 14, 2013
sophia wrote:
Thereis a child she has a deceasex father and the mother takes good care of her however every 3yrs like clock work these poker playing pill popping /selling tey to make false aligatipns and have this child taken from the mom. These people have money do the fake church thing. yet go around calling dss trying to take kids that are not theres? The people who made the false report is on narcotic pain meds her husbands been too rehab 2x over his addi tion and ever other month they report a narcotic theft from where there son and nephew steals there meds. They ay poker they drink they lie but they have money that this young mother dont have. Why is dss allowed to just take kids without knowing the real truth. whycant a report be made on the cps worker who actually byes pills from the ones who make these false aligations? i know that theres alot of people out there going through this same mess if u have any suggestions please post
The reason is simple.
They ashamed of and scared of the fact that they did nothing and allowed the Baker girl to be beaten repeatedly then murdered only after being warned 5000 times.
Those idiots are just another money sucking mouth of government corruption. They used to sit back and do nothing and just collect checks, now they make commission on how many homes they destroy.
More abuse of power, thats your answer.
sorry A county

Lenoir, NC

#13 Jun 14, 2013
Sad thing is that ccso had been to the Bakers many many times while they still lived in Caldwell. DSS knew about the Bakers as well and did nothing as usual. I wonder how many times the Deputies had been out there and seen something that would have been enough to push DSS but decided it was too much paper work and effort. I suppose if ccso and DSS had spent as much time investigating the Bakers as they did screwing in the DSS building and parking lot after hours this little girl might still be here.
Pike Bishop

Enfield, IL

#14 Jun 14, 2013
Reminder that the Baker girl was living in Catawba at her murder and was killed there. Catawba has some fault too.
sorry A county

Lenoir, NC

#15 Jun 14, 2013
Pike Bishop wrote:
Reminder that the Baker girl was living in Catawba at her murder and was killed there. Catawba has some fault too.
Yes they do but Catawba didn't have near the amount of previous interaction with them as our LE and DSS. In fact they were staying low in Catawba as she had petty warrants on her but ccso knew they were living in Catawba and where. Neither our sheriffs office or DSS shared any information with Catawba County. To them it was just another one of thousands in the system and who has time to worry about just one.
letmeexplain2u

Hudson, NC

#16 Jun 17, 2013
Everybody seems to want to blame somebody else instesad of manning up and taking responsibilty.
DSS is obligated by law to investigate any and all
reports of abuse or neglect. They do their jobs.

The Bakers were pros at hopping from county to county when the heat got too hot on them. Anyone
willing to take the time to search it out would see that there were other counties besides Caldwell and Catawba that the Bakers had lived in and skipped out of when they caught attention for
themselves. When they left a county, that county no longer had jurisdiction over the situation. It all started back at ground zero again. When they arrived at the new county, that county had nothing against them, and the prior county couldn't continue the investigation any further.

Unfortunately, there are people who know how to work the system, and they do it like a boss. Thanks to their experiences, they know what to do to avoid being caught. DSS has to operate by the law. Sometimes the law gets it right, sometimes the law straight out sucks. Fact is, you can't have it both ways. This thread started out being about DSS being over zealous and now has went to DSS being too lax. Each case is different, just like circumstances in each case are different.

Don't like DSS up in your biz? If they investigate you based on an anonymous report, don't give them a reason to say the report is substantiated.

I'm not ashamed to admit that I will call DSS if need be. I won't stand by and let a child or a disabled person be mistreated. Right is right.

Straight on

Hudson, NC

#17 Jun 17, 2013
letmeexplain2u wrote:
Everybody seems to want to blame somebody else instesad of manning up and taking responsibilty.
DSS is obligated by law to investigate any and all
reports of abuse or neglect. They do their jobs.
The Bakers were pros at hopping from county to county when the heat got too hot on them. Anyone
willing to take the time to search it out would see that there were other counties besides Caldwell and Catawba that the Bakers had lived in and skipped out of when they caught attention for
themselves. When they left a county, that county no longer had jurisdiction over the situation. It all started back at ground zero again. When they arrived at the new county, that county had nothing against them, and the prior county couldn't continue the investigation any further.
Unfortunately, there are people who know how to work the system, and they do it like a boss. Thanks to their experiences, they know what to do to avoid being caught. DSS has to operate by the law. Sometimes the law gets it right, sometimes the law straight out sucks. Fact is, you can't have it both ways. This thread started out being about DSS being over zealous and now has went to DSS being too lax. Each case is different, just like circumstances in each case are different.
Don't like DSS up in your biz? If they investigate you based on an anonymous report, don't give them a reason to say the report is substantiated.
I'm not ashamed to admit that I will call DSS if need be. I won't stand by and let a child or a disabled person be mistreated. Right is right.
Good for you. Whoever started this sounds sort of stupid. If the father is dead and the mother has custody and is doing nothing wrong she should sue the troublemakers for slander. But I have a feeling she may be poor because of some deadbeat boyfriend or other family members "who have bad habits" that she is either apart of or enables. The person who started this sounds nosey and a little stupid to get on here and advertise to the whole world what should be a private situation. She should be telling the problem to a lawyer. If I had custody of a child and someone challenged me every few years I'd cut all ties and move to another state where I could start a new live that would be better for the child. Was she even married to the father? Is the situation from his family? Was his name even on the birth certificate? If they are wanting custody of the child they actually have no hold to keep her from leaving the state. She needs to get the hell out of dodge and go where there are some good men with good jobs and a good education and get married to someone who can provide for her and the child while she gets a better education to earn a better placement in society that what she is experiencing here. Example -- Myrtle Beach, Savanna, Ga., Charleston, SC.
xyz

Walkertown, NC

#18 Jun 18, 2013
Do not work there
yes woman wrote:
<quoted text>
It is clear you must work there!
xyz

Walkertown, NC

#19 Jun 18, 2013
I do not work at DSS

Since: Jun 13

Fayetteville, NC

#20 Jun 23, 2013
History lesson wrote:
<quoted text>
The reason is simple.
They ashamed of and scared of the fact that they did nothing and allowed the Baker girl to be beaten repeatedly then murdered only after being warned 5000 times.
Those idiots are just another money sucking mouth of government corruption. They used to sit back and do nothing and just collect checks, now they make commission on how many homes they destroy.
More abuse of power, thats your answer.
You are right, I know there were a total if not more not addressed of 22 reported allegations in the case Baker. If the child bless her soul not undermining the child's gift, but if the system would have benefited by her and the income from the federal government she would still be alive today. The system found no gain from protecting the child so I blame the system for her death. I believe her spirit is alive and well and is watching over the closer of this illegal actions being put to a halt.

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