George Zimmerman.....Again!
State of Florida

Charlotte, NC

#144 Sep 29, 2013
waco1909 wrote:
"He could h have been my son"
If you consider that a statement of great division, then I understand your positions on everything else.
However,I am glad you said that.'Moving along' never gave me an answer when he was asked, so I will ask you. You have expressed on here many times that TM was a punk thug trouble makeer with a history of theft who was up to no good on the night of his murder. One thing really bothers me. Why was Tm, the thug, not armed on the night of his death? I thought that thugs were always armed. Why was he not armed?
TSF

Angier, NC

#145 Sep 29, 2013
What Obama and Eric Holder did to create an us against them atmosphere was open their mouths clearly speaking from their positions of power and then further try to influence the outcome of a criminal trial. That created the impression that our justice system needs to be operated by the administrative branch if they do not come to a PC verdict. Then the underlying impression is that our justice system is prejudiced by whites against blacks because an Hispanic man killed a black. One would expect the US attorney general to support the courts rather than undermine them. One would expect the president of the USA , a constitutional lawyer, to understand that it is constitutionally improper for the administrative branch to undermine the judicial branch. I cannot think of a more detrimental way to undermine cohesion in our country.
State of Florida wrote:
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How did Obama perpetuate an "us against them" strategy? Please give me specifics. Does the Tea Party and other Republican groups use "us against them" strategies to block everything Obama proposes, or is it only Obama who is the "Un-uniter"? What could Obama have done that he failed to do in becoming a Uniter?
kev from Michigan

Chicago, IL

#146 Sep 30, 2013
I don' . Know why this guy is in limelight. He wasn't famous before trayvon.jury has spoken. Media, stay out of this guys life please. This is all about ratings. And his wifes comments should be taken lightly.let this guy live normal.
State of Florida

Huntersville, NC

#147 Sep 30, 2013
kev from Michigan wrote:
I don'. Know why this guy is in limelight. He wasn't famous before trayvon.jury has spoken. Media, stay out of this guys life please. This is all about ratings. And his wifes comments should be taken lightly.let this guy live normal.
He placed himself in the limelight. He chooses for himself to live "normal" or not. Assault on family members is not "normal", so I hope he makes different choices.
wow really

Lenoir, NC

#148 Sep 30, 2013
State of Florida wrote:
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He placed himself in the limelight. He chooses for himself to live "normal" or not. Assault on family members is not "normal", so I hope he makes different choices.
Wow that would be a lot of never ending media coverage if every person that assaulted a family member on a daily basis was in the national news. I guess you've never been mad at a family member enough to assault them or at least think about it. Boy next time my brother and I get into a tussle or spat I should expect CNN to be at my door. Funny thing is he wasn't arrested or charged that I am aware of so must not have been much of a fight or he was in the right. Oh that's right it was only alleged by his wife that was also found guilty of perjury in his former trial, she also claimed he had a gun on the 911 call which police couldn't find LOLOLOL try again.
State of Florida

Crouse, NC

#149 Sep 30, 2013
wow really wrote:
<quoted text>Wow that would be a lot of never ending media coverage if every person that assaulted a family member on a daily basis was in the national news. I guess you've never been mad at a family member enough to assault them or at least think about it. Boy next time my brother and I get into a tussle or spat I should expect CNN to be at my door. Funny thing is he wasn't arrested or charged that I am aware of so must not have been much of a fight or he was in the right. Oh that's right it was only alleged by his wife that was also found guilty of perjury in his former trial, she also claimed he had a gun on the 911 call which police couldn't find LOLOLOL try again.
Maybe you will be the next one to shoot an unarmed kid and gain some national fame for yourself. Then, CNN will be there when you and your brother duke it out. You have to lay the groundwork first like George did.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#150 Sep 30, 2013
State of Florida, why would Martin need to be armed? Although he did the usual mandatory thug pictures on his phone with guns, he didn't need to carry a gun just to case the neighborhood.As for my comments on Martin, they were exactly as measured as yours were regarding Zimmermann.Thought you would have noticed that.
move along

Lenoir, NC

#151 Sep 30, 2013
State of Florida wrote:
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All you need is an education on the subject. Your challenge is to investigate the decisions that were made in previous years and city administrations that has caused the collapse in Detroit today. If you investigate the facts of the issue in most things instead of putting on your racial blinders as in this case, you may develop some skills that may later be helpful to you. Let me know what you find.
You mean do some background investigating like say with TM and how he had been in trouble with the law for stealing and how Z's neighborhood had been repeatedly victimized by breaking and entering and theft. I love how your kind can use one excuse in one instance but then completely disregard that same excuse when the opposition uses it.

So you are saying basically we shouldn't blame the current all back Detroit administration for the complete devastation of that city, it has to be a previous white administrations fault I am sure. Where have I heard that before, oh that is right with Obama vs Bush. In all actually I didn't like Bush but I think Obama has surpassed anything I didn't like about Bush of course that fact alone means I am a racist.
move along

Lenoir, NC

#152 Sep 30, 2013
State of Florida wrote:
Since these threads always seem to go racial at some point in the discussion, let me ask a broad open ended question to anyone who wants to respond.
Since the US has many enemies world wide who have ambitions to conquer us, do you think that our enemies want us to solve our racial differences, or would they like for us to become more divided as a nation in regard to race?
In a military tactical point they could care less if they know anything about the US. They know white far outnumber blacks so they have no tactical advantage in further racial divide. Where they want to divide us is politically and they use the liberals very well in that sense. Its actually our enemies within that pose the most danger to us but I dont want to confuse you any further for now.
move along

Lenoir, NC

#153 Sep 30, 2013
State of Florida wrote:
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How did Obama perpetuate an "us against them" strategy? Please give me specifics. Does the Tea Party and other Republican groups use "us against them" strategies to block everything Obama proposes, or is it only Obama who is the "Un-uniter"? What could Obama have done that he failed to do in becoming a Uniter?
Waco answered this one exactly. He should have kept his big mouth and the white house out of the whole event. He cant comment on Benghazi but he sure can say a lot about one of hundreds of murders that happen every year, he made it special and he made it special because the victim was black and the suspect was white (actually mixed) but whatever.
move along

Lenoir, NC

#154 Sep 30, 2013
State of Florida wrote:
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If you consider that a statement of great division, then I understand your positions on everything else.
However,I am glad you said that.'Moving along' never gave me an answer when he was asked, so I will ask you. You have expressed on here many times that TM was a punk thug trouble makeer with a history of theft who was up to no good on the night of his murder. One thing really bothers me. Why was Tm, the thug, not armed on the night of his death? I thought that thugs were always armed. Why was he not armed?
I didn't know every thug was armed even though i assume they are (I assume everyone is) I have met many that were not. Maybe he sold his piece for some Skittles. I know he was a perfect little angel and just misunderstood is all. He was just angry from all those years of white oppression keeping the black man down... is that about right?
move along

Lenoir, NC

#155 Sep 30, 2013
State of Florida wrote:
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He placed himself in the limelight. He chooses for himself to live "normal" or not. Assault on family members is not "normal", so I hope he makes different choices.
No charges, no gun found at the scene, no arrest... are you sad now? Maybe the next "crazy" cracker that guns down an innocent little black angel will give you some better ammo in which to rant with.
move along

Lenoir, NC

#156 Sep 30, 2013
State of Florida wrote:
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Maybe you will be the next one to shoot an unarmed kid and gain some national fame for yourself. Then, CNN will be there when you and your brother duke it out. You have to lay the groundwork first like George did.
I am still wondering why that gained national attention. Its the whole point I am here... just how is that national news worthy? How is that worthy of gaining a response from Obama and the white house?
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#157 Sep 30, 2013
move along wrote:
<quoted text>Waco answered this one exactly. He should have kept his big mouth and the white house out of the whole event. He cant comment on Benghazi but he sure can say a lot about one of hundreds of murders that happen every year, he made it special and he made it special because the victim was black and the suspect was white (actually mixed) but whatever.
Now Obama is black and Zimmerman is mixed? I guess you have forgotten that Obama is mixed? One mixed man cannot comment on another? I see.
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#158 Sep 30, 2013
move along wrote:
<quoted text>You mean do some background investigating like say with TM and how he had been in trouble with the law for stealing and how Z's neighborhood had been repeatedly victimized by breaking and entering and theft. I love how your kind can use one excuse in one instance but then completely disregard that same excuse when the opposition uses it.
So you are saying basically we shouldn't blame the current all back Detroit administration for the complete devastation of that city, it has to be a previous white administrations fault I am sure. Where have I heard that before, oh that is right with Obama vs Bush. In all actually I didn't like Bush but I think Obama has surpassed anything I didn't like about Bush of course that fact alone means I am a racist.
I wonder if Martin had been a white kid in a hoodie if Zimmerman would have given a second thought to following him? No, that doesn't fit the profile, does it? Zimmerman wasn't aware that black people live in the neighborhood and this kid may be one of them going home? No, because you and Zimmerman share the same stereotype. "Hell, there is a young black kid. He has to be up to no good". You are all over. Detroit? Read the history of pension contracts they got into in previous years in the 1960's and other policies they never corrected. Then you will begin to see the underlying reasons for some of their demise. It is not just black or white administrations, it is a long term misadminstration of public money as well as economic effects of the problems in the auto industry. Look it up. There it is.
move along

Lenoir, NC

#159 Sep 30, 2013
State of Florida wrote:
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Now Obama is black and Zimmerman is mixed? I guess you have forgotten that Obama is mixed? One mixed man cannot comment on another? I see.
Well everyone else seems to forget Obama is mixed so why not. First black POTUS? Again you divert from the point at hand but I am used to it, just more win for me.
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#160 Sep 30, 2013
move along wrote:
<quoted text>I am still wondering why that gained national attention. Its the whole point I am here... just how is that national news worthy? How is that worthy of gaining a response from Obama and the white house?
It is news worthy because it was a senseless murder of a kid in America that could have been avoided if the shooter would have displayed some common sense to the 911 dispatcher and would have allowed the police to handle the matter. The police not charging Zimmerman initially gave fuel to the fire. It gave the wrong appearance to many that the police were simply putting this case under wraps to avoid national and international negative publicity. Maybe you are not aware that in the past, but many murders of minority people have been swept under the rug. Maybe you didn't know this because many have never caught the media attention. Or, maybe you do know and like many, just want to turn your head to it happening. I don't know your reasons. Maybe you can explain why it is not news worthy enough for the public to know.
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#161 Sep 30, 2013
move along wrote:
<quoted text>In a military tactical point they could care less if they know anything about the US. They know white far outnumber blacks so they have no tactical advantage in further racial divide. Where they want to divide us is politically and they use the liberals very well in that sense. Its actually our enemies within that pose the most danger to us but I dont want to confuse you any further for now.
Or, could the enemy within be you and those who have no desire to bring the issue of racial division to an end? So now, I am assuming that you define all minority people as the enemy within? Is that your position? Maybe the liberals desire to see that all citizens are here in America to enjoy the same rights as everyone else, regardless of color or economic class. Many conservatives fear that notion, and have resisted it for years, and continue to do so today. I know many of them very well. Are you in that group? Why or why not?
move along

Lenoir, NC

#162 Sep 30, 2013
I wonder SoF do you and others like you not see the writing on the wall here. The Civil Rights movement was important but its over now, the whole race factor has become a tired subject that only seems to ever be brought up by the left and blacks. In one breath your side says we are all equal and should be treated as such but btw we are black and proud of it and "hey notice me I am black", you cant have it both ways.

I have been around both races my entire life and I have personally seen ten times more aggressive racism from blacks. That's not to say I dont see it on a regular basis from my own kind but it is generally a benign form that isn't used to further their own agenda, mainly because its socially unacceptable for a white to be openly racist whereas its not for a black person but none the less most whites today could care less and wouldn't even pay attention to it of not for people constantly bringing it up.

You accomplish nothing from this other than stirring the pot and creating a further divide that for years had disappeared. I can honestly say I have seen an upswing in anger from middle class whites since this circus sideshow on national TV. They are sick of it and sick of hearing about because most wonder the same questions I do. Why is this a big deal when a white can be killed by a black and no one cares. If nothing else you are setting your cause back several decades. Its not like middle class whites dont have enough already to be pissed about.

People like you are lead around like sheep by the media, you give in to hype and hysteria just like they want. Anything from race issues to guns its like a damn liberal feeding ground out there and they are making a fortune of playing your liberal heart strings. The bad thing is they are angering a large majority of Americans a majority they would have you believe doesn't exist. Its all smoke and mirrors.

The two party system is a farce and if you really want to talk about our enemies who want to play us against each other maybe you should start there not thousands of miles overseas. Stop being part of the problem, its fine to care about senseless murder but use some common sense once and a while. If it looks like a three ring circus then it probably is.
move along

Lenoir, NC

#163 Sep 30, 2013
State of Florida wrote:
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It is news worthy because it was a senseless murder of a kid in America that could have been avoided if the shooter would have displayed some common sense to the 911 dispatcher and would have allowed the police to handle the matter. The police not charging Zimmerman initially gave fuel to the fire. It gave the wrong appearance to many that the police were simply putting this case under wraps to avoid national and international negative publicity. Maybe you are not aware that in the past, but many murders of minority people have been swept under the rug. Maybe you didn't know this because many have never caught the media attention. Or, maybe you do know and like many, just want to turn your head to it happening. I don't know your reasons. Maybe you can explain why it is not news worthy enough for the public to know.
It is not news worthy out of pure numbers. It is one out of hundreds and AGAIN why not the numerous whites that were murdered by blacks in just recent months. WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT GET LOL. Yeah Police covered up murders of blacks IN THE 50's and 60's, you've watched to many movies. The police do not arrest murder suspects in HUNDREDS of cases every year until they take it to the DA and the Grand Jury for an indictment ESPECIALLY when its not clear cut as in this case. Why is it ok to question the Police and not follow what they say in this sense but it wasn't ok to for Zimmerman to not listen to a NON SWORN DISPATCHERS ADVICE. Some how people like you completely disregard the fact that Martin turned around and came back to confront Zimmerman when had he just went on he would still be alive, if Z was a racist killer he would have shot Martin in the back as he was leaving now wouldn't he. That would have been a little more news worthy and yes he should have been found guilty and executed in my opinion.

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