Flood anger: 'Saving the rich, buryin...

Flood anger: 'Saving the rich, burying the poor?'

There are 210 comments on the MSNBC story from May 16, 2011, titled Flood anger: 'Saving the rich, burying the poor?'. In it, MSNBC reports that:

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goodforya

Bossier City, LA

#1 May 16, 2011
You live in a flood zone! The sole purpose for all that land is to be flooded in case of an emergency. Did you ever stop and think why the land is so cheap or why it's not built up like baton rouge or new orleans? Did you believe that giant wall was built to protect your home from floods? No it was built to do exactly what it's doing now, flood the spillway! Now stop complaining and get moving before you look like the idiots in new orleans who forgot they live in a bowl! Good luck to you all and hope most of you found a ins company dumb enough to hive you flood ins.
Port Barre, La.

White Castle, LA

#2 May 16, 2011
goodforya wrote:
You live in a flood zone! The sole purpose for all that land is to be flooded in case of an emergency. Did you ever stop and think why the land is so cheap or why it's not built up like baton rouge or new orleans? Did you believe that giant wall was built to protect your home from floods? No it was built to do exactly what it's doing now, flood the spillway! Now stop complaining and get moving before you look like the idiots in new orleans who forgot they live in a bowl! Good luck to you all and hope most of you found a ins company dumb enough to hive you flood ins.
Like I've said in previous post. All of Louisiana is practically a flood zone but not all of us live in the spillway that are being subjected to flooding. Don't be a jackass.

Since: May 11

Floyds Knobs, IN

#3 May 16, 2011
I say, let things run its course and if that means flooding Baton Rouge and NO, let it happen. I remember when Lake Cumberland was developed in KY, my home state. Poor farmers were given practiaclly pennies per acre and forced out of their homes for the better good of the region. Yes, the big dam was an important new source of electricity but the major goal was to draw in tourist trade which it did. Sadly, the small farmers did not have the skills to take advantage of this. Relocation and job training were not part of the "package". Ironicly, the dam was built improperly and could go anytime. The recent rains have put it at increased risk. The next stage of reconstruction is not scheduled until 2013. WHEN it blows, it will not just flood central KY. The flood will go all the way down into TN and destroy Nashville. This is not my fantasy but the findings of the U.S. Army corp of engineers.
guest

Wilmington, NC

#4 May 16, 2011
this water will affect people not located in the spillway when birds point was blown at new madrid mo(the second explosion) it put ALOT of water on tennessee completely flooded us out places that had not seen water before this
believe me the corp is not truthful and when its over and your flooded dont expect help cause it wont be there going through it now so i know
Whitney

Morgan City, LA

#5 May 16, 2011
@ goodforya you are a jackass. Some of us do not live in a flood plain but because of this are getting flooded. BTW if Baton ROuge is so freaking better than us then how come we are getting flooded in order to save them??? Oh and how come despite the fact we are getting the flood water meant for them, they are still getting pretty soggy???? Don't worry I will wait.
Just common sense

Lafayette, LA

#6 May 16, 2011
Lets add up the number of people that live in those areas being flooded (because of the spillway) and the areas in BR and NO. Hmmm, not to mention property value differences with refineries and more buidlings. I think we all see why BR and NO are being spared... Its not so far fetched. Agreed it does suck for others and I am sure I would be angry too.
cajun dude

United States

#7 May 16, 2011
goodforya wrote:
You live in a flood zone! The sole purpose for all that land is to be flooded in case of an emergency. Did you ever stop and think why the land is so cheap or why it's not built up like baton rouge or new orleans? Did you believe that giant wall was built to protect your home from floods? No it was built to do exactly what it's doing now, flood the spillway! Now stop complaining and get moving before you look like the idiots in new orleans who forgot they live in a bowl! Good luck to you all and hope most of you found a ins company dumb enough to hive you flood ins.
Apparently it was built to protect homes . People lived here before the levees was built. Also, if you think land here is cheap, bring your big pockets. I'm sure some will sell if your price is right. Last, you can compare us to any city. We will do as we need to survive unlike cities where someone( probably a Cajun), has to be at a corner to let city folks when they can cross the street. Was nice chatting with you. Have a good day.
cajun dude

United States

#8 May 16, 2011
Just common sense wrote:
Lets add up the number of people that live in those areas being flooded (because of the spillway) and the areas in BR and NO. Hmmm, not to mention property value differences with refineries and more buidlings. I think we all see why BR and NO are being spared... Its not so far fetched. Agreed it does suck for others and I am sure I would be angry too.
There was plans for several plants along the atchafalya river. The problem with that was it would take from b.r. and n.o.. They kept the river low so the big boats couldnt make it up the river.Then they built the interstate so that if the water did come up, it was too low for the boats to pads under.
Farmers daughter

Utica, KY

#10 May 16, 2011
goodforya wrote:
You live in a flood zone! The sole purpose for all that land is to be flooded in case of an emergency. Did you ever stop and think why the land is so cheap or why it's not built up like baton rouge or new orleans? Did you believe that giant wall was built to protect your home from floods? No it was built to do exactly what it's doing now, flood the spillway! Now stop complaining and get moving before you look like the idiots in new orleans who forgot they live in a bowl! Good luck to you all and hope most of you found a ins company dumb enough to hive you flood ins.
You are stupid if you think it's not all about politics my friend. Many of the people in those areas about to be flooded FEED this country. Through the years things were done (or left undone)in the name of politics and corporatism that left these areas more vulnerable in the spillway opening cenario.
You might want to look at KATRINA stats ..... New Orleans is a giant flood zone too! The difference is NOLA gets special treatment when it comes to levees and such.
The people of Terreboone parish were promised levees that would have helped some areas with this type of situation. These promised levees would have prevented the flooding from Hurricane Ike. They are still waiting!
Oh and Baton Rouge .... well the Gov lives there so you know BR is always going to be on the short lisst of "places to save".
straight up

United States

#11 May 16, 2011
Do we really have to argue about something we can't change? They opened the spillway to save cities. Now we, the ppl being flooded bc of that, just have to deal with it. It sucks but that's life. You pack your stuff, get the hell out of dodge, and hope for the best. And you move on. No one said it's gonna be easy or that it's fair but what's done is done. I hope the best for all and ppl please stop arguing. Aren't we all under enough stress already?!
Head

Austin, TX

#12 May 17, 2011
Not everyone who lives near the spillway is "poor." Not everyone living in Morganza, New Roads, St. Francisville, Port Allen, Baton Rouge, Brusly, Addis, Plaquemine, St. Gabriel, Carville, White Castle, Bayou Goula, Donaldsonville, Vacherie, Grammercy, Lutcher, Reserve, LaPlace, Hahnville, Destrahan, St. Rose, Kenner, River Ridge, Metairie, Westwego, Gretna, New Orleans, or Chalmette is "rich." It's not a matter of who has more money; it's a matter of what will save lives and minimize destruction. With the river level as it is, destruction is coming, regardless. That eliminates any easy choices.
Several media sources in south Louisiana released the potential inundation map illustrating Scenario 1, if Bonnet Carrie is opened 100% and Morganza at 50%. It's not at 50% now, more like 10%. If you're curious as to what would occur if Morganza was not opened, I suggest you google "inundation map Scenario 2," with Morganza at 0%. Everything east of the river from Baton Rouge to the Amite River would be under water, all the way to Lake Pontchartrain. Several areas west of the river would flood catastrophically also. And this would not be a gradual rising of water levels. This would potentially include levee failure, i.e. sudden unexpected massive loss of life, not just property.
Several members of my family have had to evacuate their homes along the Atchafalaya River, and they stand to lose all they have. I am prepared to help them rebuild if the worst happens. But they'll be alive to do it. Warnings have been issued about the water levels for some time now, allowing people to evacuate and survive this disaster. If anyone else can think of another way to navigate this crisis other than what is being done now, then let's come up with something. Blaming people for something Mother Nature does is pointless. And time and time again, Mother Nature reminds us that she doesn't owe anyone a damn thing.
Head

Austin, TX

#13 May 17, 2011
And goodforya does come off as an insensitive jackass. If it's so easy for people who live in a flood-prone area to just pick up and move, maybe he or she should consider the same, living in the tail end of Tornado Alley and all.
Whitney

Morgan City, LA

#15 May 17, 2011
I am so sick of people saying that ohh you shouldn't live in a flood zone or a hurricane zone. What about all the people who live in tsunami zone, earthquake zones, tornado alley, rock slide zones....hmmmm now that I think about it that way...that covers just about everyone in the country. This sucks....and just because we live in a sparsley populated area doesn't mean we are all broke. Some of just prefer to avoid the crime that comes with living in the city. Then you can take into account that all of this "poor people" lamd is mainly farm land that feeds the rest of the country....maybe its worth more than you originally thought.
john q public

AOL

#16 May 17, 2011
goodforya wrote:
You live in a flood zone! The sole purpose for all that land is to be flooded in case of an emergency. Did you ever stop and think why the land is so cheap or why it's not built up like baton rouge or new orleans? Did you believe that giant wall was built to protect your home from floods? No it was built to do exactly what it's doing now, flood the spillway! Now stop complaining and get moving before you look like the idiots in new orleans who forgot they live in a bowl! Good luck to you all and hope most of you found a ins company dumb enough to hive you flood ins.
Flood insurance is a federal government insurance program, not private. All insurance company's worth thier salt offer it.

“South Louisiana”

Since: Mar 11

very small

#17 May 17, 2011
I heard do not know if it's trun or not. That the insurance companies will not pay because it is a man made flood not nature. Has anyone else heard this?
Common Sense

United States

#18 May 17, 2011
Whitney wrote:
I am so sick of people saying that ohh you shouldn't live in a flood zone or a hurricane zone. What about all the people who live in tsunami zone, earthquake zones, tornado alley, rock slide zones....hmmmm now that I think about it that way...that covers just about everyone in the country. This sucks....and just because we live in a sparsley populated area doesn't mean we are all broke. Some of just prefer to avoid the crime that comes with living in the city. Then you can take into account that all of this "poor people" lamd is mainly farm land that feeds the rest of the country....maybe its worth more than you originally thought.
Hey Whitney you genius, live in a flood zone, a flood spillway, a hurricane zone, a tsunami alley, a tornado alley or a mud and or rock slide zone all you want. Nobody in America cares. We look forward reading about youwhen the big one comes knocking. Enjoy.

Since: May 11

Floyds Knobs, IN

#19 May 17, 2011
guest wrote:
this water will affect people not located in the spillway when birds point was blown at new madrid mo(the second explosion) it put ALOT of water on tennessee completely flooded us out places that had not seen water before this
believe me the corp is not truthful and when its over and your flooded dont expect help cause it wont be there going through it now so i know


I know my town will be untold feet under water when the dam blows. The water will go every direction and they might as well evacuate the entire state of KY. We won't get any warning or help.

“South Louisiana”

Since: Mar 11

very small

#20 May 17, 2011
Sorry to hear that!
Transplant 2000 wrote:
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I know my town will be untold feet under water when the dam blows. The water will go every direction and they might as well evacuate the entire state of KY. We won't get any warning or help.
Between Melville and KS

Carencro, LA

#21 May 17, 2011
Rentman1 wrote:
I heard do not know if it's trun or not. That the insurance companies will not pay because it is a man made flood not nature. Has anyone else heard this?
You have to look at your policy closely. If on the front page of your declarations page that flood coverage is provided, make sure you have the endorsement that goes with it. If the endorsement states that flooding is covered no matter how it occurs then you are covered whether it is man made or not.

“South Louisiana”

Since: Mar 11

very small

#22 May 17, 2011
Between Melville and KS wrote:
<quoted text>
You have to look at your policy closely. If on the front page of your declarations page that flood coverage is provided, make sure you have the endorsement that goes with it. If the endorsement states that flooding is covered no matter how it occurs then you are covered whether it is man made or not.
Thanks was just wondering if anyone had heard that.

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