Review: LTS Career Training

Review: LTS Career Training

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Perris, CA

#1 Mar 20, 2009
This school isn't really a school. If you get the right materials you could complete the same course work and pay a lot less. All of the lectures I had seen were just a repeat of what you read in the book. I went there for a while and was happy, but then I was trying to get one certification and they ended up changing the materials and I had to wait for the new ones to come in before I could finish the certification and come to find out that I had to start from the beginning again. That wasted a lot of my time. Then they would let me take some tests on Saturday and when I would go to take the same test for a different section that was the same length of time they told me that I couldn't do that. Also when I would take a test and if I didn't pass because I saw things on the test about whole concepts that I had never seen before I would just be told that I would always see things on those tests that I had never seen before. To me that sounds like an excuse for the instructors to not prepare you correctly or at least give you the material you need to prepare for it yourself.
Jeremy

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Jun 22, 2009
I enjoyed my Computer Certification Training with LTS Career Training. I was able to complete my A+, MCSA, and MCSE Certifications and currently working on my CCNA. They have up to date Labs where I was able to do tons of hands-on Training with the Certified Instructors in which I was able to Apply it to my current job. Oh yah the nice thing about this whole set up is they help you find a job in the IT field Half way thru the program. I am very Happy where I work and would refer anyone to attend LTS to obtain your CERTS and move on to a better career position. I love the Anytime Anwhere Training in which I can still keep my job and finish my Certs and be supported from beginning till end. GO LTS!!
Steve

Diamond Bar, CA

#3 Jun 22, 2009
I enrolled at LTS in the A+, MCSA and MCSE courses in October 2008. I am finished with the A+ and MCSA certifications, I have been working for a local hospital in the I.T. department for two and a half months and I have one more test to pass and I will have my MCSE. When I started school I was driving truck locally and my schedule was a mess. I wanted to go back to school for years but there was no way it was going to happen with my schedule. I did a ton of research and looked at several schools before deciding on LTS. I chose LTS because they could work around my schedule but the main iss the fact that they actually make sure you get certified. Every other school I talked to never even mentioned certification but every employer I talked to wants it. Before I enrolled I spoke with a couple of LTS graduates and sat in on a couple of classes which gave me the chance to talk to a bunch of students. I never heard a bad thing about the school before I enrolled or after I enrolled. Six months into my training I switched careers. They set me up 4 interviews and I had two offers within 3 weeks. This course requires dedication and commitment, as long as you have those two things you can do it. It changed my life. I am a living, breathing commercial. I enrolled, got certified, got trained and changed careers and my brother started the same program 3 months ago. He already has his A+ and MCP!!
Temec IT

Diamond Bar, CA

#4 Jun 22, 2009
I completed the program at LTS in 8 months. I was told that most people do it in 10 months. I worked harder and moved faster thru the courses and when I was done I had the A+,MCP,MCSA,MCSE and CCNA Certifications. After I was done with the training I got a job working for a local casino making a lot more then I was making as the sales manager at a used car dealership. 4 months after I took that job I quit and went to work for a different casino making 10K more a year. I won't lie, I.T. certification training is tough but LTS makes sure you get certified. They are the only school I could find that certification is part of the program. I finished the program certified and capable of doing the job. I would refer anybody that wants to get into the I.T. Industry to this program. My sister, my best friend, and my nephew are all enrolled in the same training I did. Great labs, great lectures, great instructors, great training. When I did the training I had to drive to Riverside, now they have a training center in Temecula. Wish that would have happened sooner!!
ReVeLaTeD

San Diego, CA

#5 Oct 4, 2009
Everyone, BE CAREFUL of this company. They went by the name "Laptop Training Solutions" in the early 2k. A simple Google Search will reveal the deal on this scam of a company. The price they charge you is seriously inflated and they're a fly-by-night deal that could shut down at any time. Before, they essentially got sued into flight.

Since the STRF program is in flux, it means you will lose thousands of dollars if they go down again. Don't do this!

http://www.google.com/search...
Student

Menifee, CA

#6 Dec 21, 2009
Temec IT wrote:
I completed the program at LTS in 8 months. I was told that most people do it in 10 months. I worked harder and moved faster thru the courses and when I was done I had the A+,MCP,MCSA,MCSE and CCNA Certifications. After I was done with the training I got a job working for a local casino making a lot more then I was making as the sales manager at a used car dealership. 4 months after I took that job I quit and went to work for a different casino making 10K more a year. I won't lie, I.T. certification training is tough but LTS makes sure you get certified. They are the only school I could find that certification is part of the program. I finished the program certified and capable of doing the job. I would refer anybody that wants to get into the I.T. Industry to this program. My sister, my best friend, and my nephew are all enrolled in the same training I did. Great labs, great lectures, great instructors, great training. When I did the training I had to drive to Riverside, now they have a training center in Temecula. Wish that would have happened sooner!!
HA HA HA HA
No one has completed the course the school was not ready for the CCNA student so don't lie!!!!!!
And about there "Job placement" That is a joke to!!!!!!
Run Away

Syracuse, UT

#7 Mar 25, 2010
This school was a big disapointment. They will rip you off. I tried it when they were in Utah and they screwed over all of the students. They did have one good instructor for a short time and he was smart and left before any lawsuits started. Don't let them talk you into signing up. You will be left in the dark and there will be no real instruction. They also made promises that they never intended to keep. The people they helped in their programs to get their MCSE were their friends and they allowed them to take the tests open book, and open practice tests. The camera they had in their testing center was not even turned on. They might be a better and wiser company now, but just be aware that they do have a past that is very shady.
Sign up and do the work

United States

#8 Aug 1, 2010
I attended the Riverside campus and completed my training within 12 months. I am now working in the computer field and very happy. In that 12 months I saw students come and go, some do the the work and some just lazy. If you do the work you can get certified. I was able to get help from the instructors when needed and the pretesting was challenging. There is one instructor that is very strict and comes across harsh but is very knowledgable that I learned a lot from. I heard students complain but they were the ones that showed up to school once a week for an hour. When I found LTS I had researched several schools that were a joke and are closed today but LTS is still open and getting people certified. I have never taken a test at LTS that was open book especially not an official test. When I tested they wouldn't let me take anything in the room and took my phone from me too. There was a school called Laptop Training Solutions that closed in San Diego and there was bad stuff said about the owner but if Riverside was a bad place, why are they still certifying people? Seriously, some of the stuff said in the above reviews sounds like angry students that couldn't do the work. The bottom line is if you do the work, you will get certified! LTS is a good place to learn. And the staff are really cool people so I am surprised to see such harsh reviews.
Johnny

Colton, CA

#9 Aug 3, 2010
ReVeLaTeD wrote:
Everyone, BE CAREFUL of this company. They went by the name "Laptop Training Solutions" in the early 2k. A simple Google Search will reveal the deal on this scam of a company. The price they charge you is seriously inflated and they're a fly-by-night deal that could shut down at any time. Before, they essentially got sued into flight.
Since the STRF program is in flux, it means you will lose thousands of dollars if they go down again. Don't do this!
http://www.google.com/search...
Hey Man,
Did you have any problems with this company? I am having major issues with them right now, can I get your contact info?
Johnny

Colton, CA

#10 Aug 3, 2010
Hey Man,
Did you have any problems with this company? I am having major issues with them right now, can I get your contact info?
Bryan

Menifee, CA

#11 Aug 9, 2010
The class is based on CBT - Computer Based Training that can be purchased for a lot (and I emphasis a lot) less directly from the vendor. The CBT at the center are definately infringing on licensing issues. You will get a legit copy for your laptop though.

Those brief lectures are instructed my former/current students with minimal knowledge of the IT industry. There is one solid training and he is from the Riverside campus. I'll give them that! The rest snaps at you when you ask any question. They hate to be bothered!

They use ancient simulations exams from Transcender and MeasureUp + they use ActualTests simulation exams which are 110% illegal!!!! Those Transcender and MeasureUp exams also violate licensing.

Unless you have a lot of experience in the industry, there is possitively no way you can complete this in 8 months. Even if you do not work and have all the free time in the world. They don't have any CCNA certified instructors. They barely have CCNA testing equipments. They don't have any CISSP certified instructors, that also goes for Novell, Linux+, etc. They don't have live lecture on those subjects so you'll be watching CBTs. Their MOS instructors are on the job learning as they teach.

There career placement is not existent. Goodluck with that. There job postings include temporary weekend jobs if they have one.
Jeff

Los Angeles, CA

#12 Sep 20, 2010
The same obvious plant from LTS is going around posting the same 8 month miracle training completion and dream job placement story everywhere. LTS is an extremely shady operation run by a family of Mormons (the Bostoks). The father died of a heart attack at Pole Position in Corona and the middle brother (Mike) took over. The oldest brother got tired of the family and left for the east coast. The youngest (Eric) is a completely useless retard with a very bad attitude problem when dealing with students. There is ONE CCNA certified instructor for the whole operation and he admits to failing the test the first time he took it (XP Lectures: Subnetting). That's Ben, the anti social computer science geek that used to work for Orange County, in charge of the "instructors". LTS pays their employees very low wages, demands long hours, strict obedience to Mike, Ben or Phil (the fat biker you hear on the Docs computer repair commercials) at all costs, and they require a laundry list of certs that no one in their right mind would accept a 40K a year salary for. They posted a job listing back in 09 for a second instructor at the Temecula facility. Ridiculous. It even included the words "If you're lazy or don't like too work hard, don't bother applying". Sounds like a great company, doesn't it?
As for the training itself, good luck. When I started there were 2 recent MCSA's moving on to MCSE. A year and half later when I finally gave up on that black hole of a "school", those same two students were JUST getting started on CCNA. One of them (the smarter one) found a decent, over night job on his own, the other was still wearing dingy clothes, driving a beat up mini van and looking for work. The job placement is non existent. The program is based on memorizing the answers for the tests and then taking them again and again till you pass so they can brag about how many people pass the tests at their facility. They use "actual tests.com " to download copies of the tests for the students to memorize. The labs are outdated and use bizarre concepts like using a server as its own router, among other things. The IT pros that go there to get their certs are usually appalled by what they find. That place is a revolving door of desperate individuals trying to find that golden promise Mike gives them in his aggressive sales pitch about making SO MUCH MONEY when you complete the course. It's all a lie, all a sham designed to attract the down trodden and unemployed and lure them in with huge promises that will never be fulfilled. Ultimately, you'll leave in debt and no where better job wise.
TL;DR STAY AWAY FROM LTS. Go to college, get a real education, find a job on your own. LTS will NOT help you in any way.
And that's the bottom line..........
Steve

Los Angeles, CA

#13 Oct 1, 2010
Jeff, I have to say that out of all of the reviews yours is definitely the most focused on attacking people. I have a question for you, I am student at LTS in Temecula. Sounds like you went to the same school. I started the program 3 months ago, I have passed both tests for the A+ certification and I just passed my MCP certification on Monday. I went thru the training by following the syllabus that Eric gave me (who by the way was really nice to me) and feel like I am very ready to pass the test. More importantly I feel like I am trained to do the job. I never saw the testing you are referring to and I wasn't allowed to start the testing portion of the training until I had completed all of the labs and passed the hands-on practicums they require. I also worked with several different instructors who all have certifications and most of them have the Microsoft Certified Trainer certificate posted behind their desk. I have met Ben a couple of times when he is at the Temecula school working with the other instructor Matt and the CCNA students on the CCNA labs and I didn't notice the "anti-social computer geek" you are refering too. By the way, all the instructors seem to really like doing what their doing, more power to them there is no way I could do it. I am not working so I am at school every day for a couple of hours and every day I am there I see 3 or 4 students taking and passing certification tests. I did my research, I know there are no other schools that prepare you to pass the test. Also, in the last 3 months I have met at least 20 students that got I.T. jobs because of their training and are still finishing school and I have met several I.T. professionals that are there getting their certifications and swear by the training because they don't have to wait for slower students. I have never heard of one single student quiting, granted I haven't been here that long but I can't imagine why anyone would quit which leads me to my question. Why did you give up? You make it sound easy, just memorize test questions and get certified, what certifications did you get by doing it this way? Did you get a job? My experience has been completely different then every thing you have said but if it was the way you are saying it is, every single student would pass. I am sure that not everyone is cut out for this like Mike says but from what I have seen it is doable if you put in the time. I am proof so far. So what is the rest of your story?
Mark

Los Angeles, CA

#14 Oct 1, 2010
Johnny wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Man,
Did you have any problems with this company? I am having major issues with them right now, can I get your contact info?
That was a school in San Diego owned by Matt Kolesar and he had a location in Vista and in Utah. Not the same school.
Mark

Los Angeles, CA

#15 Oct 1, 2010
Run Away wrote:
This school was a big disapointment. They will rip you off. I tried it when they were in Utah and they screwed over all of the students. They did have one good instructor for a short time and he was smart and left before any lawsuits started. Don't let them talk you into signing up. You will be left in the dark and there will be no real instruction. They also made promises that they never intended to keep. The people they helped in their programs to get their MCSE were their friends and they allowed them to take the tests open book, and open practice tests. The camera they had in their testing center was not even turned on. They might be a better and wiser company now, but just be aware that they do have a past that is very shady.
That was a school owned by Matt Kolesar and DAT Technologies, he also had a schoo in San Diego and Vista. The school in Riverside and Temecula has different owners.
Mark

Los Angeles, CA

#16 Oct 1, 2010
ReVeLaTeD wrote:
Everyone, BE CAREFUL of this company. They went by the name "Laptop Training Solutions" in the early 2k. A simple Google Search will reveal the deal on this scam of a company. The price they charge you is seriously inflated and they're a fly-by-night deal that could shut down at any time. Before, they essentially got sued into flight.
Since the STRF program is in flux, it means you will lose thousands of dollars if they go down again. Don't do this!
http://www.google.com/search...
Laptop Training Solutions was a school in San Diego owned by Matt Kolesar. He also had a school in Vista and in Ogden Utah.
Riverside Student

Yucaipa, CA

#17 Oct 2, 2010
Holy toledo, sounds like some students who couldn't do the work are trying to make the school look bad and lying to do it. I attend Riverside and I feel like I am progressing well and think that I will be done within the time alotted or shortly after. I have worked with all of the instructors including the one instructor Ben mentioned above which he has helped me a lot and is very smart. Ben might not have the "I will hold your hand" attitude and I even butted heads with him at first but I understand his technique, needing to be able to think for myself, and find the answers I need. Imagine never doing the footwork, having everything handed to you, and then getting a job where one might need to find an answer to something but there is no Ben there to answer that question, what happens then? All of the other instructors and assistant instructors are ready to help as well but even they don't just hand you the answers. I think that the bad reviews by people fail to realize that this isn't a traditional school and not sure why they are mad at the company to attack a really nice family that run this business. Ok, it may not be a perfect school but it is the best school that I have found in my search and not many schools like it with the flexibility. The bottom line is if you do the training the way LTS has it laid out you are going to get certified. I have faith that I will land a good job and have an interview next week from a lead that LTS gave me with just my A+ and MCP.
Thank you LTS!
Amber

Riverside, CA

#18 Oct 4, 2010
I very Happy with this school. I started 3 months ago, I am working on my Business Office Application Specialist and have already finished and Certified in Microsoft WORD, EXCEL, and ACCESS. The great thing about this is I am certified right now. I think that is why students come here to school is to get Certified. I honestly believe it looks really good on your Resume because I have had more job opportunities then I have ever had. I would trust this school. It really is the best option out there to become certified. Just show up and do the work, work with the instructors and good things happen.
Jedi Master Yoda

Los Angeles, CA

#19 Oct 4, 2010
INDUSTRY INSIDER TELLS ALL!(Part 1)
Hi Folks,
My name is Ben Butler. I am the Director of Education for the LTS Computer Training Academy. After a concerned student came to me, upset from reading some of the things that have been posted on a couple of these review boards, I deemed it necessary to post some factual information about the schools on these sites to help any students past, present and prospective to be able to make an objective and fair decision regarding our schools.
I would like to first ask you, the reader, to appeal to your sense of logic and reason. Do take with a grain of salt any reviews that seem overly emotional. It seems to me that these are people that reacted to something before they thought about what they were doing. Regarding any slanderous comments about myself or any of the staff at either of our schools, they hold no weight with us nor do they truly give an accurate or true picture of the LTS Computer Training Academy educational experience. Furthermore, it is generally considered an act of cowardice to post anonymously attacks on a person’s character as not to suffer any penalty therefore lending even less credibility to these claims. If their complaints truly had any grounds, we maintain an open door policy that enables us to resolve issues in a civil and collegial manner. That door is always open.
The LTS Computer Training Academy is a privately owned corporation that has been in business for over ten years with the Main Campus in Riverside and a Training Center in Temecula, it has never been located anywhere else. To clear up some misconceptions, there was a school called Laptop Training Solutions in San Diego and Vista owned by Matt Kolesar that closed down in 2004. Matt Kolesar was a vendor for our training materials and for a short time Mike Bostock (currently the Director of our school) was an employee of Matt Kolesar. Because the schools are independently owned and operated we were able to cut the loose affiliation that we had with those schools in late 2003 after we found the owner of those schools was guilty of unscrupulous business practices. We became or own vendor and we severed that very loose tie to preserve our good reputation and good standing in the community. In early 2003, I had a long talk with Mike and he told me that many of the things that were being done at that school did not sit well with him to the point of making him physically ill, when they tried to involve him into these activities, he resigned and came to work full-time for our school. He promised me that our schools would never be run like those schools and he has held true to his promise.
As a result of the ugliness of 2004 in Southern California that many vocational schools created in the industry, we’ve strived to maintain the highest standards of quality and professionalism. We are a member, in good standing, with the Better Business Bureau and the California Board of Consumer Affairs. We are also an official CompTIA Academy and Microsoft IT Academy, and follow curricular standards laid down by Microsoft itself and we are currently a Candidate for Federal Accreditation. I, personally, am on the school’s Board of Advisors, who works with the community, current employers of our graduates, perspective employers and the alumni of the school to ensure that the school is preparing the students for the real world experience and continually catering to the IT staffing needs of this industry. In fact, several professionals that have employed our students have commented to us on how well our students carry themselves and can hold their own both in technical proficiency and professionalism.
Jedi Master Yoda

Los Angeles, CA

#20 Oct 4, 2010
Industry Insider Tells All!(Part 2)

We open our doors to people of all walks of life and all levels of skill. We believe that everyone is worthy of the opportunity to get an education, attain certification and have a better life. Whether you are well-privileged or downtrodden, a Career Changer or I.T. Professional, you are welcome at our school. We work with several organizations including the Employment Development Department (EDD), Department of Rehabilitation (DOR), Workforce Investment Act (WIA), Veterans Administration (VA), Department of Labor (DOL) etc… as well as several student loan agencies and we even have in-house financing for those in need. On top of our general student population we’ve successfully trained people with mental and physical disabilities and helped them to become viable members of the workforce and find their place in society. In short, we provide hope in a time and an economy where hope is in short supply.
We are a corporation whose operation is based in the strongest of family values. As part of our educational process we work to instill good values in our students (honesty, integrity, self-motivation, accountability, etc.) We find that most of our students already have these qualities and our staff is encouraged to nurture them as to let them grow and flourish. Our instructors are always encouraged to invest in a student’s potential and to help them bring it out in themselves. With an understanding of that, the student knows that they must do the hard work, which will get them to the next level. I think of it as offering a hand up, not a hand out. Just as we would list in a job posting we would also list in our catalog, if you are lazy or afraid of hard work, you need not apply. However, by following our program, putting in the time and working hard you will open up an unlimited supply of opportunities.
Addressing a couple of issues in the posts…
Regarding our materials… We provide top notch computer based training, hands-on labs, instructor led workshops, certification specific lectures and onsite testing services. We target our demographic to the working individual that doesn’t have the time or resources to be anchored to a brick and mortar school building. We do have a requirement of hours per week in one of our facilities for hands-on training, lecture attendance and so our instructors can check on the progress of the student and provide avenues to ensure forward progress and success in their studies. True, you can get the study materials for cheaper than the school provides if that was all you were purchasing, but understand that you are not just paying for the course materials. You are paying for access to our facilities, our instructor’s services, testing fees w/pass assurance, lectures, support system and things like that. We make our schools and instructors available to students six days a week and you are welcome in the facility as long or as often as you need. I actually went to a school in which the students had to rent lab time by the hour. I challenge anyone who has never gotten a certification before to simply buy the course work and try to get a certification. You’ll find that 9.9 out of 10 people can’t do it, weren’t able to get the certification, did not achieve career level training or ended up spending more money in the long run.

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