Dog's owners hope to change state rab...

Dog's owners hope to change state rabies shot law

There are 25 comments on the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin story from Oct 7, 2009, titled Dog's owners hope to change state rabies shot law. In it, Inland Valley Daily Bulletin reports that:

California residents are required by state law to get their dogs vaccinated for rabies, but Sam and Cecilia Gadd are refusing to do so - they fear the shots could kill their pet.

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Penny

Toronto, Canada

#1 Oct 7, 2009
It sounds like the Gadd's dog is suffering from the same disease I lost my dog to, Auto-immune hemolitic anemia. If they read this post I hope they will find their way to a great support board.
http://www.vetnet.co.uk/
People posting there from all over the world with dogs sticken with this disease feel the same way, that over vaccinating our dogs does bring this on. Also see Dr. Jean Dodds of Garden Grove Rabies challenge information at Hemopet.Org
Read the research of rabies incidents involving dogs in the last 50 years and you will find very few cases. The law must be changed.
Concerned

Boron, CA

#2 Oct 7, 2009
If you don't want to obey this law, then give up the dog to an adoption service.

Laws control our society. Without them, we're no better than a 3rd world nation.

Put the rest of the pet owner's interests above your own, and stop thinking you have a "right" to an exemption.
Interesting

Rowland Heights, CA

#3 Oct 8, 2009
I have often wondered why we humans only have to get one booster shot for a specific virus or disease and are covered for life.

Why do animals have to keep repeating the shots?

Current statistics show that one in three dogs life ends short, due to Cancer!

Could there be a connection?
Gia

Lancaster, OH

#4 Oct 8, 2009
Why not a compromise - provide an exemption if the owner providers documenation of a rabies titer blood test in lieu of the vaccine.
Informed

United States

#5 Oct 8, 2009
Concerned, I recommend you actually educate yourself before you make such a painful statement to give up their dog. 50% of pets diagnosed with this disease die. The treatment is devastating both physically for the animal and emotionally and financially draining on the owners. The best step is like Gia posted, Titers. This will show the level of antibodies in the blood for all diseases from previous vaccines. There is big money involved for the companies that make the drugs so they of course want things to stay the way they are. If you think our Government always has our best interests in mind I suggest you read your newspaper, watch your t.v. and maybe open your eyes.
BerdooWatch

Oxnard, CA

#6 Oct 8, 2009
It is factually true that a dog(s), especially older dogs can get very sick and potentially die from vaccinations. We can "what if" everything to death, but u will never completely solve or develop a resolution for everything. Dogs that have had auto-immune disease are very prone to illness or death from the shots.

I to have a dog who had the auto immune disease where the red blood cells were attacked by the white blood cells. THe medical treatment for such a disease is not cheap.....by the time it was all over, I spent $4,500. Once she recovered, because of her age and the disease, the Vet said to no longer give the annual shots for it could make her ill again or worse, kill her.

There needs to be more available options for exceptions than the 30-90 periods, that's a joke.
Dave in Crafton Hills

Chino Hills, CA

#7 Oct 8, 2009
The reporter should have asked Humane Society Executive Director Bill Harford when the last rabid bat or skunk was found in San Bernardino County.

It's been a while. A LONG while. A VERY long while.

Maybe a better *what if* would have been "what if your dog sees Bigfoot?".
BerdooWatch

Oxnard, CA

#8 Oct 8, 2009
Concerned wrote:
If you don't want to obey this law, then give up the dog to an adoption service.
Laws control our society. Without them, we're no better than a 3rd world nation.
Put the rest of the pet owner's interests above your own, and stop thinking you have a "right" to an exemption.
Wow, this is intelligent...geez, get a life. So what ur saying is that anything Nanny Government comes up with we shall obey no matter what cause they know what's best for us little people. Ur theory fits right in with Socialism. We have every reason to question, work to change, correct and fight against useless laws, restrictions, etc... it's We The People, not the government. I bet u believe, other than it being a tax, that there is a reason for a dog license, huh. Go back to Russia where u belong.
What the F-

Ontario, CA

#9 Oct 8, 2009
Dave in Crafton Hills wrote:
The reporter should have asked Humane Society Executive Director Bill Harford when the last rabid bat or skunk was found in San Bernardino County.
It's been a while. A LONG while. A VERY long while.
Maybe a better *what if* would have been "what if your dog sees Bigfoot?".
I think you're wrong. Rabies are found consistantly in the bat and skunk population...they are CARRIERS! When Humane finds a rabid bat or skunk, I don't believe they have to make a public notice out of that fact, hence...we may THINK it's been a long time since the Rabies virus has been found, but I doubt it. Keeping your pets free from this FATAL disease is good enough for me and my pets...I will ALWAYS vaccinate!
bch

Downey, CA

#10 Oct 8, 2009
sounds like your world is black & white, cut & dry.

sorry.

these people have a legitimate concern.

we don't need to side with a man-made *law* that hurts our best friends...our animals.

this issue deserves looking into. our friends deserve that, at the very least.

<3 ONE LOVE
Concerned wrote:
If you don't want to obey this law, then give up the dog to an adoption service.
Laws control our society. Without them, we're no better than a 3rd world nation.
Put the rest of the pet owner's interests above your own, and stop thinking you have a "right" to an exemption.
SHADDAP

Crestline, CA

#11 Oct 8, 2009
Dave in Crafton Hills wrote:
The reporter should have asked Humane Society Executive Director Bill Harford when the last rabid bat or skunk was found in San Bernardino County.
It's been a while. A LONG while. A VERY long while.
Maybe a better *what if* would have been "what if your dog sees Bigfoot?".
Most finds of rabid bats/skunks are not made public. To enlighten you, there was a lady bitten by a rabid bat in Crestline.

LAST WEEK!!

Not such a 'long while', is it?
Caring FurDad

Halifax, Canada

#12 Oct 8, 2009
Feel free to move up to beautiful Canada where rabies vacs are NOT mandatory! I also have a dog dealing with an auto-immune disease and she'll never have another vacination again so long as we both live. I completely understand the cause of concern with this law and it should and has to be changed.
What the F-

Ontario, CA

#13 Oct 8, 2009
SHADDAP wrote:
<quoted text>
Most finds of rabid bats/skunks are not made public. To enlighten you, there was a lady bitten by a rabid bat in Crestline.
LAST WEEK!!
Not such a 'long while', is it?
My point exactly! Thanks.
Resident

Boron, CA

#14 Oct 8, 2009
What a bunch of hooey! You think you're all so "special" because you own a pet? I've had dogs and cats all my life. Each and every one always had their shots, on time.

Do you also think you have the right to speed down a freeway, because you're late to work? Hey, why you're at it, why stop for a red light? People have been hurt when stopped for a red light, so next time, just drive on through!

Some of you really do demonstrate your lack of respect to our nation's laws, along with your lack of intelligence.

Owing a pet requires a responsible owner. Do you license your dogs and cats, or does the double standard apply to you there, also?
Emily

Pittsburgh, PA

#15 Oct 8, 2009
California state law already includes a medical exemption for pets regarding the rabies vaccination (and this exemption is NOT NEW). The law covering pets and rabies vaccinations in California is called "Compendium of Rabies Control and Prevention, 2004" (available on the California Department of Public Health's rabies page, click on "CA Rabies Compendium,2004" to download the document):

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/HEALTHINFO/DISCOND/Pag...

From Part I on page 6 of the Compendium is this language:

"6. Rabies Immunization Exemptions:

A rabies immunization exemption may be issued by the local health officer upon the written recommendation of a California-licensed veterinarian where illness or a veterinary medical condition in a dog warrants. The exempted animal shall be maintained in strict rabies isolation, under conditions that are at the discretion of the local health officer, until such time as the medical condition has resolved, and the animal can be rabies immunized."

California state law clearly allows for a medical exemption, so why isn't the Inland Valley Humane Society following the law? If the dog owners have a written statement from their dog's veterinarian, and from the article it sounds as if they do, why hasn't this matter already been resolved and the dog been given a license? The dog has a medical exemption for rabies vaccination.

Little children who have had serious reactions to vaccines aren't forced to take another nor do doctors of immune-comprised adults insist on vaccinations that would put their patients' lives at risk.

This is a very sensible law that California has for pets, with plenty of safeguards in it, and the Humane Society should abide by it.
Emily

Pittsburgh, PA

#16 Oct 9, 2009
SHADDAP wrote:
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Most finds of rabid bats/skunks are not made public. To enlighten you, there was a lady bitten by a rabid bat in Crestline.
LAST WEEK!!
Not such a 'long while', is it?
What? That is certainly not the case. Just go here:

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/HEALTHINFO/DISCOND/Pag...

The California Department of Public Health gathers data and makes it available to the public on its website. You can even check data going back years for the various counties in the state. Just look at all these reports available (download using above URL):

Reported Animal Rabies, 1997-2006
Reported Animal Rabies, 2007
Reported Animal Rabies, 2008
Reported Animal Rabies, 2009 Provisional

These reports list rabid animals found by county for all those years, with numbers of each type of animal. Hmm, not a SINGLE case of a rabid skunk in Los Angeles or San Bernardino counties going all the way back to 1997. None for Riverside county either.

So why wasn't the executive director of the Inland Valley Humane Society aware of this information? This quote in the article, "What if that one dog that lives in Chino Hills came in contact with a rabid bat or a rabid skunk and contracted rabies and then bit a baby at a local playground?" he said" He's suggesting contact with a rabid skunk when there haven't been ANY found by the state in over 10 years in LA or San Bernardino counties? Then the bats. Is he suggesting the Gadd's live in a batcave? Give me a break! If their DOG were at great risk of being bitten by a bat SO WOULD THEY. Is he recommending the whole family get rabies shots because of bats in Chino Hills? In their HOUSE? I mean how likely is that? Bat contact is possible but just how realistic is it in this situation? Hint--just keep the dog inside, that would remove the chance of contact. If there even are any in their neighborhood.
Gia

Lancaster, OH

#17 Oct 9, 2009
It sounds like the CA exemption is a temporary exemption, this situation is likely to be permanent. What constitues 'strict rabies isolation' may vary from region to region, but where I come from that means the animal must be kennelled or crated virtually 100% of the time, and then again it is a temporary situation, from 30 to 180 days. Eventually the dog must be given the vaccine. The county may require all 'strict rabies isolation' be done by a third party since the animal's owner is not exactly a disinterested party and compliance would probably be a problem.
Emily

Pittsburgh, PA

#18 Oct 9, 2009
Sorry, but the law does NOT state a time limit. It is up to the vet who wrote the letter and is treating the dog and dealing with the medical condition the dog has. The dog might never be able to get the rabies vaccine. It depends upon the health of the dog when or if that dog is ever healthy enough to receive the vaccine. The health of the dog is determined by a veterinarian, as the law states. The law also does not specify the dog has to be crated nor kennelled, just strict rabies isolation. It really depends on the situation how it is done. However, it is very easy to accomplish. Just fyi, but in other cases strict rabies isolation is permitted at home.

I will let you know that I am personally aware of multiple dogs who have gotten the exemption. One of those dogs was mine. One guess which humane society issued the license--upon presentation of a letter from my dog's veterinarian. The letter complied with the law. The license was issued on the spot.
Jeannette in California

United States

#19 Jan 26, 2010
You don't own a dog, cat or any other animal, do you? And I would bet you are not married either! If you have nothing nice or helpful to say, you should keep it to yourself!
Concerned wrote:
If you don't want to obey this law, then give up the dog to an adoption service.
Laws control our society. Without them, we're no better than a 3rd world nation.
Put the rest of the pet owner's interests above your own, and stop thinking you have a "right" to an exemption.
dog rights

Milledgeville, GA

#20 Oct 15, 2010
Look under rabies vaccination.
In some states you can still give the rabies vaccination.
Here's a shocker for you: the actual 3 – Years Rabies shot contains the same contains the same drug and is given in the same amount as the 1-year Rabies shot.
The only difference is the label on the bottle indicating
1-year vs. 3-year.
It's done that way purely to satisfy State Law.
The Veterinarians just charge more (it is the same.)
Is that not false advertisment?
Note most people due not know that Rabies vaccine is made from killed rabies virus.
It cannot cause rabies

We should be able to give the rabies vac our self. Older dogs due not due good in vets office's. I have seen 3 older dogs die from heart attacts after going to the Vets office.

Other dogs are sometimes hard to get to the veterinarians.
For one animals can be to large and some animals do not due good with other animals or people. My dog won't eat for a weak after he goes to the vet.
It is hard for older or handicaped people that can't drive to get there pets to the vet.
I belive that more people would give there dogs rabies shot if it was legale.

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