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What Have You Ever Done For The City of Moreno Valley?

There are 47 comments on the story from May 26, 2010, titled What Have You Ever Done For The City of Moreno Valley?. In it, reports that:

That is a question which seems to be ever popular by those in support of Highland Fairview's Iddo Benzeevi. We have heard this question posed by Iddo Benzeevi, planning Commissioner Michael Geller, as well as councilmember's Molina, Hastings, Batey and now Richard Stewart.

This same question has been directed at any individual who dares step before the Moreno Valley city council, in opposition to any issue which is connected in any way to Highland Fairview or Iddo Benzeevi himself, by other members of the public who routinely speak on behalf of Mr. Benzeevi, such as members of The Mexican Political Association, The Moreno Valley Parents Association, and Delbert (Raul) Wilson, Moreno Valley school board member Victoria Baca, her daughter Elena Santa Cruz, Pete Bleckert, as well as Librada Murillo just to name a few.

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Since: Apr 10

Moreno valley

#42 May 31, 2010
Liberal JIm wrote:
Peaches and... I don't want one opinion. All I said was that you cant have a "debate" if only one opinion is allowed. To have a debate you need differences on an issue. Sir Gordon wrote that only ONE opinion is allowed. Do you understand that?
And, as a matter of fact, peaches and cream with a little sugar on top might not be delicious. That's YOUR opinion but not a fact.
Did you know that 3rd grade students learn to distinguish between fact and opinion.
That's what MVG does not seem to understand. That there is a big difference between facts and opinion. And on this site if we don't agree with Gordon, sorry for being rude, we are all called Alicia Espinoza or worse. Whoever that woman might be. So go ahead and start the name calling.
Jim, Jim, I wore a tie today, the first tie that I ever wore......

“Citizens first.”

Since: Oct 08

Moreno Valley

#43 May 31, 2010
Liberal JIm wrote:
Peaches and... I don't want one opinion. All I said was that you cant have a "debate" if only one opinion is allowed. To have a debate you need differences on an issue. Sir Gordon wrote that only ONE opinion is allowed. Do you understand that?
And, as a matter of fact, peaches and cream with a little sugar on top might not be delicious. That's YOUR opinion but not a fact.
Did you know that 3rd grade students learn to distinguish between fact and opinion.
That's what MVG does not seem to understand. That there is a big difference between facts and opinion. And on this site if we don't agree with Gordon, sorry for being rude, we are all called Alicia Espinoza or worse. Whoever that woman might be. So go ahead and start the name calling.
I think I should address you. First off you questions are asinine, and the question on debate and opinion was already asked and answered.

You stated that: "Sir Gordon wrote that only ONE opinion is allowed."

However that is not the case, here is what was said (the first time):
"This isn't a school but a place for debate, and or expression of one opinion. If it is classroom training you seek look somewhere else." And as clarified that was to be ones opinion and not one.

If you read that, nowhere does it state that only one opinion is "ALLOWED."

Again you misstated things like this: "And, as a matter of fact, peaches and cream with a little sugar on top might not be delicious. That's YOUR opinion but not a fact."

However that is not what she said at all. This is her statement:
"Liberal Jim- You want ONE opinion? I have one for you. Peaches and cream is delicious with a little sugar sprinkled on top."

"How is that for ONE opinion:)"

As for debate, you haven't even entered into any debate on this article, or any article on this site. All you have done is engage in sarcastic B.S., how far do you think that will get you?

But like I said this isn't a school or a class on grammar if it was, your grade wouldn't be all that much better.

Here we don't care how you spell it or say it. Now I guess here comes a little name calling. Ass holes like you just have nothing better to do because in a real debate you couldn't hit your own ass with either hand.

Now join the real debate, or continue to act like that Alicia bitch and soon enough you will be identifies as her, regardless of who you may be.

Since: Apr 10

Moreno valley

#44 Jun 1, 2010
mvgordie wrote:
<quoted text>
I think I should address you. First off you questions are asinine, and the question on debate and opinion was already asked and answered.
You stated that: "Sir Gordon wrote that only ONE opinion is allowed."
However that is not the case, here is what was said (the first time):
"This isn't a school but a place for debate, and or expression of one opinion. If it is classroom training you seek look somewhere else." And as clarified that was to be ones opinion and not one.
If you read that, nowhere does it state that only one opinion is "ALLOWED."
Get some Gordie! Get some! Iagree with you.
Get some Gordie! get some! I agree with you!
Again you misstated things like this: "And, as a matter of fact, peaches and cream with a little sugar on top might not be delicious. That's YOUR opinion but not a fact."
However that is not what she said at all. This is her statement:
"Liberal Jim- You want ONE opinion? I have one for you. Peaches and cream is delicious with a little sugar sprinkled on top."
"How is that for ONE opinion:)"
As for debate, you haven't even entered into any debate on this article, or any article on this site. All you have done is engage in sarcastic B.S., how far do you think that will get you?
But like I said this isn't a school or a class on grammar if it was, your grade wouldn't be all that much better.
Here we don't care how you spell it or say it. Now I guess here comes a little name calling. Ass holes like you just have nothing better to do because in a real debate you couldn't hit your own ass with either hand.
Now join the real debate, or continue to act like that Alicia bitch and soon enough you will be identifies as her, regardless of who you may be.
Get some Gordie! Get some! Iagree with you.

Since: Apr 10

Moreno valley

#45 Jun 1, 2010
Oh crap... I forgot a space between i and agree...here comes the grammar police!

Since: Oct 09

SoCal

#46 Jun 1, 2010
Er... ahh... shouldn't we keep this discussion thread a bit more ABOVE average? Stick to the TOPIC . We thank you.

“Citizens first.”

Since: Oct 08

Moreno Valley

#47 Jun 1, 2010
Jummaster and VigiantOne,

I'm in full agreement with the both of you. Like I have said, this isn't school or a spelling bee, we all make mistakes, and who cares....

So let's Debate!

I haven't done a damn thing for this city. I haven't paid for one Iraq or Afghanistan veteran's eye surgery, nor have I paid anyone to change their name.

I have however shut down 5 drug houses, prevented three residential burglaries, showed the city of Moreno Valley and the Moreno Valley police department how to rid homes of squatters without the need for going through the eviction process.

Not to mention single I handedly defended the rights of GOOD renters from being subjected to a unfair rental inspection program that the city of Moreno Valley was attempting to pass several years back.

Some of this came at a financial cost to me and my family as well, not to mention placing our personal safety and lives in jeopardy.

But then that's just my opinion, even though it can all be supported with facts.

So that's what I have done for the city. Now who's next?
peaches and cream

San Diego, CA

#48 Jun 1, 2010
Liberal JIm wrote:
Peaches and... I don't want one opinion. All I said was that you cant have a "debate" if only one opinion is allowed. To have a debate you need differences on an issue. Sir Gordon wrote that only ONE opinion is allowed. Do you understand that?
And, as a matter of fact, peaches and cream with a little sugar on top might not be delicious. That's YOUR opinion but not a fact.
Did you know that 3rd grade students learn to distinguish between fact and opinion.
That's what MVG does not seem to understand. That there is a big difference between facts and opinion. And on this site if we don't agree with Gordon, sorry for being rude, we are all called Alicia Espinoza or worse. Whoever that woman might be. So go ahead and start the name calling.
Well let me tell you something Jim, just the fact that your name is Jim and not Juan, puts the Alicia name calling target on your back.

She will assume you are white. Then she will precide to call you names like KKK, NAZI, FA--OT,WHITE TRASH, OLD MAN, REDNECK , RACIST, these are just a few of her favorites.

It does not matter if you are male or female. She attacks both equally.

Why are people attacked by Ms. Espinoza because they have a different view then her. Why do people attack back because they do not like being called such derogatory names.

There is one more thing I need to address, you stated that on this site if you do not agree with Gordon (aka mvgordie) we are all called Alicia Espinoza. Well you see the reason for that is because once people start disagreeing with her she changes her name in order to show support for her side. I am sure her identity list has probably reached twenty by now. Some have said she likes to play hide and seek with her name and her proxy server. Most of the regulars have caught on to her and have no respect for her.

Well I must admit it is odd that you have not been attacked by her yet. There is only one person who attacks mvgordie on a personal level on this site, and that includes misspelled words is Alicia Espinoza. So with that said maybe you Liberal Jim are #21.

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