service dogs in restaurants

service dogs in restaurants

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unsanitary

Morehead, KY

#1 Sep 7, 2012
Ok first off I do not have a problem with service dogs if they trully are service dogs. But when a woman brings her terrier into a restaurant and it pees in the floor and they just mop it up and say everything is ok, that is unsanitary. I know service dogs are trained to not use the bathroom in the house, this dog had been seen outside going to the bathroom, so why 15 minutes later di it do this. Come on where is our health department when we need it.
Agreed

United States

#2 Sep 7, 2012
I was actually in there when this took place. I was livid and the manager didn't do squat. ADA guidelines says if a 'medical dog' is distructive the owner can be asked to take it outside.

Urinating on the floor is defined as distructive for medical dogs.
service dogs

Newburgh, IN

#3 Sep 7, 2012
Legitimate service dogs have documentation of some sort on them, a vest, a tag, etc. that can easily be verified by management. If the dog is not a legitimate service dog it has no business being in restaurant. Service dogs are trained vigorously and extensively, having to pass many tests for their certification and they do not relieve themselves in buildings! Which restaurant was this? I would have certainly complained ot the management, or if I received no satisfaction, then the health department.
Saw her

Morehead, KY

#4 Sep 7, 2012
I know who you are talking about. Large woman with a little dog that rides on a pillow between her feet. Supposedly it can tell her when her sugar is off. I'm calling shenanigans, she just wants a reason to take the thing everywhere with her.
HannD

Morehead, KY

#5 Sep 7, 2012
Are you all going to eat off of the floor or something? It's just dog pee. The rules should be followed but I don't see this being such a big deal by what I have read here.
Agreed

United States

#6 Sep 7, 2012
HannD wrote:
Are you all going to eat off of the floor or something? It's just dog pee. The rules should be followed but I don't see this being such a big deal by what I have read here.
Having dog pee on a dining room floor is just as big of a violation as having bugs on the floor. Especially when it is not properly cleaned up an just pushed around with a mop.

You might be used to eating next to dog urine but some people expect a clean, healthy environment in a restaurant where they eat.
A thought

Morehead, KY

#7 Sep 7, 2012
Saw her wrote:
I know who you are talking about. Large woman with a little dog that rides on a pillow between her feet. Supposedly it can tell her when her sugar is off. I'm calling shenanigans, she just wants a reason to take the thing everywhere with her.
Here's a big hole in your shenanigans.

http://www.dogs4diabetics.com/

They are just as much of a service dog as those who help the blind.
Just saying

Morehead, KY

#8 Sep 7, 2012
A thought wrote:
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Here's a big hole in your shenanigans.
http://www.dogs4diabetics.com/
They are just as much of a service dog as those who help the blind.
No one said they weren't service dogs, the fact is service dogs ARE trained and do not urinate in doors.
THLtoday

Morehead, KY

#9 Sep 7, 2012
Agreed wrote:
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Having dog pee on a dining room floor is just as big of a violation as having bugs on the floor. Especially when it is not properly cleaned up an just pushed around with a mop.
You might be used to eating next to dog urine but some people expect a clean, healthy environment in a restaurant where they eat.
I'm pretty sure HannD's point was that it's not like the dog pee is going to crawl up in your plate or anything. Of course if instances like this happened in a particular restaurant all the time and it wasn't cleaned up properly resulting in stains/smell/bacteria than that would be different.
Just saying

Morehead, KY

#10 Sep 7, 2012
THLtoday wrote:
<quoted text> I'm pretty sure HannD's point was that it's not like the dog pee is going to crawl up in your plate or anything. Of course if instances like this happened in a particular restaurant all the time and it wasn't cleaned up properly resulting in stains/smell/bacteria than that would be different.
I think the point is, a animal should not have the opportunity to pee in a restaurant, if the dog was trained this would not have happened. I think that the resturant shrugging this is disrespectful to the other patrons and I know I personally would not return!
okay

Morehead, KY

#11 Sep 7, 2012
If an animal naturally becomes aware of its owners conditions the vet can claim it as a service dog without extensive training.
plain facts

Newburgh, IN

#12 Sep 7, 2012
The point is that the ONLY animals allowed in restaurants are bonafide certified service animals. It is the LAW. It is a concession to the Americans with Disabilities Act so that people in need of service animals to lead a normal life are able to go to public places accompanied by their service animals. The laws are specifcally fo professionally trained, certified service animals that as part of their training, are trained to not relieve themselves indoors, which is unsantitary, especially in an establishment service food. If the animal in question was indeed a certified service animal that because of a health issue or unavoidable circumstances, had an accident, that is one thing. But if this restaurant is allowing people to bring in their pet under the ruse of saying it is a service dog, but in fact it is not a genuine certified service dog, then they are absolutely in the wrong for allowing it in the building and they are violating health codes.
Diabetes

Morehead, KY

#13 Sep 7, 2012
LOL .. she must be pissing in its little mouth then. When you are diabetic and your glucose levels are high you pass sugar in your urine - and it tastes sweet. That was one way doctors used to tell if a person was diabetic before medical science advanced enough to do blood tests for glucose levels. Another way was to pee on the ground ... and watch for ants. Why do you think they call them piss ants? And, that is not a joke - small "sweet" ants - AKA piss ants - were attracted to the sugar in the urine. Not that any of that mattered much given there were no treatments and the "avoid sugar" myth is of little use.
Saw her wrote:
I know who you are talking about. Large woman with a little dog that rides on a pillow between her feet. Supposedly it can tell her when her sugar is off. I'm calling shenanigans, she just wants a reason to take the thing everywhere with her.
Wisdom

Plummers Landing, KY

#14 Sep 7, 2012
Good grief ppl!!!!!!!! Service dog or not,it pissed on the floor in a restarant! There is such a thing as common sense and decency. The dog and the owner should have been asked to leave. If an animal has not been trained to act according to common decency it and the owner should not have been there in the first place. If it was an unruly child they would have been told to leave, why should an animals behavior be any different.
plain facts

Newburgh, IN

#15 Sep 7, 2012
Diabetes wrote:
LOL .. she must be pissing in its little mouth then. When you are diabetic and your glucose levels are high you pass sugar in your urine - and it tastes sweet. That was one way doctors used to tell if a person was diabetic before medical science advanced enough to do blood tests for glucose levels. Another way was to pee on the ground ... and watch for ants. Why do you think they call them piss ants? And, that is not a joke - small "sweet" ants - AKA piss ants - were attracted to the sugar in the urine. Not that any of that mattered much given there were no treatments and the "avoid sugar" myth is of little use.
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There are service dogs for diabetics. You might want to do a little research on the subject. Here is a place to start:

http://www.dogs4diabetics.com/
fido

Morehead, KY

#16 Sep 7, 2012
I would think a reasonable course of action would have been for every disgusted patron to get up and walk out without paying. Then, perhaps, the management might think differently about doing something about it. I am pretty sure if I am eating and a dog up and pisses in the floor - I am going to lose interest in eating. Who are all these stupid ass people who think it is ok for a dog to piss in the floor in a public place while they are eating??
Dane

Morehead, KY

#17 Sep 7, 2012
Okay. If it's not certified than the restaurant needs to do their job at keeping it out. Now get off your high horses, queens and kings cause right around the corner of your booth as you sit enjoying your pizza is someone taking a big nasty dump. For heavens sake you don't get a whiff. I would rather have a little dog pee in the floor than the restaurant allow sick and snot nosed people in to eat. Now that is disgusting. Most people don't even turn their head away to sneeze. I would be more worried about animal fur floating around from pets rather than a little wet mistake. It's not like we created the rules though...
diabetes

Morehead, KY

#18 Sep 7, 2012
I stand corrected (really). I wonder if part of the protocol is putting the little dog on a pillow between your legs when driving? Maybe it pisses on the floor when her blood sugar is "off" - we need to be sensitive to that don't we.

Regardless, if the dog is going to piss in the floor while folks are eating - that is a problem.

Diabetic service dogs - learned something.
plain facts wrote:
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There are service dogs for diabetics. You might want to do a little research on the subject. Here is a place to start:
http://www.dogs4diabetics.com/
plain facts

Newburgh, IN

#19 Sep 7, 2012
diabetes wrote:
Regardless, if the dog is going to piss in the floor while folks are eating - that is a problem.
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I absolutely agree, which you could probably glean from my first post.

Just as a side note, it's also a felony for a person to say they are disabled when they are not or to say that their animal is a service animal when they are not, as a way to take their pet with them into an establshment.
okay

Morehead, KY

#20 Sep 7, 2012
Some dogs pick up on their owners disabilities and react to them. Any dog that shows this can be taken to a vet and given a vest and papers. So some.dogs and other animals do not have extensive training. Only natural ability. I was told to get a certain breed of dog for my child as they naturally have the ability to protect them. And once the animal shows maternal characteristics to protect my child I can take it to the vest and register it...

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