Mountain Lions in East KY

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JimBob

Morehead, KY

#1 Mar 13, 2010
Anyone ever seen one? I know there was that incident at - I think Tilden Hogge - school a few years back. And a cub got killed in the road in Floyd county a few years ago. Do you think they are really breeding here? The fish and wildlife people told us forever that Black Bears had not returned .... until they started tearing up peoples garbage. They say the main consideration for their habitat are remote places to hide and deer to eat. I think it would be a good idea if they ate a few more of the deer ... I just don't want them eating me :)
Ladiesandgents

Morehead, KY

#2 Mar 13, 2010
Anyone ever heard of black panthers around paragon on cave run? I was down there one night and I know I heard one scream.
meeeeeeeeee

Morehead, KY

#3 Mar 13, 2010
I have seen a black panther in hill n dale a few years back. and i can still hear them at night when i'm there. And i've heard cougars in the sharkey area.
Little Bird

Morehead, KY

#4 Mar 13, 2010
I also believe they are in Menifee county as well. Many people have reported hearing them and seeing them around the Means area for years.
Mee

Morehead, KY

#5 Mar 13, 2010
I know a few cougars I'd like to eat ....
Sarah

West Liberty, KY

#6 Mar 13, 2010
Are mountain lions the same as bobcats or wildcats?
JimBob

Morehead, KY

#7 Mar 13, 2010
No Sarah. Bobcats (also called wildcats) are much smaller - about the size of a dog. Mountain Lions are much larger. Mountain lions don't play basketball either :) Both were endemic to KY 100 years ago. All the mountain lions one the east coasts states with the exception of florida (a.k.a. panthers, cougars, painters) were killed out early in the last century by destruction of habit mostly. Bobcats apparently are more adaptable and survived. With a more friendly environmental situation like black bears they seem to be coming back to KY. Maybe if we are lucky they will learn to eat coyotes :) There are breeding populations just east of the Ohio river ... and the theory is that they can't cross the ohio to get back here. Yeah - right. The case for breeding populations in West Virginia is growing as well as KY. Most "sightings" can't be proved. Take the Tilden Hogge incident where an adult cougar was seen by several people looking at kids on a play ground. No pics, no tracks .. can't prove it. In reality .. most sightings are really house cats from a distance. The whole debate is complicated by people getting south american cougars as pets and when they can't handle them letting them go in the wild. The cougar cub that was killed in the road in Floyd county had DNA from both south america ... AND ... north american cats. The way if figure it ... a breeding population is a breeding population regardless of origin. Our grandparents all have cougar stories from the 20s and 30s. A lot of people don't know that deer were almost decimated in KY, but have come back strong .. too strong some think in KY due to good management by the Fish and Wildlife folks. Mountain Lions eat deer ... a strong deer population and remote places is a prime habitat .. and as we all know .. nature tends to fill those voids. Cougars are a big problem in western states where development has encroached on their habitat. People getting eaten. I just wonder where all the frigging coyotes came from ... I don't think they were endemic to KY. Apparently the eastern variety is much bigger than those out west .. maybe because of the food supply here. They are not a dog .. they are a wolf sub species. I don't mind them as long as they don't eat my cats :)
Oldman

Ashland, KY

#8 Mar 13, 2010
I have lived here for 70 years,outside a lot hunting,farming and fishing,have never seen one but people who I believe to be reliable have.My grandfather who was born in 1975 had an encounter with one.He was riding his horse home one very dark night when his horse screamed,reared up and ran away with him hanging on.Horse found it way home,he took care of the horse without lighting a lantern and went to bed.Next morning noticed the horse had claw marks down both flanks with the only explanation he could come up with was that a 'Painter'( his term for cougar) had dropped from a tree to attack his horse causing the runaway.
justme

Hiawassee, GA

#9 Mar 13, 2010
Ladiesandgents wrote:
Anyone ever heard of black panthers around paragon on cave run? I was down there one night and I know I heard one scream.
You heard a Mountain Lion. We have had them for years.
Seen one

Ft Mitchell, KY

#10 Mar 13, 2010
I was bowhunting around Tilden Hogge about 10 years ago. I had one come under my treestand. They are huge!!! And very timid. He didnt stick around long. And no I wasnt going to shot it!! It caught wind of me and was gone. And I seen one in Lewis county on the road, early one morning. It was at the intersection of 377 and 344, by the FD. I didnt realize what it was until I saw its tail. I was in disbelief. But others was with me saw it too. Ive not seen any of the "black" ones.
bob cat

Morehead, KY

#11 Mar 23, 2010
I seen one on main street years back . It was about five feet tall big red eyes very mean . ran about fifty miles per hour hell of a panther. There are really only bob cats witch are small and gray. then there is lynx.witch will attack you when you get near her young. they scream it will make your hair stand up. they will follow you at night in the woods. sounds like a women screaming . I seen many. you all have wild stories like the moth man.
Clyde

Morehead, KY

#12 Mar 23, 2010
I seen a mountain lion.
bob cat

Morehead, KY

#13 Mar 23, 2010
Ive been in the woods day and night raised on a farm . And I mid fifty winter and summer no tracks other than bob tracks lynx and sugar bears . so the moth man is here to bet you seen him . sorry this is dumb
JimBob

Morehead, KY

#14 Mar 23, 2010
Hey Bob Cat .. just because you have never seen one does not mean they are not there. It is hardly like the moth man. What did all those people see at Tilden Hogg school a few years ago? One got ran over in Floyd county and was documented. I am not saying I KNOW they are around, just asking if anyone has ever seen one lately. There is a documented breeding population in missouri .. that was not there 20 years ago. Kinda reminds me of a funny documentary I saw on wolves a few years back. The film crew was in a city in Idaho and asked residents if they ever saw a wolf .. to a person everyone said there were no wolves around there. Then .. the film crew showed them infrared video taken the night before ... with wolves running up and down main street. So .. who knows if mountains lions have returned to KY. But .. the habitat is perfect in may parts of eastern KY ... isolated with lots of deer to eat.

What is a sugar bear?
Carl

Morehead, KY

#15 Mar 23, 2010
I have seen coyotes in the west and here, they are about the same. Ihave seen bear outside my house near Tilden Hogge and yes there was a big cat, Cougar, Mt. Lion, on the picnic table at THE about 8 years back.
They are here, not many but they are here. I remember as a young child in the Wellington area, they were there then. Believe what you want, I know what i saw and have dealt with.
bob cat

Morehead, KY

#16 Mar 23, 2010
yes more than we need of coyotes. I agree . ok the moth man is on my picnic table gonna sent you a pic . send me one of yours. on a picnic table. They are lynx I seen many of them . bob cats are like a house cat small and gray . look up lynx in Ky. tell you what ill go sleep in any woods around here I have . I love It . done it . bob cats lynx yes coyotes plenty . YES.Bears Yes moth man is a dam owl.
bob cat

Morehead, KY

#17 Mar 23, 2010
Carl wrote:
I have seen coyotes in the west and here, they are about the same. Ihave seen bear outside my house near Tilden Hogge and yes there was a big cat, Cougar, Mt. Lion, on the picnic table at THE about 8 years back.
They are here, not many but they are here. I remember as a young child in the Wellington area, they were there then. Believe what you want, I know what i saw and have dealt with.
Tell Me if there was cougars here would there be as many turkeys and deer ?????????? lynx eat rodents rabbits you only see then near home brush or near homes to get away . deers don,t hide only from humans. You figure it out . I seen a shark in cave run. my grand father seen a great white there .
Saw one

Morehead, KY

#18 Mar 23, 2010
There have been cougars in Rowan Co.
bob cat

Morehead, KY

#19 Mar 23, 2010
You People . Funny. may be as pets. not in the wild west here. been all over these hill and wood for years .
Big d

United States

#20 Mar 23, 2010
Saw one in lewis co few years back. Game wardens also seen one in fleming 5-6 years back. That one made the maysville newspaper.

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