GM plans to build new engine in Ohio

GM plans to build new engine in Ohio

There are 25 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from Feb 5, 2008, titled GM plans to build new engine in Ohio. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

MORAINE: General Motors plans to build a new heavy-duty diesel engine at its plant in a Dayton suburb, investing $69 million and retaining more than 1,000 jobs, the automaker announced Tuesday.

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Cleveland, OH

#26 Jun 6, 2008
George N wrote:
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Wages being set by the market won't go down unless government fiat imposes it. Wages above market rates must be artificially propped up. The key to higher incomes is upgrading of skills, not tarrifs, government rules favoring unions, etc.
The overall consensus among most economists is that members of the UAW make too much money for performing unskilled labor and even those performing what the UAW considers "skilled" labor, isn't what the majority of the public thinks is skilled labor. The UAW has been gouging the big three for years and the party's over. It's time for UAW workers to work like the rest of America. But you should know that when a union member hears that, they just see red, because they think they earned it fair and square. Their reference point is never the marketplace. It is always the last contract (and what the company executives make).
$28 an hour is great, but $28 times zero hours makes for a lousy paycheck.
Typically, people who think someone else "makes too much" have some sort of envy problem.

If I want to make more than someone else, I know it can be done and what I need to do to get there. It doesn't include grabbing my pitchfork, rounding up the villagers and tearing down their pay scale. It means doing what it takes to make my time more valuable than theirs.

You're not happy that your skills earn you only half as much or "only" 1.X or 2.X times as much as someone else? Shut up and figure out a way to earn more rather than scheming up ways to drag that someone down to you. It's a capitalistic approach, it's better for the tax system and far, FAR better for the economy. It's also a lot easier, solves a lot more problems and creates zero problems.

Akron, OH

#28 Jun 6, 2008
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So the idea here is to convert 50k northern salaries into 38k southern salaries? I guess the average U.S. salary isn't pathetic enough as is. Keep turning 50k jobs into 38k jobs and we'll all be jumping for joy around 4/15/1X.
Unless of course, this is some sort of economic Lex Luther scheme to create a huge 38k "middle class" to carry a $15 trillion plus load. In that case, you'd better fix the immigration policy because you're going to need a lot more people. This population can barely handle the current budget with a 42k average.
While my last job paid nearly 3x that base, I'll take 38k in a HEARTBEAT rather than Walmart or nothing which is fast becoming the choice. The people of this country need to realize the good old days of high wages and good benefits is rapidly coming to an end. The new economic reality we face is the rich will get richer and the poor will get more company as the middle class evaporates.

We get what we ask for. Deal with it.
concerned citizen

Oshkosh, WI

#29 Jun 6, 2008
Alan wrote:
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While you are correct about thanking unions for some work related guidelines we all benefit from, unions went too far and have lost their relevance, support and need by most. Unions have helped decimate many industries and are directly to blame for the economic woes in many parts of this country.
the curve of unionism is sad. in the 30s when they were born, management were cruel masters and people worked 50 hours to live in a shack and feed their families oatmeal. the unions made great strides through the early 60s but never read "the Goose that laid the Golden Egg"

An American Tragedy

Dover, DE

#30 Jun 23, 2008
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Your and idiot......Is that what you got from that article you fool?....You would be the first to complain that jobs are leaving Ohio.... Dimwits like you disgust me... Thanks GM for retaining 1000 good paying manufacturing jobs in Ohio!!!!
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Actually he WAS being helpful! You want people to buy the products YOU produce don't you? Well, how about educating yourself a little about G.M. instead of just getting stuck in the 'well, it's an American company and it gives us jobs' mode.

A company that gives jobs is only as good as its product. You want people to buy your product today? Produce innovative transportation that is BIG on gas mileage per gallon and or alternative fuels, make it so it doesn't have to go into the shop for expensive repairs once a month, and BACK your merchandise with a WARRENTY worth having. Get with the program.

AND you can get on your management to tell the government where it can stuff it as far as GIVING PROFITS AND ETC TO TREASONOUS ORGANIZATIONS LIKE LA RAZA !!! I dare you to check this website.
concerned citizen

Oshkosh, WI

#31 Jun 23, 2008
George N wrote:
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That won't happen. My guess is that the building was already there, it is close to user plants and raw materials, and that a high degree of automation all mitigate the wages. Just a guess.Add that to the concessions GM won in this last contract.
As far as a "green-field" operation, little chance of that happening in a unionized area. Caterpillar makes engines here and pays 800 workers around $18 top wage, and gets a good day's work for it. No way would that have gone to the rust belt.
another post by rooties brother

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