I am trying to connect the 2000 students in this district not receiving the education the taxpayers are funding and the debate of teaching creationism. Is the board saying by teaching creationism then the students will be receiving the education we are funding?<quoted text>
2000 children in this district are not receiving the education the taxpayers are funding, your response, divert attention from the fact.
Those 2000 children who are failing our program of studies deserve better than the back of your hand.
And if you bothered to look at a science book from today and one from 1963 you would see some changes vs what was accepted truth in 1963 and what passes for the latest and greatest we know today. The conceit to think that we are the absolute epitome of human development worries me for the future of these children.
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#24897 May 27, 2013
#24898 May 27, 2013
Christopher Ritter, how silly you sound!
READ MY LIPS: No New Taxes for increased wages and beneifts for
union employees; no more open springboro wallets for use by our local government agencies wanting to "help themselves" to more of our money. Enough is Enough and the time has come for local government to live within its means. READ THAT AGAIN.
#24899 May 27, 2013
Which class in the course of study is this being taught?
This is like another way to avoid speaking about all the kids flunking, 2000 is a bunch.
#24900 May 27, 2013
Over 2000 years ago, Jesus gave us a map for our lives. He gave us Christian principles that are written in the New Testament. Through our families and churches, we learn to follow these principles to live good lives and give glory to God.
In the United States, we have the Constitution and Bill of Rights to protect our freedom, but some people in government are trying to change our basic concepts of faith, family, and freedom.
The president and some lawmakers want the government to be in control of everything. They think they know what is best for us. God gave us free will and the ability to use our consciences to determine what is right and wrong. He gave us natural law to follow to help us live healthy lives. He gave us commandments to help us live in harmony with other people.
Some people in government do not respect Gods greatest creation human life. God crate us in His image and likeness. He gave us dignity as His sons and daughters. He alone decides when we live and when we die.
However, some men and women think it is their right to decide who lives and dies. They want to kill some babies before they are born. This is called abortion. They want to kill some disable or older people whom they consider not valuable to our society. This is called euthanasia.
Now our churches are in danger because some leaders in our government want to take away our religious freedom. Religious freedom means we follow our consciences in the way we live our lives. For example, if we believe that abortion is wrong, we do not pay for abortions through taxes. If pharmacists believe that abortion is wrong, they do not fill prescriptions that cause abortions.
The current government wants to take away our ability to continue some of our churches good works. In an order called the health and human services mandate, the government decided that the only sort of religious activity it will protect is private worship. Worship is only part of our faith. As Christians we have always been called to serve others. When we love our neighbor as ourselves, we take care of all people who need help not just those who belong to our churches. Freedom and human rights come from God, not the Government. God Bless You and God Bless America!
#24901 May 27, 2013
I am a non-believer. I don't force this down the throats of others. I find it somewhat ironic that you feel that because you go to church you have the right to dictate what I should believe. You don't love your neighbor....only if your neighbor shares your exact views. Just because I don't believe in god does not mean I do not help others. I volunteer my time and I am generous in my monetary donations.
God provides nothing for me. I love my country. I have faithfully served this country to protect the freedoms we ALL enjoy.
I have a question for you dedicated Christian. The church believes in tithing right? Isn't this like a tax? Do you question how much your church staff gets paid and what benefits you are paying for. Do you ask for transparency programs at your church so you know how much comes in and what the expenses are? What do you think about the priests who sexually abused children in the name of God? And the church and your God that forgave such disguisting behavior by allowing these abused to continue to worship in your scared churches?
But you cant forgive or forget a teacher for belonging to a union....amazing!
#24902 May 27, 2013
2000 is a bunch. There are many posts that clearly point out how the school system is failing 2000 kids. The board of education is hellbent on changing the status quo. The board clearly discussed bringing creationism into the schools. I am waiting for someone to show me how teaching creationism moves the needle to improve those scores.
#24903 May 28, 2013
False issue and obvious attempt to change the issue from 2000 children not getting the education we are funding. Let me know which class in the curriculum you are talking about and we can have a serious discussion from that point.
Still 2000 kids not getting the education we are funding in this district, what does the opposition do, resort to fake arguments about made up issues.
The Occupy people could not care less about your children, nor more about themselves.
#24904 May 28, 2013
These are your 6th grade test results for 2010 - 2011
2010 - 2011
6th Grade State Defined Achievement Classifications
Limited.... 14 Students
Limited.... 23% Average Score
Limited Definition.....0-14 correct answers (scored 0-28%)
Basic..... 13 Students
Basic..... 35% Average Score
Basic Definition.....15-19 correct answers (scored 30-38%)
Proficient.... 83 Students
Proficient.... 50% Average
Proficient Definition.....20-28 correct answers (40- 56%)
Accelerated..... 76 Students
Accelerated..... 62% Average Score
Accelerated Definition.....29-33 correct answers (58%- 66%)
Advanced 181 Students
Advanced.... 79% Average Score
Advanced Definition.....34-50 correct answers (68%- 100%)
Using the scale Mr. Malone had used for years at the high school to grade PSEO college credits
F..... Below 62.99%..... 156 Students.....43% receiving F
D..... 63 to 74.99%..... 97 Students.....26% receiving D
C..... 75 to 84.99%..... 76 Students.....21% receiving C
B..... 85 to 92.99%..... 32 Students.....9% receiving B
A..... 93 and above..... 6 Students.....2% receiving A
Total 6th Grade......... 367 Students
Now tell me again how these results are outstanding. The only real passing scores are in the top state defined rank of Advanced and the average score in that category was 79%. Mr. Lewis stated his goal was to get more kids into the PROFICIENT rankings last year during his board presentation and the crowd went wild with approval. Increasing performance is certainly the goal, but shooting for 40% on a math achievement test does not seem as though it will benefit a child much more than scoring 36% on the test. Both scores will leave a child far behind the class.
Celebrating such "achievement" is a frightening specter of the present and the future states of education.
Euphemisms are no substitute for actual achievement.
#24905 May 28, 2013
So figuring our Performance Indicator for the Intermediate School by the state
Limited (0%- 28% on test)........ 14 students x .03 =.42
Basic (30%- 38% on test)......... 13 students x .06 = 7.8
Proficient (40%- 56% on test)..... 83 students x 1.0 = 83
Accelerated (58%- 66% on test).. 76 students x 1.1 = 83.6
Advanced (68%- 100% on test)..... 181 students x 1.2 = 217.2
Grand Total ..........392/367 students = 1.06 Performance Index
According to the state we are doing excellent with distinction.
The reality is quite different.
THE PERFORMANCE INDEX
The Performance Index (PI) is one of the multiple measures used to determine school building and district Report Card designations. Based on the PI buildings and districts may be placed in a Report Card designation at a level higher than they would have been placed based only on the numbers of indicators met. The building/district designation will always be the higher category whether determined by the PI or number of indicators.
Local Report Card (LRC) Designations
PI scores at the following levels will place the building or district in the designations shown:
PI Score Report Card Designation
0-69 Academic Emergency
70-79 Academic Watch
80-89 Continuous Improvement
PI and Growth Calculation
The Growth Calculation is another of the multiple measures used to determine school building and district Report Card designations. Until individual student growth in reading and math from grade to grade can be measured utilizing the new achievement tests the PI will be used as a temporary measure of growth. Growth in the PI may enable buildings/districts to move up a category even though the district/building did not meet the required number of LRC indicators or PI score. Districts/buildings can move from Emergency to Watch or from Watch to Improvement if:
1.) the PI score improved in each of the last two years and
2.) the total two-year gain was at least 10 points and
3.) a gain of at least 3 points took place in the current year.
A history of the PI scores can be found in the LRC.
Calculation of the Performance Index
The PI is calculated by using a weighted average of individual student performance levels on the proficiency and achievement tests at grades where multiple score levels are reported. As achievement tests are implemented the scores will be included in the PI calculation beginning with the first years administration of the new test.
The assigned weighted scores are as follows:
Performance Level Weight
Untested Student 0
Below Basic 0.3
Each weighted score is multiplied by the percentage of student scores at that level. Students will be included in the calculations based on the enrollment rules (present during the October count and 120 consecutive school days of enrollment, including the March testing period), where students count rules, and the 1% limitation on counting alternately assessed students as proficient. The total count of all student scores includes up to five tests per student.
This indicator is worthless as evidence in regards to whether or not children are getting the education the taxpayers are funding.
Using the 6th grade in 2009 - 2010 as an example the Perfomance Indicator rigs the game by pretending that children who score between 40%-56% and are rated PROFICIENT are rewarded with a 1 on the weighting scale, or smack dab in the middle of their scale.
Those who scored between 58%- 66% and are rated as ACCELERATED by the state are rewarded with bonus points and rewarded with a 1.1 weighting.
Those who scored between 68%- 100%(in traditional terms, A-D passing grades) received the highest weighting of 1.2
#24906 May 28, 2013
I know this doesn't fit your false narrative!
Let's hear it for our Seniors!
Springboro High School had about 365 graduates, 140 received scholarships
-The scholarship total was over $5.2 million --up almost $1 million from last year
-About 57 students achieve a 30 or higher on the ACT, this puts them in the top 5% of all seniors in the nation
-A senior received an appointment to the U.S. Military Academy at West Point
-Another student was accepted to the Mass. Institute of Technology (MIT)
-One student was admitted to Univ. of Pennsylvania--an Ivy League school
-2 National Merit finalists on the PSAT--there are less than 15,000 each year nationally, out of over 1.6 million students who take the PSAT
-At least 4 students received full athletic scholarships to Division 1 schools
#24907 May 28, 2013
What do you think about those in our Military service (living off taxpayer's dollars) who sexually abuse our Female Soldiers?
Should our Female Soldiers wearing the same proud uniform as our Male Soldiers accept that rape is a "work place hazard" in our United States Military Service?
Should those Male soldiers who rape their fellow Female soldiers in the workplace be "FIRED?"
Did you see recently in the news that our commander in chief delivered the commencement address at West Point grauduation; lecturing this fine class of graduates that sexual assault has to stop?
Don't you think it is the responsibility of our K-12 educators in public schools across this nation to stop their argument that "God has no place in this country" And start engaging with parents and students in argument that "disrespect for human dignity has no place in this country?"
#24908 May 28, 2013
There is a reason most churches put forward their contributions from the previous week in their bulletin each week, both as a reminder to do the right thing and to let the people who make the contributions know where the church sits each week.
Transparency is a good thing in all publicly run organizations, it gives people comfort in having an idea of what is going on with their money they so generously provide.
Most priests who sexually abused children were not doing so in the name of the Lord, but for more atavistic personal reasons is my supposition. They also tended in overwhelming numbers to be homosexual pedophiles, they did not however, outnumber all of those good and righteous priests who populate our parishes.
God forgives the sinners and their sins, but the 99.9999% of Catholics who put butts in those pews do not. It perturbs us to no end that monies expended by the church in this scandal came from our collective pockets and did not go to the benefit of those intended.
Now what does any of that have to do with 2000 of our children not receiving the education the taxpayers have funded?
#24909 May 28, 2013
Define your scholarship money please, is that per year they will receive $5.2 million dollars or over a four year period?
I was always under the impression from the catcalls at our board meetings that over 40% of our student population was gifted? Given that fact shouldn't we have quite a few more children receiving 30 and above on the ACT?
Congratulations to those 3 students accepted at prestigious universities. Again, should we not have more than that given our gifted numbers?
Are the four students receiving full rides for athletics included in the $5.2 million dollars of scholarship money?
If so, what is the total without their athletic contribution?
#24910 May 28, 2013
2000 plus children not receiving the education the taxpayers are funding, the data demonstrates the point, the parents wonder about the childrens' futures, and the public wants to know what the union is going to do to ameliorate these abysmal numbers.
If 40% of our children in this community are truly gifted, then I question the parsimonious results we attain by graduation.
#24911 May 28, 2013
Hooray for Us - It's time to celebrate our success!
Congratulations to each of our Springboro High School Graduates!
This is the time to think on all good things we enjoy living and working in Springboro school district!
This is the time to express our thanks and gratitude to our Students for their hard work and great accomplishments; and
This is the time to express our thanks and gratitude to our
Springboro Schools Admininstrative and Teaching Staff And Each one of our School Union Employees! Thank You!
This is the time to say Thank You to SpringBoro Taxpayers and our Springboro Board of Education representatives, who give generously of our time and money to ensure that our children in Springboro receive a quality classroom education, while living within our children first budgeting!
This is a the time to say Congratulations and Thank You to our Springboro School Board of Education representatives for Saying YES to Our Children First!
Thank You Dr. Kohls, Mr. Rigano, Mr. Petroni, Mr. Miller, and Mrs. Kull!
#24912 May 28, 2013
Considering what is spent per pupil compared to the rest of the state, Springboro students are getting one hell of an education.
#24913 May 28, 2013
And I absolutely love how when the data suggest the students are doing well, it's because the parents are involved in their child's education. Yet when you interpret the data to mean the students are struggling or failing, it's suddenly the teacher's fault.
#24914 May 28, 2013
Want to compare Springboro to the rest of the county?
Higher percentage of students being proficient or higher in all five subjects on the OGT than anyone, including Mason.
How about Montgomery County? Bested (barely) only by Oakwood.
Springboro spends the lowest per pupil in both counties ($7,812).
Springboro spends 25% less than Mason and beats them ($10,412).
Springboro spends 32.2% less than Centerville and beats them ($11,527).
Springboro spends 32.6% less than Oakwood and is only 0.9% lower in results ($11,590).
I'll say it again, Springboro students are getting one HELL of an education!
#24915 May 28, 2013
Just because you spend great amounts of money on an item, that in and of itself, is no guarantee as to the value, nor the quality of the item.
How do you know they are spending the right amount of money?
#24916 May 28, 2013
Education is a triad between student, parent, and teacher. If one of the three legs of the triad fails, the other two are at a distinct disadvantage.
We are all in this together, the child is the one who pays the ultimate price for the rests success or failure.
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