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#23549 Feb 21, 2013
How does Springboro supplement these other districts?
#23550 Feb 21, 2013
Answer to Question4u
Should the White House control what your kids learn?
By Stanley Kurtz
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/07/sho...
Editor's note: this piece is adapted from "Spreading the Wealth: How Obama is Robbing the Suburbs to Pay for the Cities " (Sentinel HC August 2012).
#23551 Feb 21, 2013
Springboro High School Grading Schedule from the Springboro Progress Book. Conversion of class percentage mastered into a GPA weighting number.
93% Looks to be the bottom edge of the A range
83% Looks to be the bottom edge of the B range
73% Looks to be the bottom edge of the C range
63% Looks to be the bottom edge of the D range
62.99 and below looks to be the F range
Let's look at our Ohio Graduation Tests and our Ohio Achievement Assessment tests with the same criteria applied to the results.
Provided is the information gleaned from the ODE website
Ohio Graduation Test Cut Scores and Scoring Bands on the 2012 test
If a student was able to answer 19.5 out of 48 questions correctly they were deemed Proficient in Reading.
(In a class at our high school those scoring in the Proficient range would have meant they absolutely failed)
Springboro had 88 students out of 380 students taking the Ohio Graduation test fall in the Proficient or below category. This test is taken in the spring of their sophomore year and measures what they have learned in grades 1-9.
If a student was able to answer 19.5 out of 46 questions correctly they were deemed Proficient in Math.
Springboro had 40 students our of 380 students taking the Ohio Graduation test fall in the Proficient or below category. This test is taken in the spring of their sophomore year and measures what they have learned in grades 1-9.
(In a class at our high school those scoring in the Proficient and some Accelerated ranges would have meant they absolutely failed)
They further REDUCED the number of questions correct that you needed to reach the various achievement levels down a question from the 2011 already low levels.
Over 2000 students are receiving a less than adequate education in our schools. The state and our school administrators wish to paper over this fact with sweet smelling semantics about how many of our children scored Proficient or better
The principals in these schools know what they are purveying is half truth, yet recite it with straight faces as yet another class graduates with less of an education than we, the taxpayers, funded.
It is time for an infusion of new ideas that truly pursue excellence rather than state minimum standards
If you achieve a 70% on a professional test to sell insurance and stocks you're approved to do so. You need a 75% on your boards to become a nurse. To get into grad school you need a 76% on the MAT. On the LSAT you need a score in the 80s. Quit comparing these scores to the percentage you receive for coursework, they are not related. It's a scaled score. Even baseball players that hit 33% of the time are All Stars!!!
#23552 Feb 21, 2013
You're telling us there are loose teachers in Springboro's schools? C'mon! Spill out some names! Inquiring minds want to know!
#23553 Feb 21, 2013
"The principals in these schools know what they are purveying is half truth, yet recite it with straight faces as yet another class graduates with less of an education than we, the taxpayers, funded.
It is time for an infusion of new ideas that truly pursue excellence rather than state minimum standards" .......
No More Status Quo
OEA/SEA Indoctrination/Politics of social justice for Teachers Unions in our kid's classrooms has to go....
SHS Principal Ron Malone has to go....
Longest time "sitting on the board" status quo BOE member Don Miller has to go.....
(Not wise to try infusion of new wine in old wineskins).
#23554 Feb 21, 2013
What a joke I just saw my kids course offerings for the high school. BOE let's see you get out of this one as all social studies electives for next year were cut. All of these courses were college prep and met the requirements for NCAA clearinghouse. Can't be money because you added PE courses. Yes everyone the BOE replaced academic courses with additional PE courses. If PE is the new BOE agenda save it for your conversion school. You can make it the Springboro PE Academy. Maybe with more A's in PE GPA's will go up? BOE I know your out there (as most of you are on here posting.) BOE you have reached a new low replacing college level courses with additional PE offers. These are the same board members who talked about how more history should be taught in public schools. What a slap in the face! I'm pretty sure Oakwood, Centerville, Mason, Kings, Solon, or any other top school district in the state is not replacing academic course offerings with PE. BOE if this is your answer to raising student achievement you are the joke!!!
#23555 Feb 21, 2013
I want to know how cutting the academic classes that children take is "putting the children first." They cut all the academic electives.
To the previous writer, I don't think they will add more gym classes. They will just continue increasing class sizes at the high school. My daughter already has 34 kids in her English class and 30 in her science class. Pathetic.
#23556 Feb 21, 2013
The BOE added PE Team Sports & PE Individual Sports and as you stated cut several of the academic college prep electives.
#23557 Feb 21, 2013
Just in the BOE is replacing "Children First" with "Fitness First" Can't wait to hear how they spin this. I'm sure it's all the "union thugs" they like to use as scapegoats fault somehow.
#23558 Feb 21, 2013
Hmmmm... social studies OR unionism indoctrination?
WE all remember the hizzy fit thrown by the union-supported community activists during last year because they were so angry that the union-supported school board candidates lost the election;that our union had thought would put them in better position for negotiations.
These district union members had spent their money and many hours working to get these candidates elected in November 2011; and when the union school board candidates lost the BOE election, they turned their anger against our three strong, moral, reform minded BOE members into the destructive energy of an almost "stalking mentality" with cameras turned on the winning board members during every public meeting; and blogs spreading lies, rumors and innuendoes launched against them.
Now here we are, one year later, and these three strong, moral, reform-minded BOE elected officials are still being relentlessly stalked by the union activists, who are still trying to render ineffective the achievements of this BOE majority, and still trying to take away the authority of the board representatives people that Springboro voters elected to represent us.
People, don't be fooled by these continuing false accusations that our BOE majority does not have our kids first best interest as their number one priority. We know that we did the right thing by electing three strong, moral, community supporters who are doing the right thing for the children and the taxpayers.
We know that we appreciate the 2012 achievements accomplished for our children first, and we stand firm in our continued support of our reform minded board members new philosophy of change, that is needed for our children's future.
#23559 Feb 21, 2013
Oh, please! Stop the whining about class sizes! The average European and Asian class size ranges between 32-38 students. It's extremely well documented that K-12 education in many of those nations is at least equal to, or has exceeded America's.
#23560 Feb 21, 2013
Schools in Ohio have a spending problem
Letter writer William S. McDowall is correct to blame our politicians for Ohio’s school-funding crisis and the increasing levy fatigue throughout our state. However, while he thinks "unconstitutional” funding is the problem, it is the skyrocketing employee costs for which we should fault our legislators (“ Lawmakers must remedy school funding,” Jan. 27).
Most notably, in 1983, Ohio Democrats granted the teachers unions the right to strike against students and communities for better pay and benefits.
This has ultimately resulted in decades of the unions demanding teacher raises averaging 5 percent to 6 percent annually, nearly twice that awarded typical Ohio workers. In addition, the unions expect nearly free employee health care, regardless of its cost, and million-dollar pensions for just 30 years of nine-month employment.
Our lawmakers also have mandated that teachers have a master’s degree. Yes, this may sound great, but unfortunately it only guarantees larger salaries for teachers and higher costs for the community, with no guarantee (or evidence) of increased performance in the schools.
Finally, to exaggerate the expense problem it helped create, the legislature eventually offered huge pension bonuses for teachers who worked beyond 30 years.
This not only drove up salary and benefit costs to keep costly long-tenured teachers, but it also made it very difficult for Ohio’s young teachers to find work. Yes, Ohio’s legislature is largely responsible for our school-funding crisis, but it has little to do with funding, and much more to do with spending. And we will not solve this problem until a majority of Ohioans and the unions accept that simple fact.
In the meantime, the unions will reject needed change, push for new funding (levies), and quietly watch as school boards dismantle programs and cut services because the generous union contracts of the past are no longer sustainable.
#23561 Feb 21, 2013
Q) What is a "gym class" at Springboro High School?
A) A barely supervised study hall without chairs and desks
#23562 Feb 21, 2013
The small minded ones complaining about class sizes are the same ones complaining that we need more union teachers in our public schools so that more union teachers are paying union dues
supporting the liberal political agenda of union/community activists.
#23563 Feb 21, 2013
YOUR BOE just cut academic classes at the high school. How is that putting children first??
#23565 Feb 21, 2013
Do not be fooled by all the nonsense Children First board they added PE courses and cut academic classes.
#23566 Feb 21, 2013
Please do Springboro a favor and move to Europe or Asia. When you get there please post and let us know how wonderful it is.
#23567 Feb 21, 2013
I doubt if many of the students labeled as Proficient for 12 years in the Springboro school district will be taking any of your professional exams any time soon.
And that, dear friend, is the crux of the situation.
Which of the 2000 plus students that we so cavalierly dismiss could have been making a greater contribution to society and themselves had we done our job and educated them in a better fashion?
Who are we dismissing today that could have turned into something had we done the job we were supposed to do rather than hiding behind semantics, accepting less than mediocre as success?
#23568 Feb 21, 2013
Just blame the donuts that malone hands out to the kiddies in appreciation of the youth union/SEA activists March 2012 save ron malone rally. This is the time to cut out the double dipping fat
at SHS. Bring on those PE classes.
#23569 Feb 21, 2013
.... and like totally without donuts.
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