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#23201 Jan 27, 2013
It all sounds great having parents work and volunteer to save money but the end results are exactly like what is happening in the varsity boys basketball program where kids who have worked hard are cheated out of their deserved playing time. In the end having parents coach or volunteer, there are always agendas attached. The entire Springboro basketball community is painfully aware of this fact and hopefully the inner circle of the BOE will become enlightened of this fact as well.
#23202 Jan 27, 2013
These are good lessons for children to learn at an early age. Very few of us escape situations in life after high school where we see people get ahead that shouldn't because of who they know and who they blow smoke by on a daily basis.
Some bosses have tunnel vision, some you just don't get along with, and some are morons. In the end it doesn't matter because they are the boss. Anyone care to guess how these situation generally turn out? How many of us with the long experience in life have not witnessed the above?
You learn to deal with it the best you can given the circumstances you enjoy.
The BOE does not have anything to do with the governance of the select basketball program.
#23203 Jan 27, 2013
You all are just attacking when good people stand up and do more than b. This man does something to fix this system all for the kids and you liberals do what Saul tells you to do and attack him personally. If this is a district employee, this is Conduct Unbecomming. Your licensure is at risk.
You should never talk about someones kids here, that is out of bounds and is something that can be tracked.
It appears you are here on Topix posting? What a hypocrite you are.
#23204 Jan 27, 2013
As students leave the High School to take college courses they do not have to be taught at Springboro so I would venture a guess that it costs what it saves. How much does it cost Springboro to teach this same student 3-6 credit hours at our building? A full time high school student costs about $7,800 per year. If they leave half of the school year than it saves $3,900. What does it cost depends on how many credits they earn at the college. Why does our high school not push students to PSEO? I know of one student that graduated two years ago and had his first year of college completed completely free saving his family $20-50,000. Why doesn't Springboro tell all parents and students of this option and how great it is? I have heard it was cost. That does not pencil out to me. A 3 credit hour college course costs Springboro about $1,000 that is equal to what it costs to keep them in the High School for the course but saves parents that $1,000 later. Financially it is a wash to the district. Again I ask why aren't they pushing students to this unbelievable opportunity but instead discourage it?
This sounds exactly like the Conversion argument. Those opposed are opposed because they are protecting district jobs and has nothing to do with what is good for the kids. This seems very selfish to me.
#23205 Jan 27, 2013
Any district that pays for attendance to this Bill Ayres teacher conference should be shut down. This man/speakers hates this country enough to try to kill and blow up a govt. building why would anyone listen to ta terrorist and absolutely should never use tax payer money to listen to him and come home and be anywhere near children. Will Lisa go to hear Billy, she is a teacher?
#23206 Jan 27, 2013
A City Council and Mayor and your 2nd amendments.
This Springboro City Council, Township Trustees and School Board swore to uphold the Constitution of this United States.
#23207 Jan 27, 2013
I don't think it saves the school any money because it is going to still have teach the kids who don't chose this option. It is a good deal for kids and their parents but not sure how it is better than AP classes, which are already taught.
#23208 Jan 27, 2013
Lurker should stop wasting words; Those first three little words say all there is to say about lurker posts: "I don't think...."
#23209 Jan 27, 2013
Wow, true intellectual giants post on this board. Sorry if I don't live up to those high standards! My cut and paste skills are rusty!
#23210 Jan 27, 2013
Undergraduate students, 2012-2013
The table below shows the total cost of tuition per semester, including General Fee and Network & Technology Fee for in-state and out-of-state undergraduate students, for the academic year 2012-2013.
If you have more kids in college garning college credits then you would need fewer teachers at the high school teaching current event classes, film classes, etc. Reducing our unneeded staff, redeploying our unused resources in the high school to other areas of high need throughout the school district would certainly save us money and benefit all of the children who are now struggling within our system.
2000 plus children are still not getting it according to the data provide by the state assessment tests. Redeploying our forces to best serve and advance these children's education is of paramount concern for every taxpayer in this district. If the taxpayer is going to pay for it, we should demand something for our contribution.
If we can spend less on college than we do in the high school, how can we say no to 2000 children who are not getting the education they deserve by redeploying resources to better serve that population?
How can we say no to parents and children struggling with ever increasing costs of higher education?
How can we say no to providing the basic assistance to give our children the boost forward in life?
#23211 Jan 27, 2013
That fee structure was for Miami University Middletown.
If you do not wish for your children to participate that is fine, but please do not hinder the opportunities for others who do wish to pursue this option.
#23212 Jan 27, 2013
Apology accepted! Now skip the pity party and forget about rusty cut and paste skills; stop denying the truth and educate yourself to the facts by "just watching."
#23213 Jan 27, 2013
I go to the same meetings as just watching and don't see or hear what he hears.
#23214 Jan 27, 2013
Responsible parents of Springboro schools are going to have to deal with an unforeseen problem. Left-wing ’60s radical and onetime domestic terrorist Bill Ayers will be a keynote speaker at the Association of Teacher Educators annual conference in Atlanta next month. Should we allow public dollars to be used to send Springboro administrators and teachers to Atlanta in order to hear the words of a self-described anti-government terrorist?
Ayers gained notoriety alongside his wife Bernardine Dohrn as a member of the Weather Underground during the Vietnam War. He was involved in Chicago’s “Days of Rage” riot in 1969 and went underground as a fugitive from justice after an accidental Greenwich Village townhouse explosion in 1970 killed three Weather Underground members who were preparing a bomb that prematurely detonated.
Ayers admitted in a 2001 book that he participated in bombings of the New York City Police Department headquarters, the U.S. Capitol Building and the Pentagon in the early 1970s.
He subsequently became a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago and a “family friend” to Barack Obama before the president became a national political figure.
A sample of the wit and wisdom of Bill Ayers:
“Kill all the rich people.… Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents.”
The avowed communist revolutionary Ayers is best known for grooming Barack Hussein Obama for high office, as part of the same strategy of destroying America from within its own institutions that led him to abandon bombs for a career in education. Obama’s political career was literally launched from the apartment Ayers shared with fellow terrorist Bernardine Dohrn, inventor of the Fork Salute honoring the Manson Family’s senseless murders.
#23215 Jan 27, 2013
You won't see it or hear it at a meeting that is designed to promote a certain image. Doing your homework, utilizing your critical thinking skills, and thinking about what you have learned are the only way to enlighten oneself.
I try to annotate my sources for your perusal. Inspect them for yourself and then get back to us with your thoughts.
#23216 Jan 27, 2013
Lovely people, I can see why the teacher's union is so enthralled by them. What is not to love?
I also note that it would appear the Mr. Ayres never did renounce his father's money, radical chic was more his style. No sense being a bum when you can pontificate from tony neighborhoods far from the results of your pontificating.
#23217 Jan 28, 2013
Many of those who go to the same meetings as our arrogantly proud boro parents (such as the few ones ones publicly spewing threats, false accusations, and hostility, on January 10 and January 22, at their neighbors who are elected by the public to serve as Board of Education representatives) "don't see NOR hear" what these parents hear. And neither do many of those who go to the same meetings agree with, nor appreciate, this flock of parental "angry birds" that descend upon our public business meetings trying to ram their personal self interest agenda of "grandstanding above all" down the throats of all Springboro parents and school district voters.
#23218 Jan 28, 2013
Our left-leaning media tends to refer to Bill Ayers as a former domestic terrorist. Don't let them fool you. There is nothing "former" about it. Ayers is every bit the domestic terrorist he ever was.
There is a clear delineation between the bomb-making Ayers of the '60's and '70s, versus the professor Bill Ayers of today. Part of his not-so-well-hidden agenda is all about a gradual undermining of America's longstanding core value system in our education system. The goal of Ayers as well as similar social terrorists is to use America's school room cirriculum as an agent to infiltrate the minds of our children. These people start this process by brainwashing today's teachers into believing the destructive leftwing values they teach are thoughts that mirror mainsteam thought. They'll happily do this at meeting places and seminars, just like this upcoming A.T.E. convention in Atlanta.
#23219 Jan 28, 2013
Dear Mr. Petrey,
Will you communicate to Springboro families and community members if our school teachers plan to support the key note speaker with their attendance at the national conference, and how will this trip for our teachers be funded?
We need to know your thoughts, as our Superintendent of Springboro Schools, as to what value you think our teachers would gain, and exactly what educational value supporting our schools Mission statement, would our teachers bring back into our Springboro students classrooms?
#23220 Jan 28, 2013
Each and every Springboro parent and concerned citizen should take a half hour out of their busy lives to read through this...
Could it be Springboro schools is just another Ohio school districts that has been victimized by low sets of standards being set for our school children? Is it possible that Boro's "Excellent with Distinction" designation amounts to not a lot more than some really nice banners to hang, and a nice perennial back rubbing from Columbus?
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