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California Proposition 19: the Marijuana Legalization Initiative

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ajackcrack

San Diego, CA

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#13685
Dec 8, 2012
 
George D Horwitz wrote:
I long ago stopped using marijuana, so I am only commenting as a disinterested observer at this point,but there are I think two things worth considering.
1.) Pot's presently against the law, so anyone using it is breaking the law. So if millions of Americans are out breaking that law, might they not be easily led to breaking other laws? I do not favor having such a lax attitude for the law.
Many people think laws are stupid and they break them. Slippery slope.
2.) If we decriminalize marijuana, that might lead to less criminal activity. It might not, but it might.
For twelve years, alcohol was illegal in the United States, and this gave rise to a gangster class we now call The Mafia. It also lead to a more accepting attitude among previously law-abiding citizens toward criminal activities like drug dealing, hiring imigrants without papers, fraudulent lending, tax evasion, the whole enchilada. Many Americans engage in some form of criminal activity, and I am not convinced that changing the rules governing pot will change our attitude at this late date.
Significant opponents of pot law reform include the folks who make beer and liquor.
...but there are, I think, other... things worth considering.

1. The realization, breaking laws and doing bad are two different things. I think most people realize what not to do, not because it's legal or illegal, but because it's right or wrong. Smoking marijuana is illegal because it was declared wrong by very ignorant policy makers, what almost a 100 years ago? Our policy is shaped by no recent studies or statistics showing marijuana as a dangerous substance, but by no legitimate studies done almost a 100 years ago. No more a danger than something like cigarettes killing 400000 people a year.

IF you were sick, and there was something illegal you found that truly had significant benefit and little harm compared to something legal that you found did not help, but maybe just covered up the problem and in the long run made things worse, what would you choose? The legal thing? The FDA legalized hundreds of drugs only testing them for a year. A year... and they're miraculously OK for humans. Marijuana has posed no significant health risks... ever... And if it's the inhalation of smoke, I bring up the LEGAL cigarette thing again, and there are a few ways of getting THC into the system without having to smoke it.

2. Law abiding citizens for the most part are just "right" abiding citizens. People who are compelled to do bad don't need a catalyst to do bad. They just do what's in their nature. You're blaming this cascade of bad happenings on a thing... that doesn't make any fucking sense...

You're a fraud. Your just against it and think you have this big concept to pull one over anonymously on readers. You only know what you know, I guess... can't blame you till you actually know...
Right said Fred

Santa Cruz, CA

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Dec 8, 2012
 

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I am too sexy.
Bruno24

Brussels, Belgium

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Dec 9, 2012
 

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Sincere advise:

If you want remain healthy, don't do *legal* drugs.

Prohibition of food and medication can only transform a state into the worst type of food and drug dealer.

Prohibition corrupts everything, even education and logic.
Mr Anderson

Anderson, CA

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Dec 9, 2012
 

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Mike DiRucci wrote:
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Your buddy "Big D" is up for another round of whack the dopey lefty again with his "Clinton's impeachment failed" nonsense. Get over there and help him out, jackass! He's floundering badly and needs your stupidity to make him even funnier!
id gladly have an adult discussion with you mr dirucci.

if you were capable of such a thing!!

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

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Canarsie, NY

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Mr Anderson wrote:
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id gladly have an adult discussion with you mr dirucci.
if you were capable of such a thing!!
I am but unfortunately you're not.

You're a dope!

P.S. Do you see that key that says "shift"? Try it!
Adult Contemporary

Santa Cruz, CA

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Dec 9, 2012
 

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Don't worry, be happy.
HandPicked

San Dimas, CA

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Republican-Hard core, old facets are in a hateful mood.
New Facets

Santa Cruz, CA

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HandPicked wrote:
Republican-Hard core, old facets are in a hateful mood.
Don't Worry, Be Happy.
bebe

Anaheim, CA

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#13693
Dec 9, 2012
 
yes don't smoke it but legalize marijuana i smoke cig's and other smoke weed let's not judge after all we all do something to relax us i play bingo...lol other what to smoke a joint but must be over 21 and let them pay taxes...............A mother who has two son's that smoke but not in front of children they are family man and one is sick it help's him to relax the other just smokes because he say it helps him to clam down and he doesn't yell or fight so go head
MveOn

San Dimas, CA

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So what are you waiting for?

Get a move on!
Mr Anderson

Anderson, CA

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#13696
Dec 10, 2012
 
Mike DiRucci wrote:
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I am but unfortunately you're not.
You're a dope!
P.S. Do you see that key that says "shift"? Try it!
all the rethugs accomplished was getting their clocks cleaned by going after clinton...

now look where they are??

they JUST got their clocks cleaned again, after trying to make Barack Obama a "one term president".

and a democrat would be stoked....

but you are a rethug through and through.

so you are mad....boohoo

time to pony up fat frankie!

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#13697
Dec 10, 2012
 
Mr Anderson wrote:
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they JUST got their clocks cleaned again, after trying to make Barack Obama a "one term president".
Clocks cleaned?

He won by less than 5 million votes- less than 4%. He only carried 2 more states than the GOP.

Stop acting like it was a Reagan victory.
Mr Anderson

Anderson, CA

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#13698
Dec 10, 2012
 
akpilot wrote:
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Clocks cleaned?
He won by less than 5 million votes- less than 4%. He only carried 2 more states than the GOP.
Stop acting like it was a Reagan victory.
Ok it wasnt quite reaganesque??

BUT, Obama has pasted his opponents by a combined 315 electoral votes??

bush just eeeked out two victories!

Bush is the best present you guys could have sent, other than the tea party... thank you.

next election will be even more fun, because you guys area likely to finnaly nominate someone REALLY conservative.

ensuring the democrats 8 more years.....

from what i see??

you guys arnt going to have the whitehouse back, for a LONG LONG F-in time!

good riddance!!
Mr Anderson

Anderson, CA

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#13699
Dec 10, 2012
 
Monday night football was, however, quite a reaganesque like victory for brady and the pats!!

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#13701
Dec 10, 2012
 
Mr Anderson wrote:
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Ok it wasnt quite reaganesque??
BUT, Obama has pasted his opponents by a combined 315 electoral votes??
Electoral votes do not show an accurate representation of the nation, you are fooling yourself if you are trying to use that number as a "mandate"
Mr Anderson wrote:
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you guys arnt going to have the whitehouse back, for a LONG LONG F-in time!
good riddance!!
Who are these "you guys" you speak of?

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

Since: Sep 12

Canarsie, NY

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Dec 11, 2012
 
Mr Anderson wrote:
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all the rethugs accomplished was getting their clocks cleaned by going after clinton...
now look where they are??
they JUST got their clocks cleaned again, after trying to make Barack Obama a "one term president".
and a democrat would be stoked....
but you are a rethug through and through.
so you are mad....boohoo
time to pony up fat frankie!
Sore winners are real jackasses! What a loser.

Romney lost, Obama won fair and square. About time you got over it Fruitloops! Now it's time for all that Yes We Can!(But didn't and won't).

Too funny!

“Formerly Frankie Rizzo”

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Canarsie, NY

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#13705
Dec 11, 2012
 
akpilot wrote:
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Electoral votes do not show an accurate representation of the nation, you are fooling yourself if you are trying to use that number as a "mandate"
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Who are these "you guys" you speak of?
He's not sure. He even includes democrats like me in "you guys" when he gets all stupid-mad and silly like that.

He's a real dope!
Mr Anderson

Anderson, CA

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#13706
Dec 11, 2012
 
Mike DiRucci wrote:
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He's not sure. He even includes democrats like me in "you guys" when he gets all stupid-mad and silly like that.
He's a real dope!
immigration democrat?

you are no democrat.....youve not voted for the party in years.

you can be an indy, but your no dem.
Mr Anderson

Anderson, CA

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#13707
Dec 11, 2012
 
akpilot wrote:
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Electoral votes do not show an accurate representation of the nation, you are fooling yourself if you are trying to use that number as a "mandate"
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Who are these "you guys" you speak of?
you guys......are the rethugs....

tea party fools...who hate the rethuglican party(because they are too left wing), but vote for them anyways....

who can take you seriously?

i never said there was a " popular vote mandate"

just an electoral mandate.

which in pollitics, means everything.

your party( i use that term loosly) needs to break through in the blue collar rust belt.....you got your clocks cleaned there on the ground, and by the left wing as well.

enjoy political irrelevancy.
Mr Anderson

Anderson, CA

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#13708
Dec 11, 2012
 
arnold called himself a rethug, but was he??

many of you from the right, are fond of refering to him as a "rino"

that would make you, mikey deducci, a DINO....which is rather appropriate, dont you think?

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